Mobile phone use.

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forza whites

2,555 posts

196 months

Sunday 27th April 2008
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TheCarpetCleaner said:
forza whites said:
At the end of the day dont use the phone! I was unfortunate to see an accident on the A580 caused
by a Van driver on his phone...with dire consequences.
So you saw the entire accident from start to finish, and somehow you were able to determine that it was 100% caused by the fact he was on his phone?
No not at all! At the point of the Van driver 'turning into' the victim I didnt know jack...I gave my details as a witness etc, but wasn't needed. The guy driving the van was on his phone at the precise time he 'turned into' the other vehicle well thats what he convicted off and that what was published etc I think the van driver had the balls to admit it in court....All not very nice.

Edited by forza whites on Sunday 27th April 12:50

g_attrill

7,710 posts

247 months

Sunday 27th April 2008
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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/20...

article said:
Tory uses car phone loophole to beat charge
Apr 26 2008 By Maggie Barry

No Evidence He Used His Mobile

A TORY MSP yesterday escaped prosecution for using his mobile phone while driving after he argued there was no evidence he was using it.

Ted Brocklebank, an ex-lover of former newsreader Selina Scott, was spotted by police holding the steering wheel of his Range Rover in one hand and his mobile phone in the other.

PC Claire Galloway yesterday told a court: "The driver had his right hand on the steering wheel and his left was holding a mobile phone.

"We could clearly see him looking down at his phone."

Her colleague, PC Andrew Walls, also gave evidence that he saw Brocklebank holding a mobile in his left hand, with "his head tilted to the left".

The officers pulled Brockle-bank over and charged him.

But at Cupar District Court, his solicitor argued there was no evidence the device had been used to "send or receive communications".

James Laverty said: "The Crown has failed to show the item was in working order and without that, we are left in the situation that this offence has not been proved."

The MSP, who represents mid-Scotland and Fife, was stopped on the A919 at Guard bridge, near St Andrews, on May 7, last year.

Justice of the Peace Harry Terrell said: "We are in uncharted waters legally. I have no option but to fall back on my own experience of the word 'using'.

"There was no evidence presented of the word 'using' being used in the normal sense of the word and, therefore, I conclude there is no case to answer."

Brocklebank refused to comment as he left court.

But Neil Greig, of the IAM Motoring Trust, said: "The fact this is an MSP, who has been cleared on a technicality, has set a very bad example."

simonrockman

6,869 posts

256 months

Sunday 27th April 2008
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If the phone was in the door pocket and not touched she has done nothing wrong.


Tangentally I'm amazed at the number of cabs I get into that don't have car kits. Here is someone who spends all of his working day in a car and still won't shell out the amount he spends on two tankfulls of fuel for a top of the line car kit. It's not just about being legal and/or safe, it's a real pain using a handheldand driving.

Simon

Vipers

32,913 posts

229 months

Sunday 27th April 2008
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thinfourth2 said:
Vipers said:
forza whites said:
At the end of the day dont use the phone!
Ditto ditto


smile
No more like

At end of the day don't put your hands near your head while driving
That as well ...... god forbid a sneeze comes on when your driving




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