Police cars exempt from Road Tax?
Discussion
I might throw a spanner in the works here, on the ambulance front we have a disc with "nil" on the fee part but when I queried it with the workshop foreman he said that we do pay tax but pay it centrally and as such the post office that provides the disc has to put "nil" on the disc because they didn't actually get the cash over the counter for the disc in question, not sure on the accuracy of this now as we use leased vehicles but I have a feeling the lease companies pay for them but same situation as above might operate?
PS. We used to have a crown exemption disc as well but that went a while ago.
Gary
PS. We used to have a crown exemption disc as well but that went a while ago.
Gary
They may be exempt but it's still a requirement to display the disc! But whatever, keep glossing over that fact whilst trying to defend your police brethren. When i phoned the police station to enquire, their attitutde went from polite to talking to me like complete s
t when i informed them this car wasn't displaying their disc. Is it any wonder there's so little respect for the police when they don't follow the rules they're trying to enforce?
As i said, had it been joe public failing to display a disc in his exempt vehicle the police would jump down his throat. I'm sure someone here suffered something like this with their vehicle.
t when i informed them this car wasn't displaying their disc. Is it any wonder there's so little respect for the police when they don't follow the rules they're trying to enforce?As i said, had it been joe public failing to display a disc in his exempt vehicle the police would jump down his throat. I'm sure someone here suffered something like this with their vehicle.
Oakey said:
They may be exempt but it's still a requirement to display the disc! But whatever, keep glossing over that fact whilst trying to defend your police brethren. When i phoned the police station to enquire, their attitutde went from polite to talking to me like complete st when i informed them this car wasn't displaying their disc. Is it any wonder there's so little respect for the police when they don't follow the rules they're trying to enforce?
As i said, had it been joe public failing to display a disc in his exempt vehicle the police would jump down his throat. I'm sure someone here suffered something like this with their vehicle.
But it couldn't possibly be the manner of the (slightly anal) questioning could it?t when i informed them this car wasn't displaying their disc. Is it any wonder there's so little respect for the police when they don't follow the rules they're trying to enforce?As i said, had it been joe public failing to display a disc in his exempt vehicle the police would jump down his throat. I'm sure someone here suffered something like this with their vehicle.
At the end of the day, BIB cars pay a NIL rate, as they are Crown Vehicles or some such. The way my workshops explained it was that "there is no requirement to display a tax disc, but they still do so that silly questions and comments about hypocracy are avoided".
Would you rather that we all paid extra council tax to cover Vehicle Excise Duty for emergency vehicles? Of course you wouldn't, there'd be uproar about that, especially if many of the cars came under a £400/pa tax band ;-). A valid point no?
Oakey said:
When i phoned the police station to enquire, their attitutde went from polite to talking to me like complete st when i informed them this car wasn't displaying their disc. .
Maybe they wondered why you were the slightest bit bothered!t when i informed them this car wasn't displaying their disc. .I'm not trying to defend anyone. I've taken vehicles out with no disc before, and I couldn't have cared less. It's for Admin or the garage hand to sort out. If it's a choice between not having a vehicle, having to go out on foot, and therefore being useless more than a mile from the nick, OR taking the vehicle out and answering 999 calls and actually helping people in the local community, I know which I'll choose.
But hey, why let common sense get in the way of a good old moan. You keep making those calls buddy!
parapaul said:
To echo what others have said...
Police/Fire/Amb are exempt from paying VED, but that is all. The law states that a valid tax disc must be displayed and the law applies to everyone. The tax disc in an exempt vehicle simply says 'nil' in the section where the fee should go.
That's kind of the point i've been trying to make, clearly those serving officers here would like to argue the toss why they should be excluded from following the rules whilst they'd be all too eager to 'uphold the law' if it was a member of the public failing to abide by them.Police/Fire/Amb are exempt from paying VED, but that is all. The law states that a valid tax disc must be displayed and the law applies to everyone. The tax disc in an exempt vehicle simply says 'nil' in the section where the fee should go.
Oakey said:
They may be exempt but it's still a requirement to display the disc!
Yes well done, however that was pointed out by myself and others ages ago but carry on saying it if it makes you feel better. Oakey said:
But whatever, keep glossing over that fact whilst trying to defend your police brethren. When i phoned the police station to enquire, their attitutde went from polite to talking to me like complete st when i informed them this car wasn't displaying their disc. Is it any wonder there's so little respect for the police when they don't follow the rules they're trying to enforce?
I'm not defending anyone, I'm just telling you how it is....not my problem if you dont agree. Its no shock that they held little respect for you, I can well imagine how the telephone call would have gone down. If I was driving a vehicle at work with no tax disc and you took time out of your day to point it out to me I dont think I'd pay you much attention....sorry. The lack of respect you think the Police show the public is nothing compared to what comes back in return. You can blame that on whatever you care to think up if you wish. t when i informed them this car wasn't displaying their disc. Is it any wonder there's so little respect for the police when they don't follow the rules they're trying to enforce?Oakey said:
parapaul said:
To echo what others have said...
Police/Fire/Amb are exempt from paying VED, but that is all. The law states that a valid tax disc must be displayed and the law applies to everyone. The tax disc in an exempt vehicle simply says 'nil' in the section where the fee should go.
That's kind of the point i've been trying to make, clearly those serving officers here would like to argue the toss why they should be excluded from following the rules whilst they'd be all too eager to 'uphold the law' if it was a member of the public failing to abide by them.Police/Fire/Amb are exempt from paying VED, but that is all. The law states that a valid tax disc must be displayed and the law applies to everyone. The tax disc in an exempt vehicle simply says 'nil' in the section where the fee should go.
Yes, we would uphold the law if a member of the public didnt display a disc, its what we pay for after all...law enforcement. I pay tax on my private car...it costs me a fortune so you can bet I'll act on an untaxed car if I come across one.
Oakey said:
clearly those serving officers here would like to argue the toss why they should be excluded from following the rules whilst they'd be all too eager to 'uphold the law' if it was a member of the public failing to abide by them.
No-one has posted ANYTHING about reporting people for not displaying a tax disc! How the hell do you know what we'd be "all too eager" to report?! I tell you what......post up your address. All the BiB on this forum can come round, and we might, just might, be able to lift that massive chip off your shoulder. What do you say?
Hollywood Wheels said:
Oakey said:
clearly those serving officers here would like to argue the toss why they should be excluded from following the rules whilst they'd be all too eager to 'uphold the law' if it was a member of the public failing to abide by them.
No-one has posted ANYTHING about reporting people for not displaying a tax disc! How the hell do you know what we'd be "all too eager" to report?! I tell you what......post up your address. All the BiB on this forum can come round, and we might, just might, be able to lift that massive chip off your shoulder. What do you say?
Oakey said:
That's kind of the point i've been trying to make, clearly those serving officers here would like to argue the toss why they should be excluded from following the rules whilst they'd be all too eager to 'uphold the law' if it was a member of the public failing to abide by them.
So if a few cars in the local nick aren't displaying tax discs do you expect them not to use the vehicles?Oakey said:
They may be exempt but it's still a requirement to display the disc! But whatever, keep glossing over that fact whilst trying to defend your police brethren. When i phoned the police station to enquire, their attitutde went from polite to talking to me like complete st when i informed them this car wasn't displaying their disc. Is it any wonder there's so little respect for the police when they don't follow the rules they're trying to enforce?
As i said, had it been joe public failing to display a disc in his exempt vehicle the police would jump down his throat. I'm sure someone here suffered something like this with their vehicle.
You got through to your local nick on the phone?.....I thought it was all central call handling these days.....or do you phone them up regularly?t when i informed them this car wasn't displaying their disc. Is it any wonder there's so little respect for the police when they don't follow the rules they're trying to enforce?As i said, had it been joe public failing to display a disc in his exempt vehicle the police would jump down his throat. I'm sure someone here suffered something like this with their vehicle.
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