G4HKS
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2,497 posts
112 months


Vet Guru
2,080 posts
133 months

Very very nice, Martin has already placed his order for the Ecklers C7 catalog!!


mitch_
1,200 posts
117 months

Hardly revealed Martin. They are mockups from Jalopnik.
What do you think constitutes a 'sensible' price for a sports car with a 500bhp entry model?


5 USA
4,594 posts
138 months

In 1998 a BMW M3 cost the same as a Vette and and that was about 2/3rds the price of a 911.
2012  M3  £55k 2012  911  £72k
If any Vettes are actually going to get sold in UK this looks like the target zone. Roughly the same price range as Lotus Evora.


G4HKS
Original Poster
2,497 posts
112 months

mitch_ said: Hardly revealed Martin. They are mockups from Jalopnik.
What do you think constitutes a 'sensible' price for a sports car with a 500bhp entry model? REVEALED = Attention grabbing Headlines dear chap!! RHD >£100k, pending big steps in improvement to interior build fit and finish. LHD ?  to sell in numbers over here? <£70k, which with the current exchange rate, it ain't gonna happen. A great shame because that's the only way I would step back into a new Vette and more so give a real alternative to the Porker, fast Audi & BMW brigade, let alone used Ferrari, Masser., etc.

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G4HKS
Original Poster
2,497 posts
112 months

5 USA said: In 1998 a BMW M3 cost the same as a Vette and and that was about 2/3rds the price of a 911.
2012  M3  £55k 2012  911  £72k
If any Vettes are actually going to get sold in UK this looks like the target zone. Roughly the same price range as Lotus Evora. +1 (Rare that we actually agree on something Steve. Must be the new year....!)


GW65
547 posts
99 months

Yep, fundamentally the price needs to be perceived as "reasonable". Which really means relative to 911, M3, etc  if it costs the same as a 911 in the US, where it needs to succeed, then fair enough if it costs the same as a 911 over here...but somehow we all know it'll cost 2/3 the cost of a 911 in the US but the same as a 911 over here.
Don't get me wrong, I'd have a Vette over a 911 any day of the week, but I also wouldn't spend £80K on a daily driver. I guess that means I'm not (and probably have never been) in the target demographic (either for the UK or the US) as most are sold as toys, and I'm sure GM won't miss one sale every 6 or 7 years.


mitch_
1,200 posts
117 months

Pricing is typically incremental when a new generation of any car arrives. Based on prices we can order standard C6 I would put that at £60k or there abouts at a guess. The difficulty is that the C7 is benchmarked on a performance and power level against the C6 Z06 from what I can gather. It is also unlikely that they will continue te grand Sport concept so what models there are after that I have no idea.....
M3 is old hat now, when you get a new one you will get your benchmark. It's worth mentioning that given everything that ga happened prices of vettes haven't risen as you would expect. List of a Z06 was £62,000 in 2006. Now six years later it's £80,000. Given GM's policy of annual price increases of 35% this isn't far off the mark given our currency's devaluation.
I'm really sorry about my next comment though because clearly taking two ALevels in Maths has made me a pedant but 55 is actually 76% of 72, not 2/3's.....sorry....


G4HKS
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112 months

Ha Ha!!
Z06 now £80k? May I shoudl have kept mine. Now where's that bloke's number I sold it to?


Vet Guru
2,080 posts
133 months

G4HKS said: Ha Ha!!
Z06 now £80k? May I shoudl have kept mine. Now where's that bloke's number I sold it to? I recall the Ron fellows Z06 selling at £65k at Stratstone at the time selling all 5 of them at the time. At even in 05 i remember somebody I know paying just over £50k for C6 manual Coupe! in LMB Prices have moved on everywhere hell I have an Astra est in the showroom for £21k and it has wheel covers on it!! Cars have gone up I think the used market will always find buyers and the new cars will be left for owners who just want to be in the first of something new. As for the C7 it will always find buyers, Even the Nissan GTR have rocketed up in price too.


GW65
547 posts
99 months

mitch_ said: I'm really sorry about my next comment though because clearly taking two ALevels in Maths has made me a pedant but 55 is actually 76% of 72, not 2/3's.....sorry.... I could say I'd done a complex calculation based on discounted driveaway prices...but I'd just plucked a number out of thin air to make a point! Good to see someone else suffered Maths and Further Maths


LuS1fer
31,947 posts
138 months

I have posted this before but to my eyes, it looks like a GTR and I don't like the looks of the GTR. However, I'll reserve judgement for the real thing.


mitch_
1,200 posts
117 months

GW65 said: I could say I'd done a complex calculation based on discounted driveaway prices...but I'd just plucked a number out of thin air to make a point! Good to see someone else suffered Maths and Further Maths Ahhhh Pure Maths, Statistics, Mechanics, Numerical Computation and Numerical Analysis. I'm so pleased I spent two years of my life studying how to solve 'unsolveable' equations. I vividly recall the last time I used any of it as it was in an exam! Doh! Why am I in the motortrade again?


G4HKS
Original Poster
2,497 posts
112 months

mitch_ said: Doh! Why am I in the motortrade again? Because you're not daft and make far more money in the motor trade than being a rocket scientist....


G4HKS
Original Poster
2,497 posts
112 months

LuS1fer said: I have posted this before but to my eyes, it looks like a GTR and I don't like the looks of the GTR. However, I'll reserve judgement for the real thing. Side view (towards rear) I can see that too. The rest no. Priced pretty much the same too accept the wheel is on the correct side for UK.


GW65
547 posts
99 months

It's definitely a "grower". The first time I saw the renderings I hated it, but now I'm warming to it... Wonder what the vert will look like? (Which is the only version that matters )


GW65
547 posts
99 months

Of course, all that will matter to Top Gear is whether or not the rear panel flexes


CraigVmax
12,230 posts
175 months

profile reminds me slightly of this:


5 USA
4,594 posts
138 months

mitch_ said: List of a Z06 was £62,000 in 2006. Now six years later it's £80,000. I'd wager a lot more Vettes were sold in UK in 2006 than will be sold in 2012, unfortunately. mitch_ said: I'm really sorry about my next comment though because clearly taking two ALevels in Maths has made me a pedant but 55 is actually 76% of 72, not 2/3's.....sorry.... Call me Carol Vorderman if you like, but back in 1998 £40k was 2/3rds of £60k. Since then base 911 has risen by 20% to £72k and price of Corvette has risen by 50% even before the new model arrives. Hmmmm.


LuS1fer
31,947 posts
138 months

Back in 2006 the dollar was something over 2 to the £. Since 2006, we've also had a hike in VAT to 20% so it was bound to cost more relatively. 911's are massproduced and sell like hot 911's so will always have an advantage.

