Car being deliberately blocked in when parked on a road
Discussion
saaby93 said:
mantis84 said:
Deva Link said:
I do think people shouldn't have more cars than they have off-road parking for. One of the things I liked about our road was that it didn't have cars parked everywhere. But now the couple next door have 4 cars, but only a single garage and a drive capable of holding 2 more.
Overnight parking on the road (or worse, half on the pavement) should be banned unless allowed by permit.
I live in a flat in London and have no garage or off-street parking available. By your well though out logic, neither me nor my flatmate should own a car, ever. Overnight parking on the road (or worse, half on the pavement) should be banned unless allowed by permit.
or find a car park or lock up
or a flat with parking if you need it
You're saying that all of these should either tarmac their front gardens if they need more space, or that the local farmer should convert one of his fields into a car park for them?!?
Before you say it, these properties do need multiple cars - the bus service is not good enough for anyone who works vaguely normal hours, plus nearest bus stop is around a mile from the road in question.
rscott said:
You're saying that all of these should either tarmac their front gardens if they need more space, or that the local farmer should convert one of his fields into a car park for them?!?
Yep and charge a reasonable fee 
When we buy a car we have to think where we're going to keep it.
We cant just leave it in the road and hope no-one notices. Next we'll be complaining the roads are all clogged up
What are roads for?
It's probably an age thing - keeping the place tidy and not upsetting the neighbours ( or anyone driving through) by leaving a car in the street
Wheres Oldsoak
saaby93 said:
rscott said:
You're saying that all of these should either tarmac their front gardens if they need more space, or that the local farmer should convert one of his fields into a car park for them?!?
Yep and charge a reasonable fee When we buy a car we have to think where we're going to keep it.
We cant just leave it in the road and hope no-one notices. Next we'll be complaining the roads are all clogged up
What are roads for?
It's probably an age thing - keeping the place tidy and not upsetting the neighbours ( or anyone driving through) by leaving a car in the street
Wheres Oldsoak
saaby93 said:
What are roads for?
- horses. At least when most/all of the roads round here were first built.Edited by rscott on Monday 20th December 12:36
saaby93 said:
rscott said:
You're saying that all of these should either tarmac their front gardens if they need more space, or that the local farmer should convert one of his fields into a car park for them?!?
Yep and charge a reasonable fee When we buy a car we have to think where we're going to keep it.
We cant just leave it in the road and hope no-one notices. Next we'll be complaining the roads are all clogged up
What are roads for?
It's probably an age thing - keeping the place tidy and not upsetting the neighbours ( or anyone driving through) by leaving a car in the street
Wheres Oldsoak
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&a...
Now, in case it's too complex for you, there is very few houses on this street that have their own parking space. So, as this is a road, are you saying that no cars should be parked here? And as a result no-one who lives in one of these houses should have a car?
Muncher said:
garyhun said:
My neighbour has around 5 cars and for the last year have been having building work done so no driveway parking. On many an occasion I have had to struggle to get out of my own drive due to inconsiderate parking so I do know a little how it feels sometimes having 5/6/7 vehicles seemingly penning you in. This does seem different from your situation though.
But - I have always gone and spoken to them and just asked them to show consideration and they have (on the whole) obliged. Escalation like this helps no one.
We did, we asked them 3 times, they said yes then changed their mind and just refused to move it.But - I have always gone and spoken to them and just asked them to show consideration and they have (on the whole) obliged. Escalation like this helps no one.
rscott said:
Before you say it, these properties do need multiple cars - the bus service is not good enough for anyone who works vaguely normal hours, plus nearest bus stop is around a mile from the road in question.
If people didn't have cars then the bus service would expand to take up the demand.STW2010 said:
Now, in case it's too complex for you, there is very few houses on this street that have their own parking space. So, as this is a road, are you saying that no cars should be parked here? And as a result no-one who lives in one of these houses should have a car?
No of course not - and it's a bit late now!When buying a house it's one of the decisions to add in where do we park the car?
(other than we'll annoy Fred down the road as he doesn't have a car)
It might mean using the local car park at night or renting a lock up.
You can see from OPs photo that most of them are trying to keep the street clear by parking off road. Its a nighbourly thing to do. I posted on page2 about how these things escalate and in the end no one can get about and no-ons speaking to each other.
There has to be another way.
But that's the problem. OP parking there shouldn't annoy them, yet they have blocked them in!
That didn't happen down that road I posted the link to- people weren't territorial about the spaces outside their houses. On occassion I couldn't get parked near my house and was parked at the other end of the road, and on a couple of occassions I could even get parked on that street at all. It was a bit annoying, but as I didn't have more rights to the road outside my house than any neighbouring resident I just accepted it.
We rented our house there, and if we wanted a place with parking spaces for two cars then we would have needed to pay double the rent. That was simply not going to happen.
As for the bus service, it was either a 20-30 minute drive to work, or an hour and a half on several buses. I would always choose driving.
That didn't happen down that road I posted the link to- people weren't territorial about the spaces outside their houses. On occassion I couldn't get parked near my house and was parked at the other end of the road, and on a couple of occassions I could even get parked on that street at all. It was a bit annoying, but as I didn't have more rights to the road outside my house than any neighbouring resident I just accepted it.
We rented our house there, and if we wanted a place with parking spaces for two cars then we would have needed to pay double the rent. That was simply not going to happen.
As for the bus service, it was either a 20-30 minute drive to work, or an hour and a half on several buses. I would always choose driving.
saaby93 said:
rscott said:
You're saying that all of these should either tarmac their front gardens if they need more space, or that the local farmer should convert one of his fields into a car park for them?!?
Yep and charge a reasonable fee When we buy a car we have to think where we're going to keep it.
We cant just leave it in the road and hope no-one notices. Next we'll be complaining the roads are all clogged up
What are roads for?
It's probably an age thing - keeping the place tidy and not upsetting the neighbours ( or anyone driving through) by leaving a car in the street
Wheres Oldsoak
Tell you what though, Maybe we should go corncrete over the playing fields across the road so we can park without upsetting you or Deva Link. The kids can always play football in the roads then - There'd be no cars to hit with the balls!.
garyhun said:
Muncher said:
garyhun said:
My neighbour has around 5 cars and for the last year have been having building work done so no driveway parking. On many an occasion I have had to struggle to get out of my own drive due to inconsiderate parking so I do know a little how it feels sometimes having 5/6/7 vehicles seemingly penning you in. This does seem different from your situation though.
But - I have always gone and spoken to them and just asked them to show consideration and they have (on the whole) obliged. Escalation like this helps no one.
We did, we asked them 3 times, they said yes then changed their mind and just refused to move it.But - I have always gone and spoken to them and just asked them to show consideration and they have (on the whole) obliged. Escalation like this helps no one.
Muncher said:
garyhun said:
Muncher said:
garyhun said:
My neighbour has around 5 cars and for the last year have been having building work done so no driveway parking. On many an occasion I have had to struggle to get out of my own drive due to inconsiderate parking so I do know a little how it feels sometimes having 5/6/7 vehicles seemingly penning you in. This does seem different from your situation though.
But - I have always gone and spoken to them and just asked them to show consideration and they have (on the whole) obliged. Escalation like this helps no one.
We did, we asked them 3 times, they said yes then changed their mind and just refused to move it.But - I have always gone and spoken to them and just asked them to show consideration and they have (on the whole) obliged. Escalation like this helps no one.
Muncher said:
Yes, they just came round and said don't park there because they won't park on their own drive because it's too slippery (even when dry), that they've made the entrance too small so they can't park both cars on there (so won't park any) and that they may have visitors at some point.
They have no leg to stand on - they can't tell you not to park there, same as you cant tell them not to park outside your houseUnfortunately it doesnt help and is only going to grow
Deva Link said:
rscott said:
Before you say it, these properties do need multiple cars - the bus service is not good enough for anyone who works vaguely normal hours, plus nearest bus stop is around a mile from the road in question.
If people didn't have cars then the bus service would expand to take up the demand.The large town at the end of the bus route doesn't even have a bus station any more... It was rebuilt into a (failed) arts facility and they still haven't decided where to put the new one..
Muncher said:
Yes, they just came round and said don't park there because they won't park on their own drive because it's too slippery (even when dry), that they've made the entrance too small so they can't park both cars on there (so won't park any) and that they may have visitors at some point.
Well they can f
k right off as it isn't their land.
Muncher said:
garyhun said:
Muncher said:
garyhun said:
My neighbour has around 5 cars and for the last year have been having building work done so no driveway parking. On many an occasion I have had to struggle to get out of my own drive due to inconsiderate parking so I do know a little how it feels sometimes having 5/6/7 vehicles seemingly penning you in. This does seem different from your situation though.
But - I have always gone and spoken to them and just asked them to show consideration and they have (on the whole) obliged. Escalation like this helps no one.
We did, we asked them 3 times, they said yes then changed their mind and just refused to move it.But - I have always gone and spoken to them and just asked them to show consideration and they have (on the whole) obliged. Escalation like this helps no one.
One place I used to live had a weapons grade cockend who'd use the untaxed cars on his drive to block in anyone parking outside his house. He gave up after doing it to me. I'd asked him to move them politely but he said no, so as at the time I owned a 4x4 with winch bumpers etc I just drove off anyway. Obviously I had to shuffle backwards & forwards several times to get out the space, but as both of his cars were untaxed I'd have loved to see him claim over it. Oddly I never heard a thing about it.
It might have also been known once to drag a car that keep parking across a neighbours drive & leave it in the middle of the crossroads at the end of the street before reporting an abandoned car, oddly that stopped happening too.
It might have also been known once to drag a car that keep parking across a neighbours drive & leave it in the middle of the crossroads at the end of the street before reporting an abandoned car, oddly that stopped happening too.
rscott said:
Deva Link said:
rscott said:
Before you say it, these properties do need multiple cars - the bus service is not good enough for anyone who works vaguely normal hours, plus nearest bus stop is around a mile from the road in question.
If people didn't have cars then the bus service would expand to take up the demand.The large town at the end of the bus route doesn't even have a bus station any more... It was rebuilt into a (failed) arts facility and they still haven't decided where to put the new one..
Chester (we live about 6 miles outside it) doesn't have a bus station anymore ether, but there are still plenty (many people think too many) buses.
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