Speeding in Southern Ireland

[Sir Bagalot]

jgguinness said:

Hi all, was caught speeding in Southern Ireland

No such Country.

If you mean Republic of Ireland then litle they can do. I have a small collection of tickets, all unpaid. In fact the last one to be caught was my Wife after I had an evening on the Black Bush ) Garda stopped her doing 55 in a 30 zone..... Window open.... asked the normal questions and he established I had been drinking (but was in passenger seat), Wife who was driving was stone cold sober, and we lived in England. He asked if there was any point giving us a ticket as we weren't going to pay it where we.... We just smiled. And he wrote no ticket

Edited by Sir Bagalot on Tuesday 8th September 00:42

[tauzguy]

jgguinness said:

Hi all, was caught speeding in Southern Ireland when on holiday there the other week. Have received the fixed charge offence through the post this morning.

The fine is 80 Euro's if payed within 28 days, and it mentions 2 penalty points also. Can these be added to a UK driving license?

Kind regards
Jonathan

Edited by jgguinness on Wednesday 2nd September 18:39

Jonathan,

Why are you calling our country 'southern Ireland'? Seems like you're becoming a little bit political......

A Speeding Ticket is unfortunate but theres really no need to take out this anger on the country. Take it out on the people who clocked you speeding.

[SVTRick]

Tell them to Go Swing for it.

[Decky_Q]

Edited by jgguinness on Wednesday 2nd September 18:39

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Jonathan,

Why are you calling our country 'southern Ireland'? Seems like you're becoming a little bit political......

A Speeding Ticket is unfortunate but theres really no need to take out this anger on the country. Take it out on the people who clocked you speeding.
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What are you talking about lol?

Even if you have an NI licence you can pay the fine and tick the box that states you hold a foriegn licence and they never follow it up as long as the fine was paid, not as handy for the southern drivers to get away with it in the North though but theyre practically free from prosecution in England.

It is a bit of a problem, I live near Newry and regularly drive to Dublin, all the NI registered cars are below speed limit untill the border then flat out and vice versa coming into Newry all the southern cars speed up as their balls grow with diplomatic immuntiy (its a joke I know they dont really have Diplomatic immuntity!)

[DrDeAtH]

The 2 points will go onto a 'virtual licence' held in your name in eire. just means that they have a record of your misdemeanour. means nothing to you in the conventional sense of collecting any points on your uk licence. just pay up and everyone is happy.

[tauzguy]

Decky_Q said:

What are you talking about lol?

I was referring to the chap who started this thread entitled "speeding in southern ireland".

Theres no country in the world called 'southern ireland' This would suggest that the offender is a little over-sensitive to a speding ticket he managed to clock up here in Ireland.

[EU_Foreigner]

Well, at least by identifying it as Soutern Ireland, it at least stops the first question on this thread from being "is it the north or south where you got caught".

[MrsMiggins]

tauzguy said:

Jonathan,

Why are you calling our country 'southern Ireland'? Seems like you're becoming a little bit political......

I suppose it's a consequence of the non-RoI part being called Northern Ireland; I don't think the OP had any intention of raising a political issue, he just wanted to clarify where the offence was.

I used to work with a company with offices in Scotland, England, NI and Eire - some people referred to the Eire offices as 'the South' to differentiate them from the ones in 'the North'. At no time was anyone wishing to cause offence or spark up a political debate - that didn't stop some folk from taking it that way though, and to my mind they knew perfectly well what was meant, they just took offence for the sake of taking offence. It would have been just as easy for them to say "would you mind not referring to my country as 'the South' please? it's Eire/RoI/whatever". I know that the ones who 'mis-spoke' would have been happy to comply.

Edited to attribute quote to correct poster.

Edited by MrsMiggins on Sunday 27th September 17:07

[OnTheOverrun]

MrsMiggins said:

tauzguy said:

Jonathan,

Why are you calling our country 'southern Ireland'? Seems like you're becoming a little bit political......

I suppose it's a consequence of the non-RoI part being called Northern Ireland; I don't think the OP had any intention of raising a political issue, he just wanted to clarify where the offence was.

I used to work with a company with offices in Scotland, England, NI and Eire - some people referred to the Eire offices as 'the South' to differentiate them from the ones in 'the North'. At no time was anyone wishing to cause offence or spark up a political debate - that didn't stop some folk from taking it that way though, and to my mind they knew perfectly well what was meant, they just took offence for the sake of taking offence. It would have been just as easy for them to say "would you mind not referring to my country as 'the South' please? it's Eire/RoI/whatever". I know that the ones who 'mis-spoke' would have been happy to comply.

Edited to attribute quote to correct poster.

Edited by MrsMiggins on Sunday 27th September 17:07

Perhaps it would've been easier to ask whether they mean the bit Ireland we own or the bit we used to own. . . . . . . . .

[EU_Foreigner]

... or the bit that can vote in UK elections or is classed as a domestic destination.

Oh ... that will be both of them then.

[tauzguy]

OnTheOverrun said:

Perhaps it would've been easier to ask whether they mean the bit Ireland we own or the bit we used to own. . . . . . . . .

Or the bit most people would rather part from.

[jgguinness]

Tauzguy

"Jonathan,

Why are you calling our country 'southern Ireland'? Seems like you're becoming a little bit political......"

Sorry but I didn’t mean to offend anyone, and it certainly wasn’t intended to be of a political nature. It’s just what I have always referred to it as; I have been travelling to West Cork for over 30 years. My mother is from West Cork and I have large numbers relatives living in that area, so I am certainly not going to be offensive to my own family. As a previous poster commented on, it probably stems from calling the area north of the border as Northern Ireland. Even though Southern Ireland was a short-lived autonomous region of the United Kingdom and was dissolved in December 1922, many websites, including “official tourism” websites still refer to the ROI as Southern Ireland.

Back to the topic, this morning I received through the post a letter stating that I had been given two penalty points, but with no further instructions, so I guess, as stated by another poster, that these will be held on a virtual license.

Kind regards
Jonathan

[skwdenyer]

HellDiver said:

An Garda Siochana has the ability now to transfer points to N. Irish driving licences, and they also employ a debt collection agency to retreive fines from UK residents.

Used to be if you could make it to the border you were laughing, now it's not that simple.

Err, no you couldn't. A friend of mine was threatened with extradition proceedings for failure to deal with a driving offence in Eire some years ago. There was some debate as to whether it was enforceable, but that would have cost my friend more in legal fees than the fine was worth.

[tauzguy]

jgguinness said:

Tauzguy

"Jonathan,

Why are you calling our country 'southern Ireland'? Seems like you're becoming a little bit political......"

Sorry but I didn’t mean to offend anyone, and it certainly wasn’t intended to be of a political nature. It’s just what I have always referred to it as; I have been travelling to West Cork for over 30 years. My mother is from West Cork and I have large numbers relatives living in that area, so I am certainly not going to be offensive to my own family. As a previous poster commented on, it probably stems from calling the area north of the border as Northern Ireland. Even though Southern Ireland was a short-lived autonomous region of the United Kingdom and was dissolved in December 1922, many websites, including “official tourism” websites still refer to the ROI as Southern Ireland.

Back to the topic, this morning I received through the post a letter stating that I had been given two penalty points, but with no further instructions, so I guess, as stated by another poster, that these will be held on a virtual license.

Kind regards
Jonathan

But that could be misleading... Put it this way: If Tourism websites started referring to the Czech Republic as Czechoslovakia, nobody would be able to find such a country, let alone on the map....!

Cork is well known for the laser speed traps. The Cops regularly conduct stings on the roadways there. See these videos of the speed traps in Cork:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caec8NQI19I

Theres other vids on them also in the users channel.

[TonyToniTone]

Cork is in south or Ireland so he's correct..

[chevystorm]

TonyToniTone said:

Cork is in south or Ireland so he's correct..

'Southern Ireland' is the generic term of a West Brit.

Here in the States, we are often referred to as 'yanks' by stupid west brits.

[Lennaldo]

chevystorm said:

TonyToniTone said:

Cork is in south or Ireland so he's correct..

'Southern Ireland' is the generic term of a West Brit.

Here in the States, we are often referred to as 'yanks' by stupid west brits.

As a person from Lancashire are you telling me people from Yorkshire are less likely to call the Republic of Ireland, Southern Ireland. I have to admit I've never heard the term 'west brit' and would like to know excatly which group of people it is refering too, not that i will be offended by being put into this group as it is a acurate explanation of where I am from.

[Red Devil]

matchmaker said:

EU_Foreigner said:

Did not know that, wonder why. There is no Scottish / Welsh license or English, so why NI?

Historical, I suppose.

Yep. Check the front of your passport.
It's The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. GB is England+Wales+Scotland. Yet Scotland has a different legal system from England & Wales. However RTA/RTOA/etc still apply north of the border AFAIK. Delightfully quirky place the UK. NI is quite different in lots of ways.

[phumy]

chevystorm said:

TonyToniTone said:

Cork is in south or Ireland so he's correct..

'Southern Ireland' is the generic term of a West Brit.

Here in the States, we are often referred to as 'yanks' by stupid west brits.

Us West Brits also commonly call you lot Spetic's too

[tauzguy]

phumy said:

chevystorm said:

'Southern Ireland' is the generic term of a West Brit.

Here in the States, we are often referred to as 'yanks' by stupid west brits.

Us West Brits also commonly call you lot Spetic's too

just like we call you lot the "Brit Pom's" here in the north of our country.

Edited by tauzguy on Saturday 19th December 16:02