Power Supply Units to GATSO cameras - update

Power Supply Units to GATSO cameras - update

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fluffnik

20,156 posts

228 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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grumpy geezer said:
So says a bloke from NPL. He may as well be the bloke down the pub and most probably is. On what authority and with what evidence? Not enough for a court to take note of it seems.
So; we cease to trust the court and learn to walk like Egyptians...


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oldsoak

5,618 posts

203 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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fluffnik said:
grumpy geezer said:
So says a bloke from NPL. He may as well be the bloke down the pub and most probably is. On what authority and with what evidence? Not enough for a court to take note of it seems.
So; we cease to trust the court and learn to walk like Egyptians...


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anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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I have been avidly scanning the schedules on Dave Deja Gold Retro Sky Plus Shopping for the documentary that is going to blow a hole in the Evil Empire, but I seem to have missed it.

pitmansboots

1,372 posts

188 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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Nobody that deals in these matters has ever heard of him or his case. Who have you been dealing with ramtec?

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

197 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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pitmansboots said:
Nobody that deals in these matters has ever heard of him or his case. Who have you been dealing with ramtec?
Have you got your membership of the Engineering Council sorted out yet?rolleyes

I know at the Montgomery hearing you explained to the judge it was an oversight - but surely in later cases you then knew that your membership had lapsed? It's about time you got your own story sorted out before you go implying ramtec is guilty of deception!laugh

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Mill Wheel said:
I know ....
I'm confused about Puff the dragon Pitmansboots and grumpygeezer

F i F

44,140 posts

252 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Mill Wheel said:
pitmansboots said:
Nobody that deals in these matters has ever heard of him or his case. Who have you been dealing with ramtec?
Have you got your membership of the Engineering Council sorted out yet?rolleyes

I know at the Montgomery hearing you explained to the judge it was an oversight - but surely in later cases you then knew that your membership had lapsed? It's about time you got your own story sorted out before you go implying ramtec is guilty of deception!laugh
:Basil Brush:
Boom boom!! nice one Mr Derek!!!!
rofl

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

197 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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saaby93 said:
Mill Wheel said:
I know ....
I'm confused about Puff the dragon Pitmansboots and grumpygeezer
In what way are you confused...?
About why the same poster would have need to log in with different identities?confused

Or is it whether Puff the tragic/Pitsmansboots et al are paid up members of the Engineering Council or not?

In Carlisle when challenged, the explanation was that the subs somehow had not been paid... for FOUR years!
But somehow, despite now knowing that his membership had lapsed - for whatever excuse, a further court case saw the claim of membership repeated.
FINALLY there was an admission to the court that the claim of membership was in fact a mistake, and it HAD lapsed.judge

I'm beginning to think that the Engineering Council are embarrassed by his antics and lies, and don't actually want him back!nono

streaky

19,311 posts

250 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Mill Wheel said:
saaby93 said:
Mill Wheel said:
I know ....
I'm confused about Puff the dragon Pitmansboots and grumpygeezer
In what way are you confused...?
About why the same poster would have need to log in with different identities?confused

Or is it whether Puff the tragic/Pitsmansboots et al are paid up members of the Engineering Council or not?

In Carlisle when challenged, the explanation was that the subs somehow had not been paid... for FOUR years!
But somehow, despite now knowing that his membership had lapsed - for whatever excuse, a further court case saw the claim of membership repeated.
FINALLY there was an admission to the court that the claim of membership was in fact a mistake, and it HAD lapsed.judge

I'm beginning to think that the Engineering Council are embarrassed by his antics and lies, and don't actually want him back!nono
Might is not be that the Engineering Council would require the lapsed member [there are a couple of puns there, but I'm not going to draw attention to them wink] to demonstrate their competence and adherence to the Code of Conduct?

Streaky

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

197 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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streaky said:
Might is not be that the Engineering Council would require the lapsed member [there are a couple of puns there, but I'm not going to draw attention to them wink] to demonstrate their competence and adherence to the Code of Conduct?

Streaky
Well, I'd have thought lying about your credentials isn't a great way to endear ones self to such a body!
We shall have to wait and see!

Anyone who tries to base his expert witness testimony on a clump of grass shown in a video nearly two years after an alleged offence is clutching at straws, desperate to prove himself right!

Flute

48 posts

195 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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I think the vital point missed here is that it matters not who does your report providing they are qualified to comment but on what basis the report is put together. Established case law says that the report must not be a general criticism of cameras rather it must be specific to the device in question. If you had requested access to the camera to allow that report to be prepared to make it relate to the one that caught you you may have stood a chance in arguing your case. You cannot go behind established case law no matter how much you or your experts think they may know about electrical equipment. Neither can you go into court as your own expert as well may have been pointed out to you. An expert has an independent duty to the court and that can never be fulfilled by someone defending their case. The CPS may be over worked but they know the law and they saw right through this smoke and mirror rubbish of yours. I suspect if you wrote to them as much as you've written on here they would have told you this from the start. I suspect you just didn't want to risk loosing face in taking this to Appeal. Good job you didn't 'cos I'm sure you'd have been fined a good deal more than the £60 you were. If you want to play with the law just make sure you take your time to read up on established case law, it's all in there. Conspiracy? Don't make me laugh! They were just better at it than you were.....

14-7

6,233 posts

192 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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^^

I can't be bothered reading through it all again.

Is this case still ongoing?

What is the accused questioning now?


ramtec

Original Poster:

214 posts

202 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Great to see the lengths to which one individual will go (with their multiple identities) just to diss this case with a few pages of garbage, so as to make it an ever more difficult read. The defence expert's evidence had already been allowed by the court. End of.

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

197 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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It's all water off a ducks back to Puff the Tragic/Pitsmansboots - he is used to being insulted.

However, he won't accept that somebody from the National Physics Laboratory knows more about calibration than him - after all the NPL works in the REAL world where calibration tools need to be calibrated and recorded as well as the equipment on test, not the fairyland calibration regime created by the Home Office for the SCPs to live in!

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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That's interesting, but the Judge didn't accept the evidence as a basis for an acquittal, and the issue raised by the expert hasn't been tested in a higher court. How's the documentary going?

ramtec

Original Poster:

214 posts

202 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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In the interests of openness and transparency, I wonder if Puff / Boots would care to declare his interest in this case?

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

197 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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ramtec said:
In the interests of openness and transparency, I wonder if Puff / Boots would care to declare his interest in this case?
laughlaugh
We should have a "tail between the legs" smiley for Puff / Boots!

He usually keeps well clear after invitations like that - or signs up with a new user ID!

F i F

44,140 posts

252 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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Mill Wheel said:
ramtec said:
In the interests of openness and transparency, I wonder if Puff / Boots would care to declare his interest in this case?
laughlaugh
We should have a "tail between the legs" smiley for Puff / Boots!

He usually keeps well clear after invitations like that - or signs up with a new user ID!
I wonder if his next login will be Dick Whittington?

Dick Whittington? Puff in Boots?

groan

getmecoat

However it's interesting that he goes to enough trouble to cover his IP tracks

streaky

19,311 posts

250 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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F i F said:
Mill Wheel said:
ramtec said:
In the interests of openness and transparency, I wonder if Puff / Boots would care to declare his interest in this case?
laughlaugh
We should have a "tail between the legs" smiley for Puff / Boots!

He usually keeps well clear after invitations like that - or signs up with a new user ID!
I wonder if his next login will be Dick Whittington?

Dick Whittington? Puff in Boots?

groan

getmecoat
That's no way to speak of a principal boy ... at least it's not a PC way. wink

Streaky

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

197 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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streaky said:
F i F said:
Mill Wheel said:
ramtec said:
In the interests of openness and transparency, I wonder if Puff / Boots would care to declare his interest in this case?
laughlaugh
We should have a "tail between the legs" smiley for Puff / Boots!

He usually keeps well clear after invitations like that - or signs up with a new user ID!
I wonder if his next login will be Dick Whittington?

Dick Whittington? Puff in Boots?

groan

getmecoat
That's no way to speak of a principal boy ... at least it's not a PC way. wink

Streaky
Isn't the principle boy a girl?idea

Well a member of the Cumbria Safety Camera Partnership once said that we had never seen Steve Callaghan in a dress... implying that HE had!
And him a former Lieutenant in the Navy... it's ALL falling into place!hippy

He used to run a company called PLANE SAILING - and according to his now defunct LINKEDIN profile it had a turnover of over a million pounds.
They must have been Lebanese pounds or something, because the registered accounts show that the turnover was nowhere NEAR £1 million, and there is a CCJ against him!eek

I had one of those from when my biggest customer went into receivership owing me a good deal of money - and one of my suppliers reneged on a payment plan, and took me to court.
But at least I paid it off, and am still trading!

Sorry ramtec - I got carried away dissing the cretin who cast doubt on the validity of your case despite his own obvious shortcomings!! Blame Streaky for leading me astray! wink