winter tyres

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xcentric

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722 posts

219 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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What tyres would people recommend for typical UK winter motoring - wet, cold, some below zero, some slushy, some wet leaves etc.....


battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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On a 7? Maybe the Uniroyals (RS3) that are well rated but wear quickly. Wear isn't a problem on a 7. Bone hard tyres are. Michelins will last for ever but you'll never wear them out because the car will spend more time in a ditch than on the road.

xcentric

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722 posts

219 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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yep on a 7 - not sure how much I'll use it this winter, but think decent tyres for winter use will allow a wider range of possibilities.....

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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If you don't plan to use it a lot, how about the wet road favourite the Yoko 021R?

I'd definitely not use Yoko 032 or the replacement the 048 in winter, they don't get warm enough and are very slippery.

Aeroscreens

457 posts

226 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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A021Rs are a great all rounder for the 7, I and many others have been using them since time immemorial, but they are no longer sold as a road tyre (not E marked)

Bone Rat

362 posts

163 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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Since the demise of the A021 for road use I swopped to the RS3s on a 14" wheel. Although not quite up to the adhesiveness of the A021 they have been fine on the Welsh roads. As you can expect we have our share of water here. Certainly seem to wear a lot better than the A021 - RS3 still a quantum leap over the original Avons.

No idea about track use but they seem a good compromise for the roads

xcentric

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722 posts

219 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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thanks. looking for road use. So it seems I'll need a set of 14" wheels too then as most are not available in 13's..... rats.

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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The Uniroyals aren't, it seems, but the Yoko 539 is in 185/60/13 (which I imagine is your size, it's a std 7 size) and these are well rated as an all round road legal performance tyre.

HustleRussell

24,654 posts

160 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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There must be a better option than the old A539, which is barely any better than a CR322.

What about 185/70r13 Kumho V70?

xcentric

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722 posts

219 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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Essentially, it's for road use, in the wet and cold - so tyres with winter formulated rubber will be softer in those temperatures, and obviously cut to be good for water displacement. It's a 'standard' superlight on 13" wheels.

Some interesting recommendations, but none seem actually designed for cooler conditions?


battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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If you want a "proper" winter tyre then they are out there. They outperform "summer" tyres when the road temp is below 5C, at the expense of heavier wear and a lesser perfromance when the road is above 5C. How much lesser? Aye, there's the rub. How much will you use it in proper winter conditions? How big a difference will there be? Is this worth less grip when it's 10C and dampish? How long's a piece of string?

Aeroscreens

457 posts

226 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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Winter tyres? Not saying they are not good etc but we all existed without them for many years and didn't crash and burn, just drove to the conditions.....

I reckon even with winter tyres on a 7 you'll still end up in plenty of trouble with a heavy right foot.

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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Aeroscreens said:
Winter tyres? Not saying they are not good etc but we all existed without them for many years and didn't crash and burn, just drove to the conditions.....

I reckon even with winter tyres on a 7 you'll still end up in plenty of trouble with a heavy right foot.
Any 7, any tyres, any road, will get you into trouble if you have a heavy enough foot.

As for winter tyres, bigger wheels mean that we have gone backwards. Standard issue 145R12 tyres on a fiesta performed far better than modern 205 50 affairs of today, I suspect the wider stuff floats on top more.

BertBert

19,025 posts

211 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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You can get vredestein snowtracs in 13 inch

cambuscat

153 posts

171 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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I think I would recommend whatever tyres are fitted to your tintop. The 7 is a pretty miserable drive in the cold and wet and levels of corrosion prevention are pretty poor for salty roads. Visibility and adhesion for acceleration, breaking and cornering mean pussyfooting about. Beyond proving that you can, why bother if you have a choice of car.

BertBert

19,025 posts

211 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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I did 2 winters daily driving in my 90's 7. It was pretty miserable and I pretty much destroyed it. The owner after me sent it back to Caterham to have a bit of panel corrosion done and as they took it apart it fell apart! They bought it from him in the end and put the bits onto a new chassis! Still a happy 7 though to this day. YMMV
Bert

Camoradi

4,287 posts

256 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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battered said:
The Uniroyals aren't, it seems, but the Yoko 539 is in 185/60/13 (which I imagine is your size, it's a std 7 size) and these are well rated as an all round road legal performance tyre.
I'd second this. Currently using 539s and for a low power seven they seem a pretty good choice. I suspect I'll never wear them out and as they age they may lose a bit of their new grip. They have good ability for clearing standing water and decent grip if you are subtle with the loud pedal.