Discussion
James P said:
ali_kat said:
DDs hasn't died, just the threads for it 
- mainly due to the b
hing that started to take place in them about it being 'cliquey' - then the ones that made the fuss started another drinking session elsewhere... Dates for the Christmas DDs are being discussed at the moment 
You might want to read that back to yourself. - mainly due to the bhing that started to take place in them about it being 'cliquey' - then the ones that made the fuss started another drinking session elsewhere... Dates for the Christmas DDs are being discussed at the moment You're saying it isn't cliquey but then say that threads are no longer on PH and the dates for the Christmas DD's are being discussed privately? Sounds like it is just a private group arranging drinks to me.
There is nothing wrong with that (everyone does it after all) but don't pretend they are open to everyone. Drinks arranged by round robin emails or FB groups are not by definition open to all-comers.
ali_kat said:
EG - there was a LOT of anti BTaP feeling last year because of the Watches - it gave over the impression that BTaP was for those that could afford to drop a few £k on a watch over dinner; which it isn't.
For some balance, I loved Watchfinder being there - I thought it fitted the evening well. They were open to you trying thigs on and enjoying, rather than a hard sales pitch, with no expectation of buying there and then.Wear black tie, dress up and try on a fancy watch is great fun.
TonyHetherington said:
ali_kat said:
EG - there was a LOT of anti BTaP feeling last year because of the Watches - it gave over the impression that BTaP was for those that could afford to drop a few £k on a watch over dinner; which it isn't.
For some balance, I loved Watchfinder being there - I thought it fitted the evening well. They were open to you trying thigs on and enjoying, rather than a hard sales pitch, with no expectation of buying there and then.Wear black tie, dress up and try on a fancy watch is great fun.
IIRC, Watchfinder are a site sponsor and therefore probably contributed to the free bar.
James P said:
ali_kat said:
DDs hasn't died, just the threads for it - mainly due to the bhing that started to take place in them about it being 'cliquey' - then the ones that made the fuss started another drinking session elsewhere... Dates for the Christmas DDs are being discussed at the moment
You might want to read that back to yourself. - mainly due to the bhing that started to take place in them about it being 'cliquey' - then the ones that made the fuss started another drinking session elsewhere... Dates for the Christmas DDs are being discussed at the moment You're saying it isn't cliquey but then say that threads are no longer on PH and the dates for the Christmas DD's are being discussed privately? Sounds like it is just a private group arranging drinks to me.
There is nothing wrong with that (everyone does it after all) but don't pretend they are open to everyone. Drinks arranged by round robin emails or FB groups are not by definition open to all-comers.
There are no threads for DDs. There is one discussion in a group about it being a free for all because someone was told that his wife wasn't allowed
There are no round robin emails, the only reason I know anything about it is because I was trying to see some of my friends before Christmas as I knew I wasn't coming to BTaP.It has returned to it's original state as being the last Thursday of the month with no threads.
As you know DDs Christmas has always moved as it falls awkwardly & the date has always been discussed & agreed by those in DDs in October.
Podie said:
TonyHetherington said:
ali_kat said:
EG - there was a LOT of anti BTaP feeling last year because of the Watches - it gave over the impression that BTaP was for those that could afford to drop a few £k on a watch over dinner; which it isn't.
For some balance, I loved Watchfinder being there - I thought it fitted the evening well. They were open to you trying thigs on and enjoying, rather than a hard sales pitch, with no expectation of buying there and then.Wear black tie, dress up and try on a fancy watch is great fun.
IIRC, Watchfinder are a site sponsor and therefore probably contributed to the free bar.
I'm just reporting what I saw in the forums (and heard elsewhere - Little Miss Social hat back on )
Soz - O/T
I could probably buy a Lambo with what I'm 'saving'. 
I've emailed Litchfield to get a proper, real-world cost including dampers/handling, zorst, wheels, tyres, etc in time for Spring 2014. Still some time off for me but I'm in no hurry - unlike Bill and you.
Podie said:
LordGrover said:
I've quit drinking which is pretty much BTaP's raison d'être so I'm probably an exception. 
Saving for the supercharger for the '86? I could probably buy a Lambo with what I'm 'saving'. I've emailed Litchfield to get a proper, real-world cost including dampers/handling, zorst, wheels, tyres, etc in time for Spring 2014. Still some time off for me but I'm in no hurry - unlike Bill and you.
LordGrover said:
Soz - O/T
I could probably buy a Lambo with what I'm 'saving'.
I've emailed Litchfield to get a proper, real-world cost including dampers/handling, zorst, wheels, tyres, etc in time for Spring 2014. Still some time off for me but I'm in no hurry - unlike Bill and you.
Yeah, well it's not my money Podie said:
LordGrover said:
I've quit drinking which is pretty much BTaP's raison d'être so I'm probably an exception.
Saving for the supercharger for the '86? I could probably buy a Lambo with what I'm 'saving'. I've emailed Litchfield to get a proper, real-world cost including dampers/handling, zorst, wheels, tyres, etc in time for Spring 2014. Still some time off for me but I'm in no hurry - unlike Bill and you.
PoleDriver said:
James P said:
ali_kat said:
DDs hasn't died, just the threads for it - mainly due to the bhing that started to take place in them about it being 'cliquey' - then the ones that made the fuss started another drinking session elsewhere... Dates for the Christmas DDs are being discussed at the moment
You might want to read that back to yourself. - mainly due to the bhing that started to take place in them about it being 'cliquey' - then the ones that made the fuss started another drinking session elsewhere... Dates for the Christmas DDs are being discussed at the moment You're saying it isn't cliquey but then say that threads are no longer on PH and the dates for the Christmas DD's are being discussed privately? Sounds like it is just a private group arranging drinks to me.
There is nothing wrong with that (everyone does it after all) but don't pretend they are open to everyone. Drinks arranged by round robin emails or FB groups are not by definition open to all-comers.
ali_kat said:
Dates for the Christmas DDs are being discussed at the moment
Indeed they do.
I really don't think this is about cliques or suchlike, more as mentioned before, organisation, marketing and timing. There will always be different groups in any larger gathering (and sniping and all that goes with 'my friend says X Y Z...'). So what, it's an occasion for people to meet, (ok, drink strawpedoes very very badly..) and have a good time.
As soon as it's laced with an 'agenda' other than that, it becomes tarnished with one upmanship and backbiting - not needed, not necessary and detracting from the underlying ethos of PH.
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I really don't think this is about cliques or suchlike, more as mentioned before, organisation, marketing and timing. There will always be different groups in any larger gathering (and sniping and all that goes with 'my friend says X Y Z...'). So what, it's an occasion for people to meet, (ok, drink strawpedoes very very badly..) and have a good time.
As soon as it's laced with an 'agenda' other than that, it becomes tarnished with one upmanship and backbiting - not needed, not necessary and detracting from the underlying ethos of PH.
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ali_kat said:
James P said:
ali_kat said:
DDs hasn't died, just the threads for it - mainly due to the bhing that started to take place in them about it being 'cliquey' - then the ones that made the fuss started another drinking session elsewhere... Dates for the Christmas DDs are being discussed at the moment
You might want to read that back to yourself. - mainly due to the bhing that started to take place in them about it being 'cliquey' - then the ones that made the fuss started another drinking session elsewhere... Dates for the Christmas DDs are being discussed at the moment You're saying it isn't cliquey but then say that threads are no longer on PH and the dates for the Christmas DD's are being discussed privately? Sounds like it is just a private group arranging drinks to me.
There is nothing wrong with that (everyone does it after all) but don't pretend they are open to everyone. Drinks arranged by round robin emails or FB groups are not by definition open to all-comers.
There are no threads for DDs. There is one discussion in a group about it being a free for all because someone was told that his wife wasn't allowed
There are no round robin emails, the only reason I know anything about it is because I was trying to see some of my friends before Christmas as I knew I wasn't coming to BTaP.It has returned to it's original state as being the last Thursday of the month with no threads.
As you know DDs Christmas has always moved as it falls awkwardly & the date has always been discussed & agreed by those in DDs in October.
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