MIssing Cylinder

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Captain Spoons

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187 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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Have a 1700 XFlow Supersprint with a mysterious problem!!
Missing on Cylinder 3- but getting good spark from NEW plug, much head scratching going on!!!, any ideas in a "idiots guide" sense, gratefully recieved.
Cheers!!

The Wookie

13,950 posts

228 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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You should be able to find it between Cylinders 2 and 4.

HTH

fergus

6,430 posts

275 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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Is it actually missing, or have you got an air leak on the induction side on #3? Does the plug tip look pale or very sooty? The plug tip colour would be my first point of call. Is it missing under idle or only under load?

Captain Spoons

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Monday 14th December 2009
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Its missing from start up, plugs look ok to be honest

fergus

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275 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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Captain Spoons said:
Its missing from start up, plugs look ok to be honest
Have you tried swapping the plg leads between cylinders to eliminate the basics, such as a duff lead. Are all the plugs the same heat range, with the same gap on them?

Captain Spoons

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Monday 14th December 2009
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Fraid so, 4 new spark plugs from caterham and leads all ok- have been swapping between them all weekend- always #3 that is the problem.

davidball

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202 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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Have you done a compression test on the cylinders?
What carbs do you have?
I had a similar problem a few months back on #2 cylinder. Turned out to be low compression due to a worn head gasket and badly seating valves.

Edited by davidball on Monday 14th December 13:10

sam919

1,078 posts

196 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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Has it a single coil, or a pack like the Rover k.

Captain Spoons

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187 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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car is on twin 40 DCOE webers, regarding peassure test- my tiny mechanical brain is working against me on this- how do i do that?
the coil is a single one- standard classic SE car with supersprint engine

Captain Spoons

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Monday 14th December 2009
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car had new head gasket about 500 miles ago and had carbs balanced 50 miles ago approx- if that rules anything out?

bikemonster

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241 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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Captain Spoons said:
car is on twin 40 DCOE webers, regarding peassure test- my tiny mechanical brain is working against me on this- how do i do that?
the coil is a single one- standard classic SE car with supersprint engine
Hook up a compression gauge on each cylinder in turn and spin the motor.

I wouldn't be too worried about the size of the numbers, but ideally all cylinders should produce a similar number.

If one cylinder is markedly down on the other three, you can do a "wet" test by adding some oil to the errant cylinder and re-testing. If the number improves, then the problem is rings/bore. If it doesn't improve then the problem is likely to be valve-related or head gasket related.

James

StEVEN7

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193 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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Does sound like a compression issue, it also maybe worth doing a head gasket test to see if it was done properly...annoying isn't it!!banghead

mickrick

3,700 posts

173 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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Sounds like a valve sticking to me.scratchchin As has already been said, do a compression check.

Captain Spoons

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Monday 14th December 2009
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thanks for the wise words, will limp to a garage as dont have a compression test thingy!!