Caught on Parking Eye - HELP

[oldsoak]

streaky said:

oldsoak said:

The acid test is to wait and see if they reckon their case is strong enough to take to court and not to volunteer any info that may help them strengthen it along the way.

As you know, they first have to identify the driver in order to take them to court. Short of using G00gle Goggles (when fully working and free of privacy complaints), or perusing Facebook and other social/business networking sites in the hope of matching a poor quality still from a video to a photograph, or lying in wait for the driver at the scene of the original 'crime' ... they don't have much hope - Streaky

I think we're basically saying the same thing.
The thing is though we're assuming that all they have IS a poor quality still image...like I said, the acid test will be if they DO take it to Court.

[streaky]

oldsoak said:

streaky said:

oldsoak said:

The acid test is to wait and see if they reckon their case is strong enough to take to court and not to volunteer any info that may help them strengthen it along the way.

As you know, they first have to identify the driver in order to take them to court. Short of using G00gle Goggles (when fully working and free of privacy complaints), or perusing Facebook and other social/business networking sites in the hope of matching a poor quality still from a video to a photograph, or lying in wait for the driver at the scene of the original 'crime' ... they don't have much hope - Streaky

I think we're basically saying the same thing.
The thing is though we're assuming that all they have IS a poor quality still image...like I said, the acid test will be if they DO take it to Court.

I think we are, but the point is that they can only take the driver to court and they must identify the driver beforehand to issue the claim against them in the Court. A photograph (no matter how good quality it might be) does not in and of itself identify an individual. As they're very largely posture and bluff, they're hardly likely to come a-knocking at the door in an attempt to positively identify the driver - Streaky

[ymwoods]

streaky said:

[Just PP it Miss Jones

Sorry if I am showing ignorance here but what does PP mean? I know (or think) its something about someone signing on your behalf but am not sure how this would be an advantage here since your letter admits nothing and denies nothing?

[Grandad Gaz]

Why do companies like these have PO Box numbers?

Is it to prevent you being tempted to go around their offices and punch them in the face?

[bluepolarbear]

ymwoods said:

streaky said:

[Just PP it Miss Jones

Sorry if I am showing ignorance here but what does PP mean? I know (or think) its something about someone signing on your behalf but am not sure how this would be an advantage here since your letter admits nothing and denies nothing?

pp is shorthand latin for Pro Persona which means "for the person". You guessed correctly, it is used on letters when the signature is that of the person sending the letter ie signed on behalf of

[bluepolarbear]

Grandad Gaz said:

Why do companies like these have PO Box numbers?

Is it to prevent you being tempted to go around their offices and punch them in the face?

If you ring the post office they will tell the address of the owner of the PO box. People use PO Box addresses for ease of posting much in the same way they use 0800/0845 numbers etc.

[streaky]

bluepolarbear said:

Grandad Gaz said:

Why do companies like these have PO Box numbers?

Is it to prevent you being tempted to go around their offices and punch them in the face?

If you ring the post office they will tell the address of the owner of the PO box. People use PO Box addresses for ease of posting much in the same way they use 0800/0845 numbers etc.

And some use 0870 numbers to make money from callers. And some try to claim that such a number is 'free' - Streaky

[Red Devil]

streaky said:

bluepolarbear said:

Grandad Gaz said:

Why do companies like these have PO Box numbers?

Is it to prevent you being tempted to go around their offices and punch them in the face?

If you ring the post office they will tell the address of the owner of the PO box. People use PO Box addresses for ease of posting much in the same way they use 0800/0845 numbers etc.

And some use 0870 numbers to make money from callers. And some try to claim that such a number is 'free' - Streaky

Greedy (they get rebated a percentage of every call made to 0870 & 0871 numbers).
There is no need to line their coffers - http://www.saynoto0870.com/

[Funk]

I think it's outrageous that the DVLA will sell your registration info to any company who asks for it. As far as I'm concerned, that information should be kept confidential unless required by law for a police investigation.

[ymwoods]

Funk said:

I think it's outrageous that the DVLA will sell your registration info to any company who asks for it. As far as I'm concerned, that information should be kept confidential unless required by law for a police investigation.

They sell it to advertisers now too, have you not heard?

[DBSV8]

I parked in Asda Poole , which has a pay and display 1 pound for 2 hours , refundable at the checkout if you buy goods above 5 pounds ,

Not bad as you can park shop in Poole town centre then do your weekly shop for free,

I parked up bought a ticket , went shopping in town then back to the store to do the weekly shop , while in the shop realised 2 hours was about to expire , so payed for items 200 quid went back to car , wife was still shopping , so put another ticket on the car went back in the shop and helped the wife , when we returned there was a parking notice on the windscreen ,
I took it off went with both parking tickets and both till reciepts to customer services ,

and showed them the tickets , they were very apologetic and explained they would get the ticket cancelled ...........next day we are at Heathrow flight to Russia ,
return 2 months later , to find loads of demands threatening civil action from collection agency.
called Asda , they were apologetic and gave me contact details of collection agency head office
I phoned them up First thing they said ,"" Do you have the till reciepts and parking tickets to prove you were shopping in the store ""
Yes ....parking ticket 1 at 11:00 - 13:00 till reciept 13:15 parking ticket 2 13:20 -15:20 till reciept 2 14:00 parking notice issued 13:18

When I told the chap the times , he apologised and said no further action would be taken , followed up with a letter

Edited by DBSV8 on Wednesday 15th September 07:21

[10 Pence Short]

Interestingly, one such letter I've seen recently is an ANPR based system. They offer to send the RK the photgraphic evidence of the driver for the sum of £10.

If you are genuinely unsure who was driving, but as RK are sure you were not, how does this stand were the matter to reach court?

I would consider the most reasonable response (assuming you took the matter seriously) as RK in this situation would be to write back and offer to help identify the driver using the photgraphic evidence, but decline to pay £10 in order to help them do so. If they refused and took the RK to court, how would this look in terms of ADR attempts etc?

[Mill Wheel]

10 Pence Short said:

Interestingly, one such letter I've seen recently is an ANPR based system. They offer to send the RK the photgraphic evidence of the driver for the sum of £10.

If you are genuinely unsure who was driving, but as RK are sure you were not, how does this stand were the matter to reach court?

I would consider the most reasonable response (assuming you took the matter seriously) as RK in this situation would be to write back and offer to help identify the driver using the photgraphic evidence, but decline to pay £10 in order to help them do so. If they refused and took the RK to court, how would this look in terms of ADR attempts etc?

There is NO obligation for the RK to identify the driver under these circumstances.
You do not even have to offer an explanation.

[10 Pence Short]

Mill Wheel said:

10 Pence Short said:

Interestingly, one such letter I've seen recently is an ANPR based system. They offer to send the RK the photgraphic evidence of the driver for the sum of £10.

If you are genuinely unsure who was driving, but as RK are sure you were not, how does this stand were the matter to reach court?

I would consider the most reasonable response (assuming you took the matter seriously) as RK in this situation would be to write back and offer to help identify the driver using the photgraphic evidence, but decline to pay £10 in order to help them do so. If they refused and took the RK to court, how would this look in terms of ADR attempts etc?

There is NO obligation for the RK to identify the driver under these circumstances.
You do not even have to offer an explanation.

I realise that. In the rare and frankly unheard of event of the RK being taken to the SCC, it would look bad if the RK was clearly there on camera and had ignored all of the correspondance, though.

As abhorrent as these things often are, a ticket is usually generated by someone contravening the contract in the first place, irrespective of whether or not there is any actual loss.

[Road2Ruin]

pattyg said:

I was caught on video leaving 15 mins after the 2 hour limit at a Retail Park in Wales...didn't see any signs but can someone confirm if I need to pay this?

Thanks

Well he has admitted the overstay, just need to sort out the signage issue! Let's hope the parking company don't read PHs......

[cobra kid]

I've had 3 letters and now a letter from some tinpot solicitors representing Parking Eye. It threatens small claims court action. I have been strong in resisting paying so far.....shall I continue being brave?

[PottyMouth]

Road2Ruin said:

pattyg said:

I was caught on video leaving 15 mins after the 2 hour limit at a Retail Park in Wales...didn't see any signs but can someone confirm if I need to pay this?

Thanks

Well he has admitted the overstay, just need to sort out the signage issue! Let's hope the parking company don't read PHs......

I'm at a loss as to explain why anyone would take these pretend, Mickey Mouse parking "tickets" even remotely seriously.

They are a private company relying on mugs to make a quick buck.

Anyone who pays a private parking ticket is just perpetuating the scam.

[PottyMouth]

And if you did charge someone for parking on your drive, would you want to keep the money yourself, or ask the "offender" to pay it to a private company hundreds of miles away?

Edited by PottyMouth on Saturday 18th September 13:23

[saaby93]

The unreasonable part is the 2 hour limit for staying at a shopping centre and with no obvious warning signs.

Its not the same as parking somewhere that youre not supposed to

[saaby93]

saaby93 said:

The unreasonable part is the 2 hour limit for staying at a shopping centre and with no obvious warning signs.
It's not the same as parking somewhere that youre not supposed to

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