So how much will a turbo conversion cost me?
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[quote=stevieturbo]There are plenty of people with big power builds in the US, still using LS1-Edit.
That includes cars with over 700bhp.
Check this forum.
www.ls1tech.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9
It takes ages to load on my dial up though for some reason. very slow site.[/quote
Thanks Stevie, I go on there from time to time but as you say it's a painfully slow site! If you look in the pcm section there do seem to be some issues with Edit unless you buy the full spec system whatever that is. I'm also a bit wary of all the codes it can throw up and the gm ecu whilst being very good could also become a nightmare if something was entered incorrectly. Here's a link to Edit which I had.
http://ls1edit.slowcar.net/faq.html
I also have a load of code stuff on this pc and that's the more worrying stuff, well for me anyway!
That includes cars with over 700bhp.
Check this forum.
www.ls1tech.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9
It takes ages to load on my dial up though for some reason. very slow site.[/quote
Thanks Stevie, I go on there from time to time but as you say it's a painfully slow site! If you look in the pcm section there do seem to be some issues with Edit unless you buy the full spec system whatever that is. I'm also a bit wary of all the codes it can throw up and the gm ecu whilst being very good could also become a nightmare if something was entered incorrectly. Here's a link to Edit which I had.
http://ls1edit.slowcar.net/faq.html
I also have a load of code stuff on this pc and that's the more worrying stuff, well for me anyway!
Cliff, there's some info on mixing fuel here:
www.corvetteactioncenter.com/forums/showpost.php?p=104521&postcount=3
another little mix:
www.corvetteactioncenter.com/forums/showpost.php?p=94743&postcount=2
I presume these Callaway guys know what they're doing as detonation is a real potential problem on these turbocars. Apparently my car was detonating at 3500 RPM on Geoff's dyno, that's why they had to back off.
Obviously that big fan can't duplicate the effect of driving a C4 through the air as I've never noticed detonation in all the time I've owned the car.
www.corvetteactioncenter.com/forums/showpost.php?p=104521&postcount=3
another little mix:
www.corvetteactioncenter.com/forums/showpost.php?p=94743&postcount=2
I presume these Callaway guys know what they're doing as detonation is a real potential problem on these turbocars. Apparently my car was detonating at 3500 RPM on Geoff's dyno, that's why they had to back off.
Obviously that big fan can't duplicate the effect of driving a C4 through the air as I've never noticed detonation in all the time I've owned the car.
Lots of the US guys do use good fuel, and or add alcohol injection.
Obviously that kinda thing is much cheaper than it is here.
Either way, it does show the potential these engines have.
Ive never worked with this LS1Edit thing, but if you are turbocharging a car which already has the appropriate management system already, then it would make sense to continue using it.
If retro-fitting to another car, then an alternative engine management system would probably make more sense.
As for fuel over here, its not perfect, but its ok. I see no reason that a well built turbocharged setup shouldnt easily make over 650bhp with similar torque ( although personally, I'd aim a bit higher say 800bhp ).
The US guys do claim a lot of RWHP figures, but I think they are getting confused with flywheel figures. Some just seem too high.
AFAIK there were quite a few cars at Elvington last year using race fuel. Each to their own. If they are building a car that will only make the power on race fuel, then its not for me. I want the power available all the time, and to be able to fill up at a regular filling station ( which costs enough as it is thank you Mr ing Highway Robber Chancellor ). My car is and always will be a road car. Usualy road cars dont require special fuels.
>> Edited by stevieturbo on Monday 3rd May 22:18
Obviously that kinda thing is much cheaper than it is here.
Either way, it does show the potential these engines have.
Ive never worked with this LS1Edit thing, but if you are turbocharging a car which already has the appropriate management system already, then it would make sense to continue using it.
If retro-fitting to another car, then an alternative engine management system would probably make more sense.
As for fuel over here, its not perfect, but its ok. I see no reason that a well built turbocharged setup shouldnt easily make over 650bhp with similar torque ( although personally, I'd aim a bit higher say 800bhp ).
The US guys do claim a lot of RWHP figures, but I think they are getting confused with flywheel figures. Some just seem too high.
AFAIK there were quite a few cars at Elvington last year using race fuel. Each to their own. If they are building a car that will only make the power on race fuel, then its not for me. I want the power available all the time, and to be able to fill up at a regular filling station ( which costs enough as it is thank you Mr ing Highway Robber Chancellor ). My car is and always will be a road car. Usualy road cars dont require special fuels.
>> Edited by stevieturbo on Monday 3rd May 22:18
To add...
The US 93 octane ( MON ) premium fuel is pretty much the equivalent to our SUL 97/98 octane ( RON ) from what I have read.
Regarding feeding a turbo of one bank of cylinders.
I believe Saab did this a few years back on a V6 engine. It was a low boost setup, but it did work, although it was the only time I'd heard of it done.
The US 93 octane ( MON ) premium fuel is pretty much the equivalent to our SUL 97/98 octane ( RON ) from what I have read.
Regarding feeding a turbo of one bank of cylinders.
I believe Saab did this a few years back on a V6 engine. It was a low boost setup, but it did work, although it was the only time I'd heard of it done.
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