What's the reason for such high prices?

What's the reason for such high prices?

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Zarco

17,868 posts

209 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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PlywoodPascal said:
framerateuk said:
Yep. Inflation is the killer.

Just look at Lotus Elise prices from the MK1 to the 250 Cup (18k in 1996 to 50k last year).
Interestingly the weight went from to 725kg 931kg - a 28% increase. (Price comparison there is/was 177% increase).

S1: £24.82 per kilo
250 Cup: £53.70 per kilo

I buy all my cars by the kilo.
hehe

250 Cup isn't the equivalent base Elise either (in 1996 there was only a base model of course!).

paulrockliffe

15,708 posts

227 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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I find it's more useful to express the per kg cost as per 100 grams.

That way when you're picking up the groceries you can see that a Caterham is only twice the price of a bag of Caramel Chocolate Buttons.

When you put it like that, it seems incredible that I haven't bought one already.

PlywoodPascal

4,186 posts

21 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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Wow that’s an amazing point, both as outright fact (amazing that a car can produced at the same cost as food) but also taking man maths to new levels. It’s a genuine paradigm shift.

paulrockliffe

15,708 posts

227 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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PlywoodPascal said:
Wow that’s an amazing point, both as outright fact (amazing that a car can produced at the same cost as food) but also taking man maths to new levels. It’s a genuine paradigm shift.
I feel we've both learned something profound from this conversation.

BertBert

19,052 posts

211 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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PlywoodPascal said:
Wow that’s an amazing point, both as outright fact (amazing that a car can produced at the same cost as food) but also taking man maths to new levels. It’s a genuine paradigm shift.
But only if you can eat rather a lot of buttons biggrin

paulrockliffe

15,708 posts

227 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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BertBert said:
But only if you can eat rather a lot of buttons biggrin
A 600kg Caterham 7 is 4,000 150g packs of buttons. At a bag a day - eminently feasible - that's essentially 11 years.

If we man-maths that a little further, the Caterham is a 2-seater, so it's 5.5 years per person.

So we can conclude that if you're planning to keep the Caterham for at least 5.5 years, you basically should buy one and just don't buy any chocolate for that period.

As someone that probably should eat more healthily, I feel that this strategy may have some legs and if I can rejig the workshop to accommodate another vehicle that I really don't need, then I may formalise these calculations in an Excel spreadsheet for sign-off.


BertBert

19,052 posts

211 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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Good point, but that's about 750KCal per day. If that's on top of the normal "man-diet", you should budget for the SV model. Or possibly you might expire of obesity before the end of the RoI period. If you reduce your other dietary items to incorporate the 750 KCal, you'll probably expire of malnutrition.

Tricky

Toaster

2,939 posts

193 months

Wednesday 8th November 2023
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BertBert said:
But only if you can eat rather a lot of buttons biggrin
Think you would be carried of in the back of a hearse if you ate that amount of chocolate buttons and if not you wouldn't be able to squeeze in to a 7....

Tin Hat

1,371 posts

209 months

Wednesday 8th November 2023
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They are wildly expensive, my 420R was best part of £60 k with the addition of throttle bodies, a truly stupendous amount.

Having agonized over the significant overall cost, I imagine (based upon nothing more than a hunch) that the supplying dealer and Caterham probably walk off with about 20% of that to keep their organisations afloat/in profit. The saving grace is that at least they depreciate less than an EV……

BertBert

19,052 posts

211 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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Well they are priced at what they can be sold for, nothing to do with cost.

As for profit, Caterham made a loss last year, it'll be interesting to see if they turn a profit this year.

JACOB88

1 posts

5 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Hello everyone,
I also think that the reason for the high price is mainly due to the very low number of vehicles sold, but on the other hand this rarity normally brings us a certain distinction and a certain prestige, and this on condition that we particularly appreciate the model. but in your case, , I think you are comparing it to other vehicles which are certainly pretty and efficient but which do not have this exclusive connotation that the Caterham has. So, yes, compared to a Yaris it's expensive...

radical78

398 posts

144 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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you carnt compare caterham to toyota but compared to radical aerial k t m or b a c mono caterhams suddenly look better value

wyson

2,075 posts

104 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Was reading somewhere Toyota make a loss on every GR Yaris sold, they cost more than £50k to make because so much of it is handbuilt.