Ford to reveal next generation Mustang on 5 Dec 2013

Ford to reveal next generation Mustang on 5 Dec 2013

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irocfan

40,418 posts

190 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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finally seen a pic of the new mustang which doesn't look like total gash (or should it now be known as 'the g-word'?)


Dinoboy

2,499 posts

217 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Will this be RHD?

irocfan

40,418 posts

190 months

Wednesday 21st May 2014
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Dinoboy said:
Will this be RHD?
next year

croyde

22,875 posts

230 months

Thursday 22nd May 2014
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Available late 2015 in the UK.

Actually only 130 for Britain and preorder is this Sat only during the Champions League game.

So anyone going for it having not seen it in the flesh or having driven it?

Will they all be snapped up and sold on for more as they are gonna be pretty rare?

Hellbound

2,500 posts

176 months

Friday 23rd May 2014
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croyde said:
Available late 2015 in the UK.

Actually only 130 for Britain and preorder is this Sat only during the Champions League game.

So anyone going for it having not seen it in the flesh or having driven it?

Will they all be snapped up and sold on for more as they are gonna be pretty rare?
Late 2015? Someone over on Jalopnik mentioned they'd seen a trailer with 7 black 2015 Mustangs on it over in Germany. Why would there be such a huge time gap between initial cars being delivered at dealerships and customers taking delivery?

Even if he was mistaken, I still think a 12+ months difference between US and UK deliveries is huge.

Guess I'd have more time to save up. Perhaps even buy two! biggrin

Edited by Hellbound on Friday 23 May 19:15

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Friday 23rd May 2014
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Production starts in August and they're bound to try and satisfy as much US demand as possible before worrying about other markets.

irocfan

40,418 posts

190 months

Friday 23rd May 2014
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Hellbound said:
croyde said:
Available late 2015 in the UK.

Actually only 130 for Britain and preorder is this Sat only during the Champions League game.

So anyone going for it having not seen it in the flesh or having driven it?

Will they all be snapped up and sold on for more as they are gonna be pretty rare?
Late 2015? Someone over on Jalopnik mentioned they'd seen a trailer with 7 black 2015 Mustangs on it over in Germany. Why would there be such a huge time gap between initial cars being delivered at dealerships and customers taking delivery?

Even if he was mistaken, I still think a 12+ months difference between US and UK deliveries is huge.

Guess I'd have more time to save up. Perhaps even buy two! biggrin

Edited by Hellbound on Friday 23 May 19:15
meet LHD market demand first - ws ever thus for us

Hellbound

2,500 posts

176 months

Saturday 24th May 2014
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irocfan said:
meet LHD market demand first - ws ever thus for us
There are quite a few RHD markets so I think the production line will be seamlessly interchangeable between LHD and RHD cars. That's how these things work right?

Let's however say you're right. We know that RHD cars have already been built or are soon to be built for the Champions League Final promotion. Would it not be possible then...in theory...for someone to walk into an American/Canadian Ford dealer and order a RHD Mustang? Sort of in the same way Brits could walk into a VW dealer in Belgium and order a RHD VW Golf because it was cheaper?

Whether or not it would work out more expensive or cheaper is unknown as we don't know the UK RRP yet.

I don't see why it wouldn't be possible. If anything US dealers (or even EU dealers) would love to sell you a tax/duty free car for export, regardless of where the steering wheel is. Heck, some of you LHD die-hards can just buy a LHD Mustang over in Belgium, drive it home to Blighty and order a solid rear axle/live axle kit from the US. Bingo; Mustang nirvana!

Edited by Hellbound on Saturday 24th May 04:11

Roo

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207 months

Saturday 24th May 2014
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I haven't seen anything about RHD Mustangs being spotted anywhere.

The launch tonight is a pre-order process only. If you manage to get on the list Ford will contact you next week and the car is due to be released here sometime next year and you're very limited as to what you can order.

US dealers aren't allowed to sell tax free for export, it's against their franchise agreements.

Hellbound

2,500 posts

176 months

Saturday 24th May 2014
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Roo said:
I haven't seen anything about RHD Mustangs being spotted anywhere.
Nor have I. The cars spotted in Germany were obviously LHD.

kippax

2,788 posts

249 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Had response today to confirm I'm past stage one of being one of the people who can get one when launched (registered interest in V8 convertible during CL final)

Think I'll go down used Aston route instead tbh.


croyde

22,875 posts

230 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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So as you have pre ordered, did they give you prices?

kippax

2,788 posts

249 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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No this stage was just to register interest.

Regiment

2,799 posts

159 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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I've poked around online and it seems a few UK people have left deposits for the new Mustang, popped into my local Evan Halshaw to see what they knew and they won't be touching he Mustang at all, haven't heard anything but might be able to order one much later.

Is it only the large Ford dealerships that carry information on the new Mustang or is it purely for those 500 that were able to pre-order through the football promotion?

LuS1fer

41,132 posts

245 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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I suppose it depends on what engines are being offered and whether that turbo-4 will appear elsewhere. back in 1998 when GM sold the Camaro and Vette here, only certain dealerships got the franchise to sell the cars because they had to have the diagnostic equipment and the trained mechanics to service the car and sort out any issues. Given the sales that transpired, I suspect many got burnt, shelling out for the equipment and training on such a low volume model.

I'm sure that many Ford dealers will be sceptical about the sales likely to arise. I know I would.
The other issue is the teething problems you tend to get with new models.
The 2005 Mustang was pretty bulletproof, from the off and Ford are pretty good in terms of reliability but the turbo-4 is a new engine in a new car. The V6 and V8 have had no issues but who knows....

croyde

22,875 posts

230 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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When I popped into my local Ford dealer they were clueless about the Mustang. The young salesman warned me that it was a big car "As big as that Focus ST out the front" he said. hehe

Regiment

2,799 posts

159 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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LuS1fer said:
I suppose it depends on what engines are being offered and whether that turbo-4 will appear elsewhere. back in 1998 when GM sold the Camaro and Vette here, only certain dealerships got the franchise to sell the cars because they had to have the diagnostic equipment and the trained mechanics to service the car and sort out any issues. Given the sales that transpired, I suspect many got burnt, shelling out for the equipment and training on such a low volume model.

I'm sure that many Ford dealers will be sceptical about the sales likely to arise. I know I would.
The other issue is the teething problems you tend to get with new models.
The 2005 Mustang was pretty bulletproof, from the off and Ford are pretty good in terms of reliability but the turbo-4 is a new engine in a new car. The V6 and V8 have had no issues but who knows....
The rumours are that the new Focus RS will be getting the 2.3 ecoboost and I always thought that the big American V8s were pretty simple and bullet proof anyway?

LuS1fer

41,132 posts

245 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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Regiment said:
The rumours are that the new Focus RS will be getting the 2.3 ecoboost and I always thought that the big American V8s were pretty simple and bullet proof anyway?
Yes, they are but a dealership still has to effectively lose a technician to get trained up by Ford HQ and be able to deal with all the diagnostics "just in case". given they are likley to sell maybe one V8 a month - maybe a year, would you? Being bulletproof doesn't mean they can pass on the training. In addition, it will have a bespoke manual/auto gearboxes, rear axle etc and you have to know how to dismantle them and so forth.

I anticipate that the generic Ford UK diagnostic equipment can be programmed with the Mustang data though Ford have always claimed they can't diagnose any of the last Mustangs.

The Ford V6 is no longer simple. The V8 is uncomplicated but nothing like as simple or compact as the Chevy pushrod LS engine.

The other issue is going to be having to stock parts although I imagine some sort of central depot will exist but that parts will still have to come in from the US.

One of the attractions of the imported Mustang is no warranty to bust your b*lls over and the necessity of modifying the sh*t out of it. I simply can't see Ford UK embracing this traditional approach to personalising Mustangs or owners importing their own upgrades from the US. the more I even think about it, the more I'd import a LHD car because I'd invaildate the warranty within a week.

Regiment

2,799 posts

159 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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Thank you for the reply, I've been nosing at the Camaro as well as a US import, but I was looking at the Mustang purely because of it being Right Hand Drive and it'd have all of the warranty, etc as backup. I'd be so tempted though if I did get the UK RHD version, to immediately change the tail lights, the door mirrors though don't bother me too much.

LuS1fer

41,132 posts

245 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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To be honest, RHD may be a bonus but I am more interested in whether Ford will be obliged to service the warranty on imported LHD cars.