Van Speed limit ?
Discussion
Tyngwndwn said:
AndyFoo said:
For other peoples reference a new shape Volkswagen Caddy Van (and long wheelbase version) are also restricted to 50 on national speed limit, single carriage way, A roads.
This is true, when l brought my caddy from VW they sent me a letter comfirming such.
Gwaredd said:
A quirk in this law states that if a window is fitted in the side of the van aft of the drivers seat then it is classed as a minibus & therefore not bound by the lower limit.
It's a bit more complex than that. A 'minibus' is defined as a vehicle constructed or adapted to carry more than 8 (but not more than 16) seated passengers.
Gwaredd said:
A quirk in this law states that if a window is fitted in the side of the van aft of the drivers seat then it is classed as a minibus & therefore not bound by the lower limit. This is why Police vans will be doing 70mph instead of 60 as they are fitted with a window aft of the driver.
However, this means that a minibus full of rugby players & their heavy kit bags can do 70mph on a dual carriageway, whereas an unladen SWB Transit Connect has to stick to 60mph.
Hands up who knows which one will be able to stop quicker?
The Minibus wont be doing 70mph as any vehicle with 9 or more seats is limited to 62mph by law.However, this means that a minibus full of rugby players & their heavy kit bags can do 70mph on a dual carriageway, whereas an unladen SWB Transit Connect has to stick to 60mph.
Hands up who knows which one will be able to stop quicker?
MJK 24 said:
The Minibus wont be doing 70mph as any vehicle with 9 or more seats is limited to 62mph by law.
It's my understanding that the maximum speed for a 'minibus' (ie a passenger vehicle with >8 <17 seats, not including driver) is 70mph (motorway), 60mph (dual-carriageway) and 50mph (other road).SS2. said:
It's my understanding that the maximum speed for a 'minibus' (ie a passenger vehicle with >8 <17 seats, not including driver) is 70mph (motorway), 60mph (dual-carriageway) and 50mph (other road).
Indeed, and it still is, but most* minibuses with >8 seats first registered after 2001 have now had to have speed limiters fitted at 62mph (100km/h).[*]Petrol engined and some low emission diesel engined minibuses are exempt speed limiters up to the 2005 registration date.
The speed limit thing is the same with trucks, they're limited by law to 60mph on the motorway, but the limiters are set to 56mph (90km/h).
My favourite law.
I used to have a Lwb trafic, and a Espace. Driving to Peebles one morning in the van, passed a speed camera van at the egg farm, checks speedo, showing 60, no probs.
Letter arrives with the NIP, speed is 59. Checks map, thinks, that's an A road, out of town, gotta be a 60 limit, so I ring the camera partnership to explain their cockup.
ME: Hi, you've cocked up, I'm getting done for 59 in a 60
Her: Hmmm, what were you driving, was it a van?
Me: yeah, but its a 60, what's the odds?
Her: Is it a big van?
Me: Not really, a Trafic
Her: Check your highway code, it'll be over 2000kgs gross weight, click,off,gone
Me: *#?!*#**
If I'd have taken my car that morning, which also is over 2000kg gross, same road, speed, driver, everything, then I wouldve still had a clean license. Its a big f
king stitch up IMO
I've got a Kangoo now. Check the V5 first!
I used to have a Lwb trafic, and a Espace. Driving to Peebles one morning in the van, passed a speed camera van at the egg farm, checks speedo, showing 60, no probs.
Letter arrives with the NIP, speed is 59. Checks map, thinks, that's an A road, out of town, gotta be a 60 limit, so I ring the camera partnership to explain their cockup.
ME: Hi, you've cocked up, I'm getting done for 59 in a 60
Her: Hmmm, what were you driving, was it a van?
Me: yeah, but its a 60, what's the odds?
Her: Is it a big van?
Me: Not really, a Trafic
Her: Check your highway code, it'll be over 2000kgs gross weight, click,off,gone
Me: *#?!*#**
If I'd have taken my car that morning, which also is over 2000kg gross, same road, speed, driver, everything, then I wouldve still had a clean license. Its a big f
king stitch up IMOI've got a Kangoo now. Check the V5 first!
Edited by fridgedoctor on Friday 11th March 05:34
Nigel Worc's said:
Gwaredd said:
Chris993C4 said:
Hence why Mk4 Escort vans have an otherwise pointless 2" window behind the B-pillar 
No, as it's car derived Anyhow, like I said. If the front end looks like the car (Polo, Escort, Corsa etc) then as long as the GVW is under 2t, then it's car derived.
mark1970 said:
How do Land Rovers fit in to this law? Also Navara and Warrior pick-ups?
They would be regarded as either passenger vehicles (ie Land Rover with seats) or dual-purpose vehicles (Navara, Warrior, 'commercial' Land Rover, etc) courtesy of having 4wd, assuming that they have an unladen weight of less than 2,040kg, of course. pick-ups?And neither passenger vehicles nor dual-purpose vehicles are subject to special speed limits for their class.
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