New Superlight 20 Limited Edition

New Superlight 20 Limited Edition

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nigelpugh7

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6,038 posts

190 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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Just had information back from Greg at CC that they have now sold 10 of these cars!

That's pretty good going for a limited edition model that was only released just four days ago!

If anyone else is seriously thinking about one,,and can't quite decide I would act quickly to get an order in now.

If they can sell 10 cars in four days, including a weekend period, then they may all be sold by Friday this week! wink

L100NYY

35,208 posts

243 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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I have to admit that I hadn't heard about this model.......until I happened to stroll past the Caterham stand at The Revival on Friday and an old chum that happens to work for Caterham cajoled me into having a proper look.

I was besotted straight away as I owned an original Superlight many years ago prior to my R300 and R400 and I still cite it as one of my favourites. Mine was bare carbon and ali with aeroscreen so obviously the '20' is ticking all my boxes.

As mentioned by a previous poster (I think) the reason behind this particular spec/power/etc was to hark back to as close as possible to the original Superlight spec and was the brainchild of two of the oldguard (sorry if you're reading this chaps hehe ) who have fond memories of the original car too.

I really, really want one and have the brochure to the side of my laptop here wink

Edited by L100NYY on Monday 14th September 11:57

nigelpugh7

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Monday 14th September 2015
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L100NYY said:
I have to admit that I hadn't heard about this model.......until I happened to stroll past the Caterham stand at The Revival on Friday and an old chum that happens to work for Caterham cajoled me into having a proper look.

I was besotted straight away as I owned an original Superlight many years ago prior to my R300 and R400 and I still cite it as one of my favourites. Mine was bare carbon and ali with aeroscreen so obviously the '20'is ticking all my boxes.

As mentioned by a previous poster (I think) the reason behind this particular spec/power/etc was to hark back to as close as possible to the original Superlight spec and was the brainchild of two of the oldguard (sorry if you're reading this chaps smile ) who have fond memories of the original car too.

I really, really want one and have the brochure to the side of my laptop here wink
That's great to hear,,glad it got the juices flowing for you too! wink

Do I smell another order in the offing I wonder?. wink


james7

594 posts

255 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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nigelpugh7 said:
Sorry forgot to answer that, of course lots of pictures will be shared!

Here's one of the under bonnet of the press car at Goodwood yesterday!


That will be a lovely contrast with the black powder coated panels biggrin

ghibbett

1,901 posts

185 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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ash73 said:
It was the sweet 1.6 engine and close 6 speed box combo that made the superlight so compelling, will a Sigma engine rev like the old K series? I do like all the little details, though.
Think the engine is the TI-VCT, so slightly different to my 'standard' Sigma 140, however mine pulls with greater vigour from 5000rpm [than the 125] and pulls hard till 7000rpm, just ever so slightly tailing off to the 7200rpm limiter. It's a great little engine thumbup

nigelpugh7

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Monday 14th September 2015
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ghibbett said:
Think the engine is the TI-VCT, so slightly different to my 'standard' Sigma 140, however mine pulls with greater vigour from 5000rpm [than the 125] and pulls hard till 7000rpm, just ever so slightly tailing off to the 7200rpm limiter. It's a great little engine thumbup
Cheers Grant,

So do we know what the actual differences of the new engine compared to the previous ones?



K800 RUM

352 posts

192 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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Are you having yours painted Nigel?

The car looks fantastic in the photo's but we all know how quickly bare ally tarnishes.

The car seems to be very popular, perhaps there will be a Superlight 20 mk2. wink

K800 RUM

352 posts

192 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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Are you having yours painted Nigel?

The car looks fantastic in the photo's but we all know how quickly bare ally tarnishes.

The car seems to be very popular, perhaps there will be a Superlight 20 mk2. wink

K800 RUM

352 posts

192 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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I would go for paint also.

K800 RUM

352 posts

192 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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ditto

Edited by K800 RUM on Monday 14th September 21:41

L100NYY

35,208 posts

243 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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Mine was driven all year round (bare carbon/ali) and always looked okay.

SKC

49 posts

131 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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ghibbett said:
Think the engine is the TI-VCT, so slightly different to my 'standard' Sigma 140, however mine pulls with greater vigour from 5000rpm [than the 125] and pulls hard till 7000rpm, just ever so slightly tailing off to the 7200rpm limiter. It's a great little engine thumbup
Cheers Grant,

So do we know what the actual differences of the new engine compared to the previous ones?

Hi Nigel,

The Ti-VCT Sigma is the latest generation Sigma featuring Twin Independent Variable Cam Timing. The earlier "fixed cam" sigma has now gone out of production. Caterham have been using this revised engine for several years in their export EU4 models but with a very tame 110bhp. I believe this proven installation from a Ford vehicle was used for this Caterham, in that the installation met EU4 emission regulations when fitted to the Ford vehicle, so it must do when fitted in a Caterham!!
The main differences with this engine are the top end and engine management system used to run the new engine. We've developed a 200bhp version of this engine which is up and running in our Caterham demonstrator which is a similar spec to this new model. We're using a Life Racing Engine Management System to control the engine and the fully functioning VVT, which we've spent many hours developing and the results are very impressive. We'd previously developed a 200bhp fixed cam Sigma which we really liked but the Ti-VCT engine is something else. I've driven many Caterhams, R400s Duratecs, Supersport Rs Duratecs and 2.3 CSR Durtaces and this version of the Ti-VCT just seems much more lively. Again we've lightened the Sigma by a further 8kgs making it 23 kgs lighter than a Duratec, or as Caterham would say nearly 50kgs per ton lighter than an R400. Throttle response and low to mid range rpm drive-ability has been further improved with the VVT. R & D is nearing completion now with new parts being available later this week before final calibration on the rollers this weekend. Anyone purchasing one of these new Caterhams or one fitted with the new Ti-VCT Sigma is welcome to a run out in our car to compare.
Three other versions of this engine will shortly be available from us, an entry level 140bhp, 155bhp and 175bhp. Keep an eye on the forums and the club magazine for further details.



Regards

SKCwavey

nigelpugh7

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6,038 posts

190 months

Tuesday 15th September 2015
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SKC said:
ghibbett said:
Think the engine is the TI-VCT, so slightly different to my 'standard' Sigma 140, however mine pulls with greater vigour from 5000rpm [than the 125] and pulls hard till 7000rpm, just ever so slightly tailing off to the 7200rpm limiter. It's a great little engine thumbup
Cheers Grant,

So do we know what the actual differences of the new engine compared to the previous ones?

Hi Nigel,

The Ti-VCT Sigma is the latest generation Sigma featuring Twin Independent Variable Cam Timing. The earlier "fixed cam" sigma has now gone out of production. Caterham have been using this revised engine for several years in their export EU4 models but with a very tame 110bhp. I believe this proven installation from a Ford vehicle was used for this Caterham, in that the installation met EU4 emission regulations when fitted to the Ford vehicle, so it must do when fitted in a Caterham!!
The main differences with this engine are the top end and engine management system used to run the new engine. We've developed a 200bhp version of this engine which is up and running in our Caterham demonstrator which is a similar spec to this new model. We're using a Life Racing Engine Management System to control the engine and the fully functioning VVT, which we've spent many hours developing and the results are very impressive. We'd previously developed a 200bhp fixed cam Sigma which we really liked but the Ti-VCT engine is something else. I've driven many Caterhams, R400s Duratecs, Supersport Rs Duratecs and 2.3 CSR Durtaces and this version of the Ti-VCT just seems much more lively. Again we've lightened the Sigma by a further 8kgs making it 23 kgs lighter than a Duratec, or as Caterham would say nearly 50kgs per ton lighter than an R400. Throttle response and low to mid range rpm drive-ability has been further improved with the VVT. R & D is nearing completion now with new parts being available later this week before final calibration on the rollers this weekend. Anyone purchasing one of these new Caterhams or one fitted with the new Ti-VCT Sigma is welcome to a run out in our car to compare.
Three other versions of this engine will shortly be available from us, an entry level 140bhp, 155bhp and 175bhp. Keep an eye on the forums and the club magazine for further details.



Regards

SKCwavey
Hi SKC,

Many thanks for that information. Some great details there.

Of course more power would be nice, but at this stage its just nice to think would could be done easily to get more power from the existing unit that will be supplied in our cars.

It's early days to start dreaming about engine upgrades though, but we all like to idly window sop don't we!

Again it will be interesting to see if Caterham themselves come up with any upgrade packs for the new Superlight in the future.

It's nice to know 200 BHP can be achieve from that engine though, I should think they would be awesome in a light Caterham !

Thanks again.,

nigelpugh7

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190 months

Tuesday 15th September 2015
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Some more photos from the factory to share!



Sorry not working again will need to post as separate pictures!


nigelpugh7

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Tuesday 15th September 2015
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Another!


L100NYY

35,208 posts

243 months

Tuesday 15th September 2015
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Looks fantastic Nigel!

But then I would say that really wouldn't I hehehehe

mic

376 posts

233 months

Tuesday 15th September 2015
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What's the cost of the 155 upgrade?

nigelpugh7

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Tuesday 15th September 2015
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Keep getting anti flood messages sorry for all the posts.



nigelpugh7

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Tuesday 15th September 2015
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L100NYY said:
Looks fantastic Nigel!

But then I would say that really wouldn't I hehehehe
Yes indeed! Wise words! winkwink

panickyjabofoppo

52 posts

111 months

Tuesday 15th September 2015
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Regarding the tarnishing of bare ally, is using a clear wrap not an option these days? Wrapping tech has come a long way since '96!