Discussion about RED diesel

Discussion about RED diesel

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aclivity

4,072 posts

188 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Crazy Torque said:
Some years back, you could buy a filter on eBay to remove the 'red'. Friend mentioned it to me, no idea what it was though. Probably not on eBay now - anyone know what this is, and where to buy one?
Vague recollection of "fullers earth" being able to remove the red dye, but I don't know if it can be put in a filter or how long it would work for.

Just googled "fullers earth red diesel" and this was the top link.

SplatSpeed

7,490 posts

251 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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aclivity said:
Vague recollection of "fullers earth" being able to remove the red dye, but I don't know if it can be put in a filter or how long it would work for.

Just googled "fullers earth red diesel" and this was the top link.
fullers earth works

however it is not used in the vehicle!

wolf1

3,081 posts

250 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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GTIR said:
No, but it stains the fuel lines, filters and injectors. Red, obviously.

All the HMRC guys do is undo a few bolts in the engine bay bypassing the tank. I've never seen them dip tanks.
Had a transit that the previous owner had run on red for quite a considerable time and not one single part of the system was dyed red in any way shape or form. Same goes for any plant I've worked on that was run on red. The red dye colouring fuel system parts is a myth.

Also they do actualy dip the tank through the filler neck with a long plastic pipette

F i F

44,061 posts

251 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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The one I always wondered about was if anyone had ever converted a domestic LPG tank to be able to fill up a vehicle. All you'd need would be a dip pipe, maybe a pump plus the connection doobry to the vehicle tank filler.

richyb

4,615 posts

210 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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I've seen some long range tanks fitted to 4X4s. I am sure you could source and fit something similar pretty simply.

sinizter

3,348 posts

186 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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F i F said:
The one I always wondered about was if anyone had ever converted a domestic LPG tank to be able to fill up a vehicle. All you'd need would be a dip pipe, maybe a pump plus the connection doobry to the vehicle tank filler.
Yes, someone had made a hand/foot pump to do this. I'll try to find it for you later, but I found it while looking at home LPG storage or something like that.

DPX

1,027 posts

200 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Many years ago in a county far away ..... local vicar turned up with someone who had put petrol in a oil burner and could I help .

Emptied the tank for them and then I needed diesel no garage for miles , vicar goes away and return with 25 liters of marine diesel and it was as red as rudolfs nose .

He held the funnel I held the can ( he was a old vic ) .

Could this be a act of god ?

PigFilth

3,619 posts

201 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Seen them dip tanks loads of times when I've worked on the roadside vehicle check ops.

wolf1

3,081 posts

250 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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F i F said:
The one I always wondered about was if anyone had ever converted a domestic LPG tank to be able to fill up a vehicle. All you'd need would be a dip pipe, maybe a pump plus the connection doobry to the vehicle tank filler.
Seen one at a farm. Also if you can get hold of the correct pump LPG cars can be filled from the big bottles which as they are for domestic use etc then they a a lot cheaper. (bottle has to be upside down though so it gets the liquid and not just the gas)

Wings

5,814 posts

215 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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F i F said:
The one I always wondered about was if anyone had ever converted a domestic LPG tank to be able to fill up a vehicle. All you'd need would be a dip pipe, maybe a pump plus the connection doobry to the vehicle tank filler.
Simple thing to do, and very financially beneficial if one was a distributor of bottle gas, emptying all returned “so called empty” gas bottles, with the contents going into the tank of a LPG converted vehicle.

Wings

5,814 posts

215 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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catso said:
Who said the Stasi were finished in 1990?...
Not me!!

Gwagon111

4,422 posts

161 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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If you were to accidentally spill a load of green food dye into your red diesel, it would look, to all intents and purposes, like regular diesel.
yes

hidetheelephants

24,284 posts

193 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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wolf1 said:
Seen one at a farm. Also if you can get hold of the correct pump LPG cars can be filled from the big bottles which as they are for domestic use etc then they a a lot cheaper. (bottle has to be upside down though so it gets the liquid and not just the gas)
Not really cheaper out of a bottle. Bottled LPG is about £1 a litre round here and bulk a bit more than half that. Are your prices much different?

wolf1

3,081 posts

250 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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hidetheelephants said:
Not really cheaper out of a bottle. Bottled LPG is about £1 a litre round here and bulk a bit more than half that. Are your prices much different?
Was a few years ago when LPG was around 50p a litre at the pumps and buying the big bottles it worked out around 12p per litre.

dudleybloke

19,815 posts

186 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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can you get away with it if your colourblind? smile

scott64

236 posts

251 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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I think you will find that the red dye is just one of the aspects you will also find there is a UV dye in red diesel. I did not believe it so got a UV light and shined it on one of our tractors and sure enough glowed white you could even see the splash marks glowing white!! Try it you will be amazed but not something that is publicised.

jonstable

2,544 posts

213 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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Devon & Cornwall Police sieze any vehicle found using red diesel illegally. Also any suspect fuel, not necessarily red. HMRC then inspect the vehicle and decide whether there are grounds to fine the driver. In my weekend job we ran an operation and dipped over 100 commercial and 4x4 vehicles for red diesel in a 2 hour period. Not one person running on it. Well, unless they had really crafty second tanks.
Amusingly the Biodiesel place over the road from me that supplies all the local hippies got raided by HMRC yesterday and they spent a good few hours testing his pumps, fuel and all manner of things.

Wings

5,814 posts

215 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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hidetheelephants said:
Not really cheaper out of a bottle. Bottled LPG is about £1 a litre round here and bulk a bit more than half that. Are your prices much different?
It surely is if the person receiving the "so called" empty bottles, is not paying for the gas contents.

jazzyjeff

3,652 posts

259 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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Here's an idea...why not save all the hassle and paranoia and just use regular diesel from the pumps? wobble (or go the LPG route instead)

JJ

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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jonstable said:
Devon & Cornwall Police sieze any vehicle found using red diesel illegally. Also any suspect fuel, not necessarily red. HMRC then inspect the vehicle and decide whether there are grounds to fine the driver. In my weekend job we ran an operation and dipped over 100 commercial and 4x4 vehicles for red diesel in a 2 hour period. Not one person running on it. Well, unless they had really crafty second tanks.
Amusingly the Biodiesel place over the road from me that supplies all the local hippies got raided by HMRC yesterday and they spent a good few hours testing his pumps, fuel and all manner of things.
yikes

Hobby Bobby Alert! hehe