Top Gear - Stiggy and the R500

Top Gear - Stiggy and the R500

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RobM77

35,349 posts

235 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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OJ said:
Trouble getting heat into CR500's in the dry? My race car has 30bhp less and I could overheat them within 10 laps of Brands Indy in October. I could get them properly warmed up on a green flag lap.

More likely the surface was too cold
You might want to look at your setup there. I raced on CR500s for half an hour at a time without ever over-heating them. I've also tested 45 minute sessions without an issue. Mine's a Roadsport A racing Caterham.

dino ferrana

791 posts

253 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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Rumour has it they are having another crack at this week so watch again on Sunday!

sfaulds

653 posts

279 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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RobM77 said:
OJ said:
Trouble getting heat into CR500's in the dry? My race car has 30bhp less and I could overheat them within 10 laps of Brands Indy in October. I could get them properly warmed up on a green flag lap.

More likely the surface was too cold
You might want to look at your setup there. I raced on CR500s for half an hour at a time without ever over-heating them. I've also tested 45 minute sessions without an issue. Mine's a Roadsport A racing Caterham.
CR500s on a C400 (like OJ's talking about) get a considerably harder time than on a Roadsport. That said, they usually start going off on a Roadsport 20 minutes or so in on several tracks.

The stop/start way Top Gear do their laps isn't conducive to getting heat into tyres.

pw75

1,032 posts

199 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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dino ferrana said:
Rumour has it they are having another crack at this week so watch again on Sunday!
I'd be amazed if thats true. Maybe they read the thread........

Like we wouldn't all be watching anyway. wink

Mars

8,717 posts

215 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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RobM77 said:
OJ said:
Trouble getting heat into CR500's in the dry? My race car has 30bhp less and I could overheat them within 10 laps of Brands Indy in October. I could get them properly warmed up on a green flag lap.

More likely the surface was too cold
You might want to look at your setup there. I raced on CR500s for half an hour at a time without ever over-heating them. I've also tested 45 minute sessions without an issue. Mine's a Roadsport A racing Caterham.
I'd also dispute their claim too. On ACB10s in the rain during an Irish tour some 4 years ago I could watch them dry on a petrol station forecourt before I'd finished filling the car up. I doubt I was driving as hard as Stig (although he'd have never kept up with me on the that day wink ).

sfaulds

653 posts

279 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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1 minute and 17 seconds. That's not a lot of time to get heat into a set of tyres and then exploit it, is it?

Mars

8,717 posts

215 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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You don't have to start each attempt with "out of the box" cold tyres though.

sfaulds

653 posts

279 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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Really? My understanding of how it went was that there was sufficient dicking about between each lap to let the very low ambient temperature to do it's work. Of course, it could all just be a conspiracy.

Mars

8,717 posts

215 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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I guess we'll never know. Would be nice to put one on ACB10s round the track in the Summer, just for our interest however I think the result as it stands served the purpose intended very well.

jackal

11,248 posts

283 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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sfaulds said:
Really? My understanding of how it went was that there was sufficient dicking about between each lap to let the very low ambient temperature to do it's work. Of course, it could all just be a conspiracy.
ill try and find out cos matey of mine goes down there for the filming now and again

TG is a power cct isn't it ?

sfaulds

653 posts

279 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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It's all right Rich, I wasn't really guessing tbh.

Rich N

9 posts

189 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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For anybody who doesn't already know, the R500 is back on TopGear this Sunday at 9pm.

pw75

1,032 posts

199 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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RobM77 said:
OJ said:
Trouble getting heat into CR500's in the dry? My race car has 30bhp less and I could overheat them within 10 laps of Brands Indy in October. I could get them properly warmed up on a green flag lap.

More likely the surface was too cold
You might want to look at your setup there. I raced on CR500s for half an hour at a time without ever over-heating them. I've also tested 45 minute sessions without an issue. Mine's a Roadsport A racing Caterham.
haha, setup are you kidding? RSA at 120bhp can overcook the tyres depending how you drive it although I didn't really have too much of a problem, but with 210bhp (thats nearly double maths fans) in what OJ drives I think you can overcook them very easily.

105mph into breaking for paddock in RSA as opposed to 120-130mph in c400. Work out what does the hard work! Obviously actual corner speed is similiar-ish.

I'll side with OJ on this that the surface was the bigger problem.

jackal

11,248 posts

283 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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sfaulds said:
It's all right Rich, I wasn't really guessing tbh.
gotcha beer




p.s. bought that E30 M3 you wanted yet ?

jackal

11,248 posts

283 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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Rich N said:
For anybody who doesn't already know, the R500 is back on TopGear this Sunday at 9pm.
cool .. who told you ?

can only be to set a better time i suppose

RobM77

35,349 posts

235 months

Saturday 13th December 2008
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Fair comments about the CR500s yes My two Caterhams have been 120bhp and 156, so I've not run a more powerful one anywhere near 200bhp.

Can't wait to see the R500 again. Surely it's been just as cold if not colder, so I guess it was the faffing between laps and this time they'll only stop briefly.

Rich N

9 posts

189 months

Saturday 13th December 2008
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jackal said:
Rich N said:
For anybody who doesn't already know, the R500 is back on TopGear this Sunday at 9pm.
cool .. who told you ?

can only be to set a better time i suppose
I think it's quite well known now. Can't wait to see what they do.

CanAm

9,232 posts

273 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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jackal said:
Rich N said:
For anybody who doesn't already know, the R500 is back on TopGear this Sunday at 9pm.
cool .. who told you ?

can only be to set a better time i suppose
See here for the answer, straight from the horse's mouth.

jackal

11,248 posts

283 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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Woooooooooooooohhhhhhhhoooooooooooooo


cant wait

1.16... it should waste those supercars standing on its head

pw75

1,032 posts

199 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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Delighted its on again. Lets hope for some serious super car slaying.