Running too lean

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Brett Nield

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79 posts

127 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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We have a Caterham with well tuned 2 liter Zetec(280 BHP at the flywheel) . It has just decided to run really lean, banging ,farting a the occasional flame. Checked it and found badly cracked exhaust and assumed this was the problem. That's now fixed but still the same .
What does the panel think, any opinions gratefully received

My Evil Twin

457 posts

133 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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fuel pump not pushing enough fuel?

Canuck7

64 posts

129 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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I don't know anything about this specific engine, but since there isn't many answers yet, I'll throw in what I know about the average complicated modern engine. :-)
A damaged oxygen sensor may mess up the fuel ratio for parts of a map and throttle positions that rely on the O2 sensor to adjust the mix.
If you had a big air leak into the exhaust, it may have damaged the sensor.... or your computer may have "learned" an erroneous area of settings due to the leak. Depends on your ECU and all that. A subaru can "learn" to adjust areas of a fuel map by 8% or more, to match feedback from the O2 sensor, for example. When we are tuning a modified Subie, we are happy if the learning stays within 5% of perfect.
I don't know what your engine does in those respects; if it learns or is more primitive. :-)
A mis-aligned throttle sensor can cause the wrongs part of a map to be used as well, but maybe not with such dramatic results.
You could also have a blocked fuel injector, or injector wire damage - if it seems to be running rougher.
A fuel regulator with a bad diaphragm may cause a drop in fuel pressure which will make you run lean...
Bad timing can produce some interesting noises, too.
A MAF sensor scaling going odd from a bad sensor will do wonderful things to fueling, as well.
If you can hook a laptop. or even an OBD II reader into your ECU, that's the place to start. to look for error codes and obviously odd sensor readings.
I once had intermittent shorts in my main O2 sensor harness, and it made the car lurch and surge and pop at low cruising speeds, with AFRs going all over the place. Took ages to track down.

jeffw

845 posts

228 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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What is the spec on the engine? 280BHP NA on a Zetec is immense. Likely to be a Lamda or sensor issue, you need to look at what the ECU is seeing to see if the readings make sense. Coolant temp sensor failure might make it run lean as well.

gregpe

31 posts

166 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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lambda when engine is properly calibrated is only for small correction i would suggest check fuel pressure first..

rort1

44 posts

198 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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or possibly an inlet side air leak - any odd hissing noises?

Brett Nield

Original Poster:

79 posts

127 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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Thanks Panel
The engine was rebuilt by Rick Wood in Stockport, my pal is on the way there now to stick on his diagnostics. Will let the panel know the outcome for future reference.
Many thanks
Brett

Brett Nield

Original Poster:

79 posts

127 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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The fuel potentiometer had gone into default mode. No one seems to know why this happened.

Canuck7

64 posts

129 months

Thursday 3rd September 2015
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Thanks for letting us know what was wrong...
Um, what is a fuel potentiometer? A Throttle position sensor?