DVLA looking at modified cars and retro issuing a Q plate?

DVLA looking at modified cars and retro issuing a Q plate?

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P.Nott

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227 posts

190 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Has anybody heard about this? Looking at another forum they suggest that if you have modified the chassis in any way so it is not to original specification and DVLA find out they can inspect and re register your car with a Q plate.furious

I dont know to what extent the modifications need to be but it is worrying if true. I was thinking about getting back in to sevens after being without for 2 years with a basic old shed then modifying and re building in to a bike engine car. This would obviously involve chassis modifications so might fall in to the same category that requires re registering and a Q plate.

Any information about this?

croftsj

369 posts

239 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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Even if the chassis was modified for a bike engine the vehicle would remain a 2 seat Convertible as per the V5 in the case of a Caterham or an 'Open Sports' in the case of a kit car?

BertBert

19,066 posts

212 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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It doesn't change the type, just that the chassis has been modded after SVA.

Bert

Murph7355

37,755 posts

257 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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With the amount of changes and variations over time on the 7 chassis, I'd be very impressed if anyone employed by the DVLA could tell!

In fact, I'd be very surprised if anyone employed by this government would know if you changed the wheels to tracks and put a great big gun on it!

P.Nott

Original Poster:

227 posts

190 months

Friday 20th March 2009
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It seems that up until recently the normal rules did apply but not necessarily any longer. The report was on blatchat and basically said that there were two Caterham owners who were having there cars investigated by DVLA who had gotten the evidence they needed from the owners own website. The owners concerned had gone into great detail on there website about what mods they had done to the cars and as a result DVLA were going to inspect the cars and possibly re register with a Q plate.
Ive found it here take a look.

http://www.blatchat.com/t.asp?id=166319

I was wondering if anybody else in the kit car world has been affected by this.
Scary if its true.

Gingerbread Man

9,171 posts

214 months

Friday 20th March 2009
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Wasn't one of the cars the green and orange zip?

P.Nott

Original Poster:

227 posts

190 months

Friday 20th March 2009
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You might be right GM. Ive just found this on google eek


"Seemingly my car is under investigation by the DVLA so sorry, but I have had to take the website down."
www.the-webbs.com/k2rum/k2home.htm



Edited by P.Nott on Saturday 21st March 07:41

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Gingerbread Man said:
Wasn't one of the cars the green and orange zip?
Couldn't happen to a nicer person

Gingerbread Man

9,171 posts

214 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Seems K2RUM may be up for sale.

BertBert

19,066 posts

212 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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er Q2RUM?

P.Nott

Original Poster:

227 posts

190 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Q2RUM doesnt really have the same ring to it does it.smile Hes been trying to sell his car for a long time and this wont help. Back to more serious matters though if the DVLA succeed in re registering that car it does have potentialy serious consequences for any kit car owners who like to develop and modify there own pride and joy. I might have to re consider my own plans until it is sorted out.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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So asides from having easier MOTs and you can't have a prat plate could someone explain the exact problem of having a Q plate is?

If your paperwork supports exactly what the car is then why get all bothered about a small piece of plastic that is on the front of the car

Gingerbread Man

9,171 posts

214 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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thinfourth2 said:
So asides from having easier MOTs and you can't have a prat plate could someone explain the exact problem of having a Q plate is?

If your paperwork supports exactly what the car is then why get all bothered about a small piece of plastic that is on the front of the car
From my limited knowledge, Q plates bring with them a stigma. People prefer to buy an age registered car and therefore I think a Q plate can take a slight toll on the resale value.

I think the emissions are tested differently on an MOT and you can't have a private plate with a Q.

P.Nott

Original Poster:

227 posts

190 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Reading the thread on blatchat it appears to suggest the car may need to be SVAd and re registered. I would think its the SVA for an older car that is the more difficult issue rather than not being able to have a prat plate. Although a Q plate is often thought to place a lower value on the car as well.
It will be interesting to see what happens in this particular case for many reasons. I bet hes gutted.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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Gingerbread Man said:
thinfourth2 said:
So asides from having easier MOTs and you can't have a prat plate could someone explain the exact problem of having a Q plate is?

If your paperwork supports exactly what the car is then why get all bothered about a small piece of plastic that is on the front of the car
From my limited knowledge, Q plates bring with them a stigma. People prefer to buy an age registered car and therefore I think a Q plate can take a slight toll on the resale value.

I think the emissions are tested differently on an MOT and you can't have a private plate with a Q.
Oh i know about the value thing but why are Q plates less valuable

BertBert

19,066 posts

212 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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presumably it stems from the days when kit cars were fibreglass bodies bolted onto old beetles and escorts and were really, really st! All they could get were Q plates.

I feel a little sorry for dear old K2rum, mind you, does it count as ironic in the Alanis Morissette sense?

Bert

P.Nott

Original Poster:

227 posts

190 months

Monday 23rd March 2009
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thinfourth2 said:
Gingerbread Man said:
thinfourth2 said:
So asides from having easier MOTs and you can't have a prat plate could someone explain the exact problem of having a Q plate is?

If your paperwork supports exactly what the car is then why get all bothered about a small piece of plastic that is on the front of the car
From my limited knowledge, Q plates bring with them a stigma. People prefer to buy an age registered car and therefore I think a Q plate can take a slight toll on the resale value.

I think the emissions are tested differently on an MOT and you can't have a private plate with a Q.
Oh i know about the value thing but why are Q plates less valuable
Snobbery. Nothing more nothing less.

Edited by P.Nott on Monday 23 March 07:36

Noger

7,117 posts

250 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Somewhat of a worry.

Although the OP in the Blatchat thread is never shy of making mountains out of molehills, and thinking they are the sole arbiter in mountain/molehill identification decisions. So I take the whole "shush, they are all out to get us" tinfoil hat stuff with a pinch of salt.

Where is Mr. Webb when you need him ?

smile

Murph7355

37,755 posts

257 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Noger said:
Where is Mr. Webb when you need him ?

smile
No doubt stuck prone on a formica bench in Swansea being anally probed by the DVLA to see if he's been modified biggrin

Noger

7,117 posts

250 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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smile

"Just checking your rear jacking point, brace yourself now boyo".