Caterham R400 K-engine MBE map Help

Caterham R400 K-engine MBE map Help

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calimerus

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27 posts

116 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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IBDAET said:
Oh, is the backfire from the trunmpets or exhaust?

I can look at your map for any reasons, but it won't be until the weekend.
From the trumpets, some "little" (but scary) bangs (not now, but if I put back the fuel gain to 71)

From the exhaust I have flames, only on warmup. (or bangs if I put back to 71)


Anyway I'll go to Portofino Lotus7 meeting this weekend (keeping the 85 fuel gain, as the car runs good), than back to mechanical to fix some leaks from the gearbox and differential service maybe.

calimerus

Original Poster:

27 posts

116 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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UPDATE:

Now the car runs great.

Only one strange thing: we set to 1000 rpm x 85 fuel gain x 11 kgs for couple

After the first run the car went to 1200 rpm and about 13 kgs per couple of trumpets. The load site still remained 0 with 0.45v.

I don't know if it happened due to some correction map or simply the coils cleaned up.

Aniway it starts good and runs good and worked good for all the weekend.

Should I have to lower the minimum to 1000 or I can leave it like that?


Edited by calimerus on Tuesday 30th September 08:38

DomiC

5 posts

114 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Hello IBDAET and calimerus,

if you don't mind, I will join your discussion ;-) I also own a 2004 Caterham R400. In the winter months I will upgrade the engine a little bit (wasted spark double coil, extensive head porting, bigger inlet valves...). For this reason I have to change the mapping, too. I already have a wide band lambda sensor which I will install soon.

Calimerus, could you please answer some questions regarding the R400 967 ecu:

1. I will add the programming pins to the engine loom and build the cable this weekend. But what about the password? The ecu should be blocked in stock version. I read 1111 or 1960 as standard PWs. Did it work with you?

2. What about the R400 maps you spoke about? My Cat is quite harsh when cold and a little bit jerking below 2500rpm, most likely due to lean mixture. In higher rpms I guess that it runs a little bit too rich. Have you optimized your map with a wide band sensor?

3. Any other hints?! ;-)

Regards from Germany
Dominik

IBDAET

1,655 posts

263 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Dominik,

The number you require is 8654

calimerus

Original Poster:

27 posts

116 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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8654 also worked for me... and than I removed the pin control.

I haven't checked the A/F yet because in these month I haven't had one free minute to work on the car

DomiC

5 posts

114 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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Hello,

perfect, I hope this PIN will work! Thanks a lot!

What about the alternative maps? Could you please mail me the data? Is the original ignition map quite conservative? Have you tried a little bit more spark advance when using 98 octan fuel?

Regards
Dominik

DomiC

5 posts

114 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Hi,

just a short feedback: IT WORKS!!!!!

I could implement the missing pins in the wiring loom and your passworks works, too. Thaaaanks a lot!

First step was to kick the distributor with double VVC coils (wasted spark) --> Works, too :-)

By the way: Do you have different R400 maps from the rolling road? Would it be possible to provide them to me?

Regards
Dominik


calimerus

Original Poster:

27 posts

116 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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DomiC said:
First step was to kick the distributor with double VVC coils (wasted spark) --> Works, too :-)

By the way: Do you have different R400 maps from the rolling road? Would it be possible to provide them to me?
VVC coils.. It sounds very interesting

Is it difficult to fit that coils?

I was interested on that mood, but I've read "somewere" that will not work good for high revs.


Anyway I still don't have any RR map, only my original with more fuel gain

DomiC

5 posts

114 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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I also heard these rumours regarding VVC coils. But AFAIK they are about the very small EU3 (160HP) coils which are installed beneath the valve cover. I have the big 145HP version (see picture).

With distributor there's only one ignition output to the coil (pin 36). If you have wasted spark this pin feeds coil 1 (cyl. 1&4) and you need a second/new wire on pin 18 for cyl. 2&3 (coil 2). Just change the software settings and that's all! I bought the spare pins from SBD motorsport.

Btw.: Where can I remove the pin control? I didn't find it in the software...

Regards
Dominik

Edited by DomiC on Monday 3rd November 17:40

IBDAET

1,655 posts

263 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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My 260bhp Scholar K runs EU3 coils on wasted spark fine.

DomiC

5 posts

114 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Do you have a 1,9 oder 2,0 litre Scholar block?

IBDAET

1,655 posts

263 months

Saturday 8th November 2014
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1900 Evo 2.