A message to PH from your PH BiB
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Battenburg Bob said:
Although he deserved a reply, after all, he does pay my wages 
Please dont say that Bob, I hear it enough every day 
I did draw the line the other day when someone was reporting the theft of their giro and said the same thing.......I did have to correct them and point out who was paying for who?
sidaorb said:
Battenburg Bob said:
Although he deserved a reply, after all, he does pay my wages
Please dont say that Bob, I hear it enough every day I did draw the line the other day when someone was reporting the theft of their giro and said the same thing.......I did have to correct them and point out who was paying for who?
King of Ding Joined PH on April 1st. He's now 9 days too late.
As the original poster comments, PH and any forum with constructive police officers comments should count themselves lucky. I am increasingly aware of colleagues falling foul of PSD's across the land for replies made in Internet Forums. If you add up the risk of a dent in your career, and the stress of being investigated, and the fact that if you do bother to post advice or comment you often only get grief for it anyway, it's very easy to ask the question "Is it worth it?" and get the answer "No".
PH is frequently on a knife's edge in this respect. There are many time when a thread has gone to the dogs and I simply pass it by. I'm not in the business of trying to change peoples opinions, which they are fully entitled to. I save my time for those who might read what I have to type and perhaps benefit from it.
As the original poster comments, PH and any forum with constructive police officers comments should count themselves lucky. I am increasingly aware of colleagues falling foul of PSD's across the land for replies made in Internet Forums. If you add up the risk of a dent in your career, and the stress of being investigated, and the fact that if you do bother to post advice or comment you often only get grief for it anyway, it's very easy to ask the question "Is it worth it?" and get the answer "No".
PH is frequently on a knife's edge in this respect. There are many time when a thread has gone to the dogs and I simply pass it by. I'm not in the business of trying to change peoples opinions, which they are fully entitled to. I save my time for those who might read what I have to type and perhaps benefit from it.
On the bright side I have nothing but praise fo the trafpol they have always been fair and reasonable with me and i have never recieved a ticket as i pay attention and slow down when i see em on the motorway. Although admit i have had one or two pretty close calls the officer who joined the m25 off a sliproad behind me as i shot past at well over the limit was kinda funny to this day i bet he was shocked to see my brakes come on exactly as he pulled on to come after me as wouldnt have been expecting me to be checking sliproad behind sat on my bumper for about 5-10 miles moving with me i go left he goes left he was truly desperate for me to step over the limit by mistake.
I actually felt slghtly guilty that he wasnt able to give me a ticket.
Im a truly sick person.
I actually felt slghtly guilty that he wasnt able to give me a ticket.
Im a truly sick person.
Edited by jimmyb on Sunday 13th April 17:18
King of Dings, You seem to have a lot to say, but what are you really adding?
We need a Police force in the same way that we need an army and some form of Government (preferably a different form to present one!) As far as I can see, our Police force are mostly fair and just, and bear the responsibility and care that they carry in a manner fitting to their role. Stop having a go at those who enforce our legal system. If you feel that life is unjust, or unfair then vote properly, emigrate, etc. Dont take it out on the guys who defend your right to sleep soundly at night. Sorry for the rant, not a BiB, just believe that those that choose such a job, and have a social concience deserve our respect and support.
We need a Police force in the same way that we need an army and some form of Government (preferably a different form to present one!) As far as I can see, our Police force are mostly fair and just, and bear the responsibility and care that they carry in a manner fitting to their role. Stop having a go at those who enforce our legal system. If you feel that life is unjust, or unfair then vote properly, emigrate, etc. Dont take it out on the guys who defend your right to sleep soundly at night. Sorry for the rant, not a BiB, just believe that those that choose such a job, and have a social concience deserve our respect and support.
Ordinary Bloke said:
DaveV6 said:
My thanks to ALL the BiB who post on here, your thoughts, knowledge and experiences make a valued contribution to PH.
Now we just need to get rid of the stupid people and normality will resume
Why not name them ? (: @}Now we just need to get rid of the stupid people and normality will resume
fmulks said:
King of Dings, You seem to have a lot to say, but what are you really adding?
We need a Police force in the same way that we need an army and some form of Government (preferably a different form to present one!) As far as I can see, our Police force are mostly fair and just, and bear the responsibility and care that they carry in a manner fitting to their role. Stop having a go at those who enforce our legal system. If you feel that life is unjust, or unfair then vote properly, emigrate, etc. Dont take it out on the guys who defend your right to sleep soundly at night. Sorry for the rant, not a BiB, just believe that those that choose such a job, and have a social concience deserve our respect and support.
Very well said! (biased opinion I know We need a Police force in the same way that we need an army and some form of Government (preferably a different form to present one!) As far as I can see, our Police force are mostly fair and just, and bear the responsibility and care that they carry in a manner fitting to their role. Stop having a go at those who enforce our legal system. If you feel that life is unjust, or unfair then vote properly, emigrate, etc. Dont take it out on the guys who defend your right to sleep soundly at night. Sorry for the rant, not a BiB, just believe that those that choose such a job, and have a social concience deserve our respect and support.
)barney123 said:
, Brilliant, , This is a intresting thred, I certanly would not want to do your job chaps, Trouble is the motorist seems now to be public enmeny No1, I know this is not your fault, I guess your given directives and targets to meet. Trouble is as some other posters have said on here, It comes down to how the Law, rules are interpreted? With covert cameras, Gatsos, cameras hiden in horse boxes etc the motorist is an easy target for revenue! Most of us on here work hard, have more than one mode of transport, have them Road taxed, insured, mot'd ect and get cheesed off if suddenly you think youve been caught by a hidden scamera or unmarked car. Just my imput
fatboy18 said:
barney123 said:
, Brilliant, , This is a intresting thred, I certanly would not want to do your job chaps, Trouble is the motorist seems now to be public enmeny No1, I know this is not your fault, I guess your given directives and targets to meet. Trouble is as some other posters have said on here, It comes down to how the Law, rules are interpreted? With covert cameras, Gatsos, cameras hiden in horse boxes etc the motorist is an easy target for revenue! Most of us on here work hard, have more than one mode of transport, have them Road taxed, insured, mot'd ect and get cheesed off if suddenly you think youve been caught by a hidden scamera or unmarked car. Just my imput
So would I be.
Difference is, that would not turn me against the whole of the police force, 99.9% of whom have nothing to do with cameras.
Chrispy Porker said:
fatboy18 said:
barney123 said:
, Brilliant, , This is a intresting thred, I certanly would not want to do your job chaps, Trouble is the motorist seems now to be public enmeny No1, I know this is not your fault, I guess your given directives and targets to meet. Trouble is as some other posters have said on here, It comes down to how the Law, rules are interpreted? With covert cameras, Gatsos, cameras hiden in horse boxes etc the motorist is an easy target for revenue! Most of us on here work hard, have more than one mode of transport, have them Road taxed, insured, mot'd ect and get cheesed off if suddenly you think youve been caught by a hidden scamera or unmarked car. Just my imput
So would I be.
Difference is, that would not turn me against the whole of the police force, 99.9% of whom have nothing to do with cameras.
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Edited by fatboy18 on Thursday 26th June 21:10
Just my view based upon my experience ok before anyone blasts me.
I'm sure that there are some decent officers at all levels but I haven't met any other than as described below. I have, however, met more than one instance of directives to officers to achieve higher targets for speeding revenue and reduced limits - that doesn't sound like good news!
My sole experiences are, firstly a pull in by unmarked car and a tongue lashing about my undertaking along a congested section of road (me very contrite) but which thinking about it afterwards I hadn't actually been along that road referred to.
Secondly staring at death as oncoming police car overtakes his line of vehicles on a bend at a combined closing speed of about 130mph - not having seen me going the opposite way and has to force his way into his line of traffic with clouds of smoke and some end to end shunting... that really shook me.
Thirdly I was slowing for a pedestrian on a black/white crossing and was overtaken on the crossing by a marked car (no blues and two's) dangerous or what.
Lastly I had property stolen and telephoned to report it. The officer asked masses of questions including my age, DOB, what was my job, where I worked, how far I travelled to work, my income band, my marital status and family members, licence details, car registration and type plus other questions I can't now remember but only just stopping short of fingerprints and mugshot. I felt like the criminal! Eventually I was asked what had been stolen and I asked when someone would be round to check the scene/fingerprints etc only to be told that nothing would be done and that I was insured! No co-operation there so I now know what to do in future.
In conclusion, my experiences haven't been good - but maybe they might have been better at the hands of those BiB's who post on here. I would certainly urge BiB's to continue posting, particularly if they have some useful/helpful information/advice for all us PH'ers. Is there just a hint of empathy for us I wonder?
Yours, awaiting to be amazed.
I'm sure that there are some decent officers at all levels but I haven't met any other than as described below. I have, however, met more than one instance of directives to officers to achieve higher targets for speeding revenue and reduced limits - that doesn't sound like good news!
My sole experiences are, firstly a pull in by unmarked car and a tongue lashing about my undertaking along a congested section of road (me very contrite) but which thinking about it afterwards I hadn't actually been along that road referred to.
Secondly staring at death as oncoming police car overtakes his line of vehicles on a bend at a combined closing speed of about 130mph - not having seen me going the opposite way and has to force his way into his line of traffic with clouds of smoke and some end to end shunting... that really shook me.
Thirdly I was slowing for a pedestrian on a black/white crossing and was overtaken on the crossing by a marked car (no blues and two's) dangerous or what.
Lastly I had property stolen and telephoned to report it. The officer asked masses of questions including my age, DOB, what was my job, where I worked, how far I travelled to work, my income band, my marital status and family members, licence details, car registration and type plus other questions I can't now remember but only just stopping short of fingerprints and mugshot. I felt like the criminal! Eventually I was asked what had been stolen and I asked when someone would be round to check the scene/fingerprints etc only to be told that nothing would be done and that I was insured! No co-operation there so I now know what to do in future.
In conclusion, my experiences haven't been good - but maybe they might have been better at the hands of those BiB's who post on here. I would certainly urge BiB's to continue posting, particularly if they have some useful/helpful information/advice for all us PH'ers. Is there just a hint of empathy for us I wonder?
Yours, awaiting to be amazed.
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