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ro55ifumi

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34 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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Hello, looking at buyin my first Caterham, just a quick hello and after looking at a few posts, looks like it could be interesting!!!!!!

What are the classic 7's with the vauxhall 8 valve motors like as a starter??

John

casbar

1,103 posts

216 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Slowsmile

Unless you want an older engine, go for the best car you can afford. A K series SL or if you have more wonga a Rx00 of some sort.

But if you are buying new, then obviously a Duratec car.

There are a couple of good bike engined cars around at the moment too, take a look at www.blatchat.com under salesbiggrin

Whichever car you get, you will want to upgrade, so buy the best spec right at the start.

ro55ifumi

Original Poster:

34 posts

196 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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I have a budget of around 9k, not to worried about big bhp as i intend to use the car with my wife and enjoy Derbyshire and the odd weekend abroad.

I know i'm going to struggle with the 9k but you have to start somewhere :-)

jasgti

40 posts

209 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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you can get a nice westfield with plenty of bhp for 9k!!

i am in exactly the same position with a similar budget , i know the caterham is the real deal and having driven the new sigma engine has made me confirm this but i have been looking and looking for something decent but an old crossflow or cavalier engine just doesnt do it for, now a nice zetec might tempt me

ro55ifumi

Original Poster:

34 posts

196 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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jasgti said:
you can get a nice westfield with plenty of bhp for 9k!!

i am in exactly the same position with a similar budget , i know the caterham is the real deal and having driven the new sigma engine has made me confirm this but i have been looking and looking for something decent but an old crossflow or cavalier engine just doesnt do it for, now a nice zetec might tempt me
My thoughts too, looking at the different sites they seem to be a little more freindly too, less bickering.
I would have thought a new memeber would be welcomed as already stated you have to start somewheresmile

If i could afford a superlight i would!! but you buy what you can afford.

As yet a little dissappointed frown




Edited by ro55ifumi on Thursday 24th January 15:00

Noger

7,117 posts

250 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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All car forums have bickering !

For you budget you are looking at perhaps three options.

1) A decent "original" Crossflow
2) "Original" 8 value Vauxhaul
3) A conversion of some sort

As you can probably tell from the classifieds, the more standard spec "originals" tend to hold their value a little better than something somebody has had a play with. The later may be faster, depends what you are after.

I loved my Crossflow. Was easy to get serviced, had bags of character and an exhaust note (and flames) to die for. Plenty fast enough for road use, and not that bad for a track day. I bought it for just under £12000 15 years ago, from Caterham, so you can tell how well they hold their value. If you bought a decent "proper" Xflow now, it won't drop that much at all, it might even appreciate as they get rarer.

If you are after anything faster (and the vat majority of people get upgraditis at some point, to a varying degree - see Arnie for an extreme case ) or more modern then Westfield should be your next port of call.







ro55ifumi

Original Poster:

34 posts

196 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Noger said:
All car forums have bickering !

For you budget you are looking at perhaps three options.

1) A decent "original" Crossflow
2) "Original" 8 value Vauxhaul
3) A conversion of some sort

As you can probably tell from the classifieds, the more standard spec "originals" tend to hold their value a little better than something somebody has had a play with. The later may be faster, depends what you are after.

I loved my Crossflow. Was easy to get serviced, had bags of character and an exhaust note (and flames) to die for. Plenty fast enough for road use, and not that bad for a track day. I bought it for just under £12000 15 years ago, from Caterham, so you can tell how well they hold their value. If you bought a decent "proper" Xflow now, it won't drop that much at all, it might even appreciate as they get rarer.

If you are after anything faster (and the vat majority of people get upgraditis at some point, to a varying degree - see Arnie for an extreme case ) or more modern then Westfield should be your next port of call.
Cheers Noger a sensible post and thanks , yes i'm looking at an original vauxhall/crossflow not to intersted in track days been there done that on big bikes!!!!

Like the build quality of the caterham against the westfield.

Just looking for a caterham to put a smile on my face!!! and one the wife can drive too.

Should have seen her embarass a few drivers on the rally day i got her in a wrc prodrive!!! she likes her cars too!!!smile

As for servicing John Nobles is only two mins away








Edited by ro55ifumi on Thursday 24th January 15:55

casbar

1,103 posts

216 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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My first Cat was a xflow car. Great bit of kit, you should be able to pick up a decent one for around your 9k budget. There are plenty of cars for sale on here and Autotrader.

Just get someone who knows the mark to have a look at it for you. Buy one with as many bits on as you can, saves on the upgrades. For touring a xflow will be great.

If you see a car you like, someone on here will be glad to give you their views.

ro55ifumi

Original Poster:

34 posts

196 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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casbar said:
My first Cat was a xflow car. Great bit of kit, you should be able to pick up a decent one for around your 9k budget. There are plenty of cars for sale on here and Autotrader.

Just get someone who knows the mark to have a look at it for you. Buy one with as many bits on as you can, saves on the upgrades. For touring a xflow will be great.

If you see a car you like, someone on here will be glad to give you their views.
Thanks for the advice, will give people a shout once i find "the car"

John

jasgti

40 posts

209 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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am i right in taking then a crossflow would better than a vauxhall? , i had a 1600 cavalier it went forever and i thought it would have pulled caterham pretty well , but have heard a few people on this site describe them as slow. i thought poor emissions for mots and lack of engine management on a crossflow would make them a bit harder to set upright?

casbar

1,103 posts

216 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Vx engine is quite a bit heavier than the xflow.

Also a lot of xflow cats are kit built and registered before 1988, therefore, emissions exempt, well visual smoke only.

I have a R300 engine in mine, but because it was registered June 88, its also visual smoke only, so you can tune the engine as you likebiggrin

Tango7

688 posts

227 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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I know where there are two 5 speed Supersprint cars with De Dion suspension for your budget. The Supersprint model had the 135 BHP Xflow engine in and was definitely one of the models to have at the time. One is actually based in Derbyshire if you are based in that area.

PM me if you are interested.

T

Noger

7,117 posts

250 months

Friday 25th January 2008
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ro55ifumi said:
not to intersted in track days been there done that on big bikes!!!!

Like the build quality of the caterham against the westfield.

Just looking for a caterham to put a smile on my face!!! and one the wife can drive too.

Should have seen her embarass a few drivers on the rally day i got her in a wrc prodrive!!! she likes her cars too!!!smile
Even a "mere" smile Crossflow is huge fun on a trackday.

One of my favourite moments with mine was watching Mrs Noger drive mine round Brands Hatch GP, she was pulling away from the Supra behind her on each lap, he he bounce

She didn't drive it much when I started to upgrade, and probably won't when it has the bike engine in it. So "wife friendly" is more the old school stylee. Windscreen and doors, rather than carbon seats and aeroscreens !










ro55ifumi

Original Poster:

34 posts

196 months

Friday 25th January 2008
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Tango7 said:
I know where there are two 5 speed Supersprint cars with De Dion suspension for your budget. The Supersprint model had the 135 BHP Xflow engine in and was definitely one of the models to have at the time. One is actually based in Derbyshire if you are based in that area.

PM me if you are interested.

T
Not sure how to pm you cant find the link, can you e-mail me the contacts details in Derbyshire smile

Thanks

John

snapper seven

713 posts

215 months

Friday 25th January 2008
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This has just come on the market by the looks of things. A more modern K has to be better than an old X-flow (but of course not as good as a 2.0VX! biggrin)

http://www.blatchat.com/t.asp?Id=145381

SS

Noger

7,117 posts

250 months

Friday 25th January 2008
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+1 - sounds like a nice example of a "touring" seven.

Helluvaname

363 posts

208 months

Friday 25th January 2008
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John,
YHPM

ro55ifumi

Original Poster:

34 posts

196 months

Friday 25th January 2008
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Where are the pm's???

Helluvaname

363 posts

208 months

Friday 25th January 2008
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Click on the username, and in the top right of the box is an 'email me' link wink
You should receive the PM in your registered email account, as well as via the link through your own profile.

Helluvaname

363 posts

208 months

Friday 25th January 2008
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Oops, I forgot that on here you don't get PM's via your profile, they just go straight to your registered email address (although you have to have ticked the 'allow members to contact me' or similar box in your profile).