Speeding in Southern Ireland
Discussion
Lennaldo said:
[ I have to admit I've never heard the term 'west brit' and would like to know excatly which group of people it is refering too,
"West Brit" shortened from "West Briton" - term used not at all endearingly by Irish folks of the Republican/Nationalist/Constitutional ilk to refer to their fellow countrymen who would prefer Ireland to be a part of Britain. ie there's Britain, and then there's West Britain, removing the entire concept of Ireland all together.It's a complex insult in that it doesn't include Unionists or Loyalists, or indeed British people living in Ireland (plenty of different insults available for them!) but generally refers to Irish people who'd rather Ireland didn't exist as a seperate entity, because they believe Irish people are incapable of running their own affairs.
"Jackeen" is tenously linked to it, although that insult is reserved for Dubliners.
Watch how you use it around Irish people, it's fighting talk.
Edited by slow_poke on Saturday 19th December 17:50
As an Englishman, I refer to Ireland.
There is a North, and a South. It is all Ireland imho. And very nice people (in general) too from what I've found in my travels in both the North and the South of the country.
The issue eluded to in many of these posts is the difference between the governance of the "North" and the "South".
The only difference as far as I'm concerned is that it's cheaper in the North, and the Guinness is nicer when it doesn't have to travel as far, so it's better nearer Dublin.
The poitin is good everywhere!
Going back to the OP. Pay the fine, you did the crime.
There is a North, and a South. It is all Ireland imho. And very nice people (in general) too from what I've found in my travels in both the North and the South of the country.
The issue eluded to in many of these posts is the difference between the governance of the "North" and the "South".
The only difference as far as I'm concerned is that it's cheaper in the North, and the Guinness is nicer when it doesn't have to travel as far, so it's better nearer Dublin.
The poitin is good everywhere!
Going back to the OP. Pay the fine, you did the crime.
Well to put a close to the subject, I fully admit I did speed, and hence I have paid my fine. Regarding to row over South/North. There was not political meaning behind the name I gave it in the thread topic, its just what we have always referred to it as, may it be South of the border or anything else for that matter. I certainly didnt bring The United States of America in to it (or have I named that incorrectly??)
Edited by jgguinness on Saturday 26th December 23:28
chevystorm said:
TonyToniTone said:
Cork is in south or Ireland so he's correct..
'Southern Ireland' is the generic term of a West Brit.Here in the States, we are often referred to as 'yanks' by stupid west brits.
Speaking as someone whose paternal grandmother came from Co Cork, whose paternal grandfather was merely Irish, whose maternal grandfather was born in Berwick but reckoned he was Scottish and whose remaining grandparent didn't give a damn where she was from, I believe I have the ability to get upset at whatever anyone calls any country in Britain, the UK, Great Britain, the British Isles . . .
Southern Ireland seems to me to be a reasonable classification of the location of the incident. Many of those from Eire call their country Ireland, some call it The South. Whatever, it doesn't have just the one name. I live in Sussex, or East Sussex or, just to be precise, Brighton, which is in neither county now that it is a city. I also live in 'the south' according to many people who live in more northern parts of England. I live 'south' according to some Scottish friends who regard Cumbria as 'south'. In Scotland you can live in the Highlands or the Lowlands. People in each area use the term for the other area often with some degree of contempt.
I view myself as British, which does not include Norther Ireland, the Six Counties, Ireland . . . My father believed his nationality to be UK, having fought alongside soldiers from NI, Scotland and Wales as well as other English. All for one and that sort of thing.
What I am trying to say is you might have your idea as to what you want to be called and probably have a certain degree of ability to define the term of your country is known. However, accept that others will call you other things without meaning to insult. I'm not English, I'm British. But call me what you want as long as you don't mean to insult because I don't care.
Southern Ireland seems to me to be a reasonable classification of the location of the incident. Many of those from Eire call their country Ireland, some call it The South. Whatever, it doesn't have just the one name. I live in Sussex, or East Sussex or, just to be precise, Brighton, which is in neither county now that it is a city. I also live in 'the south' according to many people who live in more northern parts of England. I live 'south' according to some Scottish friends who regard Cumbria as 'south'. In Scotland you can live in the Highlands or the Lowlands. People in each area use the term for the other area often with some degree of contempt.
I view myself as British, which does not include Norther Ireland, the Six Counties, Ireland . . . My father believed his nationality to be UK, having fought alongside soldiers from NI, Scotland and Wales as well as other English. All for one and that sort of thing.
What I am trying to say is you might have your idea as to what you want to be called and probably have a certain degree of ability to define the term of your country is known. However, accept that others will call you other things without meaning to insult. I'm not English, I'm British. But call me what you want as long as you don't mean to insult because I don't care.
RichB said:
Derek Smith said:
I'm not English, I'm British. But call me what you want as long as you don't mean to insult because I don't care.
Out of interest Derekwhy do you say you're not English? Where were you born?
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