Duratec engine seized!!!

Duratec engine seized!!!

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echoone

Original Poster:

26 posts

187 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Sumped my R400 on a cats eye last week. Stopped straight away and got recovered home. Just replaced sump and refilled with oil but won't turn over. tried jump starting but rear rear wheels just lock up. So engine seized. Anybody got any ideas as what work might need doing to engine and costs??? Totally gutted, just as the weather was starting to improve!!!

nigelpugh7

6,046 posts

191 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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one of the guys from our local seven club did just the same to his r400 duratec recently.

He stopped immediately too.

We have had the sump off and there is no sign of any damage to the internals, and he did not loose that much oil, and had no loss of oil pressure either.

How much oil did you loose? and did you loose oil pressure at all?

We are replacing his sump, but they are not in stock at the moment.

We plan to put it back together and run it, and are not expecting any real dramas.

If your engine seized then it probably has done damage to the cams and bearings as well as the main bearings too.

Nige.

stripy7

806 posts

188 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Sounds unlikely- you can run an engine for quite a few minutes before it seizes.

echoone

Original Poster:

26 posts

187 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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I stopped almost immediately, but watched as the oil pressure dropped. It dropped about a liter on the recovery truck on the way home. But didn't try to start it until I replaced the sump and refilled with oil etc, so the only thing that could have caused the engine to seize it the loss of oil. Nothing else has happened other than this and prior the car was running sweet and only has 5500 miles on the clock.

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Saturday 21st March 2009
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Sorry to hear about that. I did the same thing on my Superlight R. I was able to claim on the insurance as a consequence of the incident being classified as "impact damage". Dave Spragg at MSN was enormously helpful to me in resolving this, so if you're insured through them you are a lucky man.

echoone

Original Poster:

26 posts

187 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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I'm insured through Caterham Insurance, so I'm hoping they will cover the claim as impact damage. It's just a pain. At least it should go to an authorized Caterham Mechanic to get fixed.

BertBert

19,100 posts

212 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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There was the incident where an owner of a legacy R500 ran over a bag of cement, sucked it up into the engine. And to cut a rather torrid story short his insurance paid for the 7.5k minister rebuild!

Bert

jackal

11,248 posts

283 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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BertBert said:
There was the incident where an owner of a legacy R500 ran over a bag of cement, sucked it up into the engine. And to cut a rather torrid story short his insurance paid for the 7.5k minister rebuild!

Bert
and for an R500 that was cheap I wold have thought

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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BertBert said:
legacy R500

Bert
What's a legacy R500? a Caterham left to someone in a will?

BertBert

19,100 posts

212 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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rubystone said:
What's a legacy R500?
It's used in modern parlance as a demeaning term for something that's been superceeded biggrin

Bert

echoone

Original Poster:

26 posts

187 months

Monday 23rd March 2009
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Spoke to insurance this morning. Initially where a bit funny but then seemed okay about accepting it as an accident claim. Just waiting for a call back to see which garage they want to send it to. Hopefully it'll go to Caterham midlands.

BertBert

19,100 posts

212 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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echoone said:
Spoke to insurance this morning. Initially where a bit funny but then seemed okay about accepting it as an accident claim. Just waiting for a call back to see which garage they want to send it to. Hopefully it'll go to Caterham midlands.
Excellent news.

Bert

BertBert

19,100 posts

212 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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echoone said:
Spoke to insurance this morning. Initially where a bit funny but then seemed okay about accepting it as an accident claim. Just waiting for a call back to see which garage they want to send it to. Hopefully it'll go to Caterham midlands.

johnnyddaman

23 posts

191 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Hey, I'm planning on buying a Cat in the near future and I'm a bit worried about all this catseye talk!

What do you guys do when theres roadkill?!

Johnny

sjmmarsh

551 posts

221 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Know where your sump is and try to get the roadkill to go between the sump and the wheels, preferably on the side opposite where the exhaust comes out.

Also applies (if not more so) to piles of horse muck in the road.

Steve

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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I see you are in scotland

If it is the north of scotland catseyes are not a problem up here as ours are recessed in the road so they don't get scalped by snowploughs

Steve-B

713 posts

283 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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I don't worry about it to be honest. Pheasant cooks very well on the silencer under the cover for you sir smile

Never hit anything while we had the car in Oz for 3+ years, was always cringing about hitting a Wombat which are as dense as lead and rip the guts out of a 4x4. Never saw a 'roo so would say don't worry about the wildlife, let Darwinism worry about it.

And if you're worried about clearance, get a dry-sump -- not bulletproof if you low-fly and crunch down on it, but better than a rather large pan under your engine ;-)

johnnyddaman said:
Hey, I'm planning on buying a Cat in the near future and I'm a bit worried about all this catseye talk!

What do you guys do when theres roadkill?!

Johnny

David Long

1,216 posts

180 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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I've been running a R400 with no problems. The bottom wishbones are set horizontal and it has 15 inch tyres (which I think works out about 1cm lower than spec). A bit of caution is needed over speed bumps but it is no worse than other cars I've driven.

Edit: also Scotland based (Cumbernauld)

Edited by David Long on Wednesday 21st October 22:49

johnnyddaman

23 posts

191 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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thinfourth2 said:
I see you are in scotland

If it is the north of scotland catseyes are not a problem up here as ours are recessed in the road so they don't get scalped by snowploughs
Haha! The things you learn about catseyes!

I'm in Glasgow. But spend most "driving" time on the West coast.

I've said to a friend that when I finally get my hands on a Cat, I'm gonna take a week off work, go up to Kinlochleven and do laps of the B863 for the whole time! Driving Nirvana biggrin

Edited by johnnyddaman on Tuesday 20th October 21:53

Irrotational

1,577 posts

189 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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I have done a couple "laps" of the kinlochleven road - tis good fun!