RE: Crazy Corsa Smashes 'Ring Record

[jas16]

i'm not very good with times, so how does this relate to other cars of similar power?

[pbirkett]

jas16 said:

i'm not very good with times, so how does this relate to other cars of similar power?

Dunno... but isnt this the same car that was beaten around the fifth gear test track by a clio 197?

[dotdog]

No more cred, but the driver deserves a victoria cross

[Bada Bing!]

Chist the car does not look comfortable at all. The driver deserves a medal, but the car is bottoming out all over the place!

[Supervet]

[quote=beefcake#42]Bit inaccurate, this particular Corsa blows, as do all the diesels, it's only the NA petrols that suck.



Dave
[/quote]

i think corsa'a both suck and blow...which is difficult to do.
[/quote]

Now where's my girlfriend?!!!

[Panayiotis]

just wondering if the car is running track rubber....after spending saturday at bedford in a friends fwd fiat coupe with cut slicks, I am amazed how much they transform a car, especially on a track.

I agree though, car was on the ragged edge in the clips shown, and the driver had BIG cahones.

[egg1000]

Hmmm,

This post from the Mazda forums:-
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11...
from 2003 suggests that the civic type-r did the ring in 8.47 in November 2001. Assuming it was less that 8.47.99, surely the type-r still holds the record?

Maybe a race is necessary, perhaps they could use the face lifted 2004 type-r, which I believe was a tad quicker than both the 2001 and new 2007 type-r?

Hang on, the S3 is a hatchback too, thats down as 8.41, and again from 1999!!

New record I think not!

[EDLT]

This is just the lull before the aftermarket dump valve storm.

WHUMP-PTISH WHUMP-PTISH down your favorite housing estate every night.

[AMD87]

egg1000 said:

Hmmm,

This post from the Mazda forums:-
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11...
from 2003 suggests that the civic type-r did the ring in 8.47 in November 2001. Assuming it was less that 8.47.99, surely the type-r still holds the record?

Maybe a race is necessary, perhaps they could use the face lifted 2004 type-r, which I believe was a tad quicker than both the 2001 and new 2007 type-r?

Hang on, the S3 is a hatchback too, thats down as 8.41, and again from 1999!!

New record I think not!

those are hot hatchs though and the article refers to superminis so wouldnt they mean the record for superminis?

[Craivold]

I think they do mean the record for superminis but I guess the point is it's no longer a supermini in the original sense. The EP3 Civic Type R weighs 1200kg and that is labelled a regular hot hatch so the fact this Corsa weighs in at about the same and is labelled a 'supermini' is a bit of a joke. I have to admit I've got a real hatred for these cars. Any car firm that pays Sean Paul for his music to use on their adverts is in trouble.... C'MON!!

[Volte]

Direct link to the Video of the whole Corsa OPC/VXR lap here:

http://livestream.innovationmecom.de/popup_opc.php

or,

This is the main website:

http://www.opc-racecamp.de

from here click on the blue box with with hazard edges and the text "Manuel Reuter auf Rekordjagd", its next to the pic of the blue corsa to get to the video...

Oh, and cheers for this Hobbsie

Edited by Volte on Thursday 30th August 01:42

[900T-R]

Craivold said:

I have to admit I've got a real hatred for these cars.

I always wondered why people hate inanimate objects that they don't have any dealings with, themselves. I mean, I like a lot of cars, I love quite a few, lots of others leave me cold... but actively hate? c'mon...

Craivold said:

Any car firm that pays Sean Paul for his music to use on their adverts is in trouble.... C'MON!!

Ah, I see your point now...

[Penguinracer]

That's an impressive drive. Anyone can take a a 996TT or 997TT & drive it in a "point & squirt" style to get a reasonable time, but it takes good judgment & guts to carry the maximum possible apex speed round the 'Ring in a low powered car with limited grip - respect is due!

[Pesty]

Respect is due. Vauxhall makes good cars.

Funny thing all of a suden poeple started hating Vauxhalls after clarksons rant on top gear about the Vectra.

Hot Vauxhalls have always been good value and great alrounders most current VXR's are fantastic.

Its just badge snobery and following the crowd mentality to hate a badge. I could be wrong thing is it makes second hand vauxhalls a bargain so I aint complaining

Edited by Pesty on Thursday 30th August 16:36

[egg1000]

Craivold said:

I think they do mean the record for superminis but I guess the point is it's no longer a supermini in the original sense. The EP3 Civic Type R weighs 1200kg and that is labelled a regular hot hatch so the fact this Corsa weighs in at about the same and is labelled a 'supermini' is a bit of a joke. I have to admit I've got a real hatred for these cars. Any car firm that pays Sean Paul for his music to use on their adverts is in trouble.... C'MON!!

My mistake, Supermini not Hot hatch.

Thank you for not jumping all over me and making me look stupid for my mistake! I agree with your point though... what IS the difference between a Supermini and Hot hatch? So, as I have nothing better to do, I have researched it!

The wheelbase' of these two machines are almost identical as well as all the other obvious similarities (according to Parkers). However the length of the Corsa is 1mm under 4 metres so I thought, perhaps thats the criteria for supermini?

Wheelbase....

• Type-r = 2575
• Corsa = 2511mm

Overall Length....

• Type-r = 4140mm
• Corsa = 3999mm

Then I found this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_classification

And I read the following......
"Current supermini hatchbacks are approximately 3900 mm long"
(So the Corsa is a tad longer than the approximate classification, and)
"4250 mm long in case of hatchbacks"
(So the Type-R a tad shorter than the classification).
AND furthermore......
"A hot hatch or sport compact is a high-performance small car, usually a hatchback, based on standard superminis or small family cars with improved performance".

So, (if wikipedia is to be believed) they're BOTH hot hatches!

It's no record breaker in my eyes, they've just finally caught up! I would expect a 192bhp smaller car to be quicker!

I won't be on the waiting list.

[jd5]

It's a Vauxhall.. nothing will make it better!

[Pesty]

jd5 said:

It's a Vauxhall.. nothing will make it better!

You would turn your nose up at a VX220 and a VXR8?

For that matter the VXR astra and Vectra are bloody good too.

So what does a man with such badge snobery drive jd5?

[havoc]

Pesty said:

jd5 said:

It's a Vauxhall.. nothing will make it better!

You would turn your nose up at a VX220 and a VXR8?

The first is a Lotus, badge not withstanding. The second is a Holden, badge not withstanding. Both have ability, image and cachet because of what they are underneath, not because of anything Vauxhall have done...


The Astra VXR is very quick but unrefined and unruly, the Vectra I really don't want to drive...280bhp through the front wheels strikes me as overkill...


...trying to think of the last truly good 'proper' Vauxhall (i.e. not imported and re-badged) as a driver's car...and I'm going to have to go back as far as the hot Chevette (HSR?), believe it or not...

[patmahe]

Credit where credit is due, can't be a bad car if its quick around there. Well done Opel/Vauxhall. Earns it a few points in my book.

[havoc]

patmahe said:

Credit where credit is due, can't be a bad car if its quick around there.

Erm...power+grip+stiff-enough suspension = quick 'ring time. Doesn't necessarily make a good car...

...I said it a couple of pages back...EVERYONE is obsessed by the Nordschleife...and I just don't understand why...cars are becoming over-tyred* and over-powered just to get better 'ring times, and their fun-factor (in the real world) is falling as a result!!!

• I bet this is running on something like 205-215-225/40/17s. Minimal-sidewall over-wide tyres just to give it more grip, rather than engineer-in a decent chassis to give good grip AND good progression!!!