Discussion
Eric Mc
You're probably right in saying that Caterham woiuldn't be producing it today. S4 is much more dificult to Produce & maintain/work on than the Basic/simple/cheep S3.
One important point though which everyone forgets is that Caterham re-manufactured the S3 from not a lot, I suggest this give the idea of replicas to budding Kitcar manufacturers such as westfield and robin hood in the 1980's and more recently to the Locost varients of the 7.
Had the S4 not been discontiued when it was. would any of these Budding Kit car manufacturers, ever dreamt of re-introducung a car which had been killed off by Lotus in 1970?? Personally I doubt it.
Intriguing question - we'll never know the answer
Mal
You're probably right in saying that Caterham woiuldn't be producing it today. S4 is much more dificult to Produce & maintain/work on than the Basic/simple/cheep S3.
One important point though which everyone forgets is that Caterham re-manufactured the S3 from not a lot, I suggest this give the idea of replicas to budding Kitcar manufacturers such as westfield and robin hood in the 1980's and more recently to the Locost varients of the 7.
Had the S4 not been discontiued when it was. would any of these Budding Kit car manufacturers, ever dreamt of re-introducung a car which had been killed off by Lotus in 1970?? Personally I doubt it.
Intriguing question - we'll never know the answer
Mal
Eric Mc
You're Dead right, however no beach buggy or Bond Bug goes or handles like an S4, so the comparison is rather unfair, the only thing IMO that the S4 has in common with the them is the 70's colours they were all dressed up in.
Nowadays however like it or loathe it the S4 is a rather rare car, and mine always attracts attention be it good or bad which can't be a bad thing
At least people notice it, and most know what it is unlike the myriad varieties of S3 which are very hard to distinguish [between a caterham & robin hood]
Mal
You're Dead right, however no beach buggy or Bond Bug goes or handles like an S4, so the comparison is rather unfair, the only thing IMO that the S4 has in common with the them is the 70's colours they were all dressed up in.
Nowadays however like it or loathe it the S4 is a rather rare car, and mine always attracts attention be it good or bad which can't be a bad thing
At least people notice it, and most know what it is unlike the myriad varieties of S3 which are very hard to distinguish [between a caterham & robin hood]
Mal
Mike
I've heard 34 mentioned from 2 different sources - though how that figure was obtained is uncertain.
Well here's a car that I believe now lives in Scotland
The unusual colour scheme was apparantly chosen by an Austrian Ski Instructor who owned the car for many years
It's certainly different - I bet the 'Saxo' brigade are real envious
I've heard 34 mentioned from 2 different sources - though how that figure was obtained is uncertain.
Well here's a car that I believe now lives in Scotland
The unusual colour scheme was apparantly chosen by an Austrian Ski Instructor who owned the car for many years
It's certainly different - I bet the 'Saxo' brigade are real envious
Eric Mc
You absolutely spot on - My time with the HLR forum was Hummmm
Caterahm owners can be difficult and BC has several bullyboys under the management teams control
But most local Caterham owners suffer my car without too much complaint - one person excepted
But hey who gives a toss about those
losers.
You absolutely spot on - My time with the HLR forum was Hummmm
Caterahm owners can be difficult and BC has several bullyboys under the management teams control
But most local Caterham owners suffer my car without too much complaint - one person excepted
But hey who gives a toss about those
losers.Mike
Wow that seems a lot - maybe they are known to JW but are they on the road?
How many have you seen since you've owned your car? I've taken photo's of all the cars I've seen, not that many really evenat 50th bash there were only 5 - S4's Brian Sopers, Swiss guy, Grumpy sod with the blue car, blue & silver car, and mine
DO you ever see any at le mans?
Mal
Wow that seems a lot - maybe they are known to JW but are they on the road?
How many have you seen since you've owned your car? I've taken photo's of all the cars I've seen, not that many really evenat 50th bash there were only 5 - S4's Brian Sopers, Swiss guy, Grumpy sod with the blue car, blue & silver car, and mine
DO you ever see any at le mans?
Mal
Nice post - First I've heard or seen of that carMike
Because the exhaust is on the drivers side It's where & how he's fitted the handbrake that's the big Q IMO
DIff will be OK
Front Brakes are Identical on S4 to those currently fitted to Caterham, so Big brake upgrade no Problem, Rear drums are easyish to swop for the current Caterham Sierra disks.
Rear suspension will be a major problem due to the torque of Duratech, though it's only really a problem with regards to tyre wear, and lack of room for larger section tyres.
He'd have to have fitted a type 9 style gearbox for the power/torque output.
Where did he get the Exhaust & manifold made it's still rear exit
It also has CSR style front wings.
Guess the guy spent rather a long time & money on his creation
Mal
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Just noticed Another Aeroscreened S4
Because the exhaust is on the drivers side It's where & how he's fitted the handbrake that's the big Q IMO
DIff will be OK
Front Brakes are Identical on S4 to those currently fitted to Caterham, so Big brake upgrade no Problem, Rear drums are easyish to swop for the current Caterham Sierra disks.
Rear suspension will be a major problem due to the torque of Duratech, though it's only really a problem with regards to tyre wear, and lack of room for larger section tyres.
He'd have to have fitted a type 9 style gearbox for the power/torque output.
Where did he get the Exhaust & manifold made it's still rear exit
It also has CSR style front wings.
Guess the guy spent rather a long time & money on his creation
Mal
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Just noticed Another Aeroscreened S4
Edited by S47 on Friday 12th March 17:07
Eugene7
I recognise the Reg number of that car though I can't find any photo's of it in my PC?
Oh well I did manage to find some more pics of S4's
Recently was contacted for Zetec fit info by a guy in NZ, that'll be 4 Zetec powered S4's I know of and also Dieter7S4's posted Duratec S4
Anyone know of any any other S4's with decent modern engines fitted into them?
Mal
I recognise the Reg number of that car though I can't find any photo's of it in my PC?
Oh well I did manage to find some more pics of S4's
Recently was contacted for Zetec fit info by a guy in NZ, that'll be 4 Zetec powered S4's I know of and also Dieter7S4's posted Duratec
S4Anyone know of any any other S4's with decent modern engines fitted into them?
Mal
t-stirring on PH, if so go back to BC. Hey guys cool it, we don't want PH to get like BC.
Anyone who knows me personally - I'm sure will vouch for the fact that I'm always ready for a Joke or prank, and I'm as thick skinned as they come, Unfortunately on BC the other posters are quite willing to take the piss out of you but, if you try to retaliate they CRY & report you to the 'Management team' who immediately AND without any prior warning withdraw your posting rights, it happened to me several times It also happened to many others who I know are now on PH, Until they remove several of the BC 'M team' things on BC won't improve SO save your money subscribing to L7 club & lets make PH caterham forum exactly what BC ought to be
[Arewetheryet]If you want to take the piss out of me or my posts - Ok I can live with that,[and I have a very long memory regarding this] but can you live with me taking the piss out of your posts or you - WITHOUT crying?? Coz once I start taking the piss out of you I won't be stopping, as plenty on BC discovered.
Let me know
Mal
Anyone who knows me personally - I'm sure will vouch for the fact that I'm always ready for a Joke or prank, and I'm as thick skinned as they come, Unfortunately on BC the other posters are quite willing to take the piss out of you but, if you try to retaliate they CRY & report you to the 'Management team' who immediately AND without any prior warning withdraw your posting rights, it happened to me several times
It also happened to many others who I know are now on PH, Until they remove several of the BC 'M team' things on BC won't improve SO save your money subscribing to L7 club & lets make PH caterham forum exactly what BC ought to be[Arewetheryet]If you want to take the piss out of me or my posts - Ok I can live with that,[and I have a very long memory regarding this] but can you live with me taking the piss out of your posts or you - WITHOUT crying?? Coz once I start taking the piss out of you I won't be stopping, as plenty on BC discovered.
Let me know
Mal
Arewethereyet
Sorted:thunmbup:
Hope to see you on one of the Taffia Blats this year
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Strongy
Welcome to the darkside on PH
Good to talk to you last night, and good to know you're not permanently in Work
Surprised nobody in the Taffia told about you back problem, maybe they all thought I'd take the P
Glad you're back up and fit again.
Hope to see you Blatting soon
Mal
Sorted:thunmbup:
Hope to see you on one of the Taffia Blats this year
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Strongy
Welcome to the darkside on PH
Good to talk to you last night, and good to know you're not permanently in Work
Surprised nobody in the Taffia told about you back problem, maybe they all thought I'd take the P
Glad you're back up and fit again.
Hope to see you Blatting soon
Mal
Here's a pic of one of the fastest & most famous racing S4's - KVX 189J
The one that forced Caterham to get the Lotus 7 S4 banned from the Lotus 7 racing series
Why? It was too fast
At 15 years old - driven and financed by a privateer it was beating all the New Caterham factory sponsored S3's in the LOTUS 7' race series - Just think how good the S4 could have been had it been developed as much as the S3 has been.
The one that forced Caterham to get the Lotus 7 S4 banned from the Lotus 7 racing series
Why? It was too fast
At 15 years old - driven and financed by a privateer it was beating all the New Caterham factory sponsored S3's in the LOTUS 7' race series - Just think how good the S4 could have been had it been developed as much as the S3 has been.
Well I Really don't know what to say:-
Today at Stoneleigh Kit Car Show a very kind person left a fantastic boxed Matchbox Model S4 Lotus 7 in my favouirite colour of Orange on the drivers seat of my car :Thumbup:
Too whoever left the model thank you - thank you - thank you very much, or as we say in Wales - Ta Muchly
Then would you believe what happened next::>
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My wife buys a Matchbox model of an S4 too !!!
This time in Yellow from one of the traders in the Stoneleigh halls which I'd missed.
Anybody own one in Blue and can post a picture on this thread??
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See the photo's below:>
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Good to finally meet Eugene7 too:
Today at Stoneleigh Kit Car Show a very kind person left a fantastic boxed Matchbox Model S4 Lotus 7 in my favouirite colour of Orange on the drivers seat of my car
:Thumbup:Too whoever left the model thank you - thank you - thank you very much, or as we say in Wales - Ta Muchly
Then would you believe what happened next::>
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My wife buys a Matchbox model of an S4 too !!!
This time in Yellow from one of the traders in the Stoneleigh halls which I'd missed.
Anybody own one in Blue and can post a picture on this thread??
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See the photo's below:>
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Good to finally meet Eugene7 too
:EFA
I didn't know they owned the rights to the S4 - Many thanks for that snippet of Info'
They've had most S4's parts 'ex stock [including some I never expected to be able to obtain] & I know they can get most parts for an S4 made, [sidescreens & windscreen surround being the exceptions] though sometimes you may have to wait a while
Mal
I didn't know they owned the rights to the S4 - Many thanks for that snippet of Info'
They've had most S4's parts 'ex stock [including some I never expected to be able to obtain] & I know they can get most parts for an S4 made, [sidescreens & windscreen surround being the exceptions] though sometimes you may have to wait a while
Mal
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