Received NIP, but photo is of different car?

Received NIP, but photo is of different car?

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vonhosen

40,249 posts

218 months

Sunday 24th June 2007
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s2art said:
vonhosen said:
bluepolarbear said:
odyssey2200 said:
No reg in pic
OH dear no evidence
I don't understood why everyone is hung up about the reg number. The photo provides evidence of an offence being committed by a TVR. The stickers on the car "identifies" the RK who in turn is served with a S172 compelling them to name the driver. All of this evidence will be given to the CPS who will decide if it sufficient to prove guilt beyond resonable doubt.

The lack of a Reg is a complete irrelevance.

If you were stopped speeding in a car that had no reg plates on, does that mean you couldn't be proscuted for speeding ?
Reg plates assist in identification, but it is acceptable for identification to be confirmed through other methods.
Problem is there are removable stickers. So there is some doubt about which car it was.
Obviously the identification has to be to the satisfaction of the court. But that's not the point, the point is that the VRM doesn't have to be known at the time.

streaky

19,311 posts

250 months

Sunday 24th June 2007
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bluepolarbear said:
odyssey2200 said:
No reg in pic
OH dear no evidence
I don't understood why everyone is hung up about the reg number. The photo provides evidence of an offence being committed by a TVR. The stickers on the car "identifies" the RK who in turn is served with a S172 compelling them to name the driver. All of this evidence will be given to the CPS who will decide if it sufficient to prove guilt beyond resonable doubt.

The lack of a Reg is a complete irrelevance.
The stickers on the car identify the stickers, nothing more, not the car nor the RK. The RK (or more particularly, the known driver) was (incorrectly) identified by a third-party. The OP (as the RK) should return the S172 stating that as the photograph is not of their vehicle they are unable to identify the driver - Streaky

megy

2,429 posts

215 months

Sunday 24th June 2007
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streaky said:
bluepolarbear said:
odyssey2200 said:
No reg in pic
OH dear no evidence
I don't understood why everyone is hung up about the reg number. The photo provides evidence of an offence being committed by a TVR. The stickers on the car "identifies" the RK who in turn is served with a S172 compelling them to name the driver. All of this evidence will be given to the CPS who will decide if it sufficient to prove guilt beyond resonable doubt.

The lack of a Reg is a complete irrelevance.
The stickers on the car identify the stickers, nothing more, not the car nor the RK. The RK (or more particularly, the known driver) was (incorrectly) identified by a third-party. The OP (as the RK) should return the S172 stating that as the photograph is not of their vehicle they are unable to identify the driver - Streaky
The RK of the stickered TVR in the scamera photos(who is also identifyable in the photos) informed the police that the only TVR on his site was the one belonging to the OP, even though the RKs TVR with the stickers as idntified on the scamera photos are also on his site. How can RK/driver of a TVR with stickers on his car forget that he has it and inform the police that the only one belonged to the OP unless he is trying to dodge the NIP himself and divert the hassle from himself.

streaky

19,311 posts

250 months

Sunday 24th June 2007
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megy said:
streaky said:
bluepolarbear said:
odyssey2200 said:
No reg in pic
OH dear no evidence
I don't understood why everyone is hung up about the reg number. The photo provides evidence of an offence being committed by a TVR. The stickers on the car "identifies" the RK who in turn is served with a S172 compelling them to name the driver. All of this evidence will be given to the CPS who will decide if it sufficient to prove guilt beyond resonable doubt.

The lack of a Reg is a complete irrelevance.
The stickers on the car identify the stickers, nothing more, not the car nor the RK. The RK (or more particularly, the known driver) was (incorrectly) identified by a third-party. The OP (as the RK) should return the S172 stating that as the photograph is not of their vehicle they are unable to identify the driver - Streaky
The RK of the stickered TVR in the scamera photos(who is also identifyable in the photos) informed the police that the only TVR on his site was the one belonging to the OP, even though the RKs TVR with the stickers as idntified on the scamera photos are also on his site. How can RK/driver of a TVR with stickers on his car forget that he has it and inform the police that the only one belonged to the OP unless he is trying to dodge the NIP himself and divert the hassle from himself.
And your point is? - Streaky

ShockAli

9 posts

203 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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What a shocking case!

I have been pointed in the direction of this thread by another member, so thanks for that!

I have no time for the Candy Run & Gary whatsoever. I'm sorry that another person has had a bad experience with him.

Best of luck with getting the (very confusing) situation sorted.

Ali x

superlightr

12,856 posts

264 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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Has anyone asked this Gary for his side of the story?

davido140

9,614 posts

227 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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superlightr said:
Has anyone asked this Gary for his side of the story?
might be a good idea, i dont know him and have never met him. Its probaly best he gets to defend himself though, he is clearly running business(es) that may take a direct hit from this bad publicity. It really could be a case of "chinese whispers" between BiB/CandyRun/BiB and finally back to our original poster. He may or may not have "fingered" the OP. Innocent until proven guilty and all that!


Hughesie II

12,573 posts

283 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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davido140 said:
superlightr said:
Has anyone asked this Gary for his side of the story?
might be a good idea, i dont know him and have never met him. Its probaly best he gets to defend himself though, he is clearly running business(es) that may take a direct hit from this bad publicity. It really could be a case of "chinese whispers" between BiB/CandyRun/BiB and finally back to our original poster. He may or may not have "fingered" the OP. Innocent until proven guilty and all that!
He's reading the thread, quite closely i understand, wavey Hi Gary - nothing to say for yourself ??


SplatSpeed

7,490 posts

252 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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the TVR comunity seems very bitchy

or is it just me ????

this after the porsche TVR thread

getmecoat

UKbob

16,277 posts

266 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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Hughesie II said:
He's reading the thread, quite closely i understand, wavey Hi Gary - nothing to say for yourself ??
There may be a valid reason he hasnt said/ doesnt want to say anything just yet. Id give it time.

Flintstone

8,644 posts

248 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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SplatSpeed said:
the TVR comunity seems very bitchy

or is it just me ????

this after the porsche TVR thread

getmecoat
I think they're quite capable of spotting a troll though.

Marki

15,763 posts

271 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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Hughesie II said:
davido140 said:
superlightr said:
Has anyone asked this Gary for his side of the story?
might be a good idea, i dont know him and have never met him. Its probaly best he gets to defend himself though, he is clearly running business(es) that may take a direct hit from this bad publicity. It really could be a case of "chinese whispers" between BiB/CandyRun/BiB and finally back to our original poster. He may or may not have "fingered" the OP. Innocent until proven guilty and all that!
He's reading the thread, quite closely i understand, wavey Hi Gary - nothing to say for yourself ??
Not much he can say apart from SORRY what a asshole

s2art

18,937 posts

254 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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Marki said:
Hughesie II said:
davido140 said:
superlightr said:
Has anyone asked this Gary for his side of the story?
might be a good idea, i dont know him and have never met him. Its probaly best he gets to defend himself though, he is clearly running business(es) that may take a direct hit from this bad publicity. It really could be a case of "chinese whispers" between BiB/CandyRun/BiB and finally back to our original poster. He may or may not have "fingered" the OP. Innocent until proven guilty and all that!
He's reading the thread, quite closely i understand, wavey Hi Gary - nothing to say for yourself ??
Not much he can say apart from SORRY what a asshole
Probably. But there is enough doubt/lack of info to reserve judgement for the moment.

Eliminator

762 posts

256 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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However....

s172 notice issued to the RK within 14 days.
Police / Scamarati do not know the RK so can't issue
They ask (some questions, we don't know what)as a result of which MOP identifies "A" as "possibly" the owner
s172 sent to owner
Owner shows "not his car"

Police / Scamarati now back to square 1
14 days have elapsed - now out of time to issue nip to RK

Marki

15,763 posts

271 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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s2art said:
Marki said:
Hughesie II said:
davido140 said:
superlightr said:
Has anyone asked this Gary for his side of the story?
might be a good idea, i dont know him and have never met him. Its probaly best he gets to defend himself though,
He's reading the thread, quite closely i understand, wavey Hi Gary - nothing to say for yourself ??
Not much he can say apart from SORRY what a asshole
Probably. But there is enough doubt/lack of info to reserve judgement for the moment.
Sure but if it is reading this thred but has no comment to make i can only see that as an admission of guilt , and after all how the hell did they get the OP reg number - car details with out this slime bags assistance

s2art

18,937 posts

254 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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Marki said:
s2art said:
Marki said:
Hughesie II said:
davido140 said:
superlightr said:
Has anyone asked this Gary for his side of the story?
might be a good idea, i dont know him and have never met him. Its probaly best he gets to defend himself though,
He's reading the thread, quite closely i understand, wavey Hi Gary - nothing to say for yourself ??
Not much he can say apart from SORRY what a asshole
Probably. But there is enough doubt/lack of info to reserve judgement for the moment.
Sure but if it is reading this thred but has no comment to make i can only see that as an admission of guilt , and after all how the hell did they get the OP reg number - car details with out this slime bags assistance
Dunno about the rest, but if the plod are after him for speeding or PCJ then keeping schtum is probably sensible.

Edited by s2art on Tuesday 26th June 16:56

superlightr

12,856 posts

264 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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walls have ears
careless talk costs lives
the hun is in the bun


3/4 the investigation is done for the police on here, just need a confession and its job done bish abng wallop and its a pervert course of justice hall of fame.

So staying stum is probably sensible.

Marki

15,763 posts

271 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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s2art said:
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Dunno about the rest, but if the plod are after him for speeding or PCJ then keeping schtum is probably sensible.
Pity he did not do that in the first place

SplatSpeed

7,490 posts

252 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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an important point marki glad you made it twice

lord summerisle

8,138 posts

226 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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SplatSpeed said:
an important point marki glad you made it twice
3 times wink