Reduced Power Output for Rhd Mustangs

Reduced Power Output for Rhd Mustangs

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Broda

139 posts

106 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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Hold on a second!

No strut brace?
No additional gauges (3 air vents instead)?

The rear tail lights have annoyed me a lot and the talk of the fog lights being DRLs (may have misheard)

MuscleSaloon

1,548 posts

175 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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Broda said:
Hold on a second!

No strut brace?
No additional gauges (3 air vents instead)?

The rear tail lights have annoyed me a lot and the talk of the fog lights being DRLs (may have misheard)
Not sure where you've been but all very old news I'm afraid! Anyone with their eyes open and a little common sense had a good idea many months ago, like early this year, that the UK cars were highly unlikely to have the Performance Pack i.e. strut brace, additional gauges etc. and that there would be very limited available options.

And a big LOL at people moaning about the 5 bhp drop!

1000aceman

47 posts

110 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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Are you gloating Ade ?

I suspect thats where i'm going with all this ????? US import ???

1000aceman

47 posts

110 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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If you read the whole post its not the 5bhp drop its the whole damn thing ! thats just another nail in the coffin

Quinny

Original Poster:

15,814 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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I'm glad I started this thread nowyes

If loads of you cancel your orders, those of us that are happy to stick with it might get our cars that bit soonerbiggrin

AdeTuono

7,251 posts

227 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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1000aceman said:
Are you gloating Ade ?

I suspect thats where i'm going with all this ????? US import ???
No, not gloating at all. I scratched the Mustang itch a few years ago when I had a Rousch. I hope it lives up to your expectations.

I've never really 'got' why people clamoured & waited for a European model. It was always going to be a watered-down version of the US model. There are enough importer/dealers out there who will source, warrant & IVA whatever you want, and generally no waiting times either.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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AdeTuono said:
No, not gloating at all. I scratched the Mustang itch a few years ago when I had a Rousch. I hope it lives up to your expectations.

I've never really 'got' why people clamoured & waited for a European model. It was always going to be a watered-down version of the US model. There are enough importer/dealers out there who will source, warrant & IVA whatever you want, and generally no waiting times either.
If you're happy with LHD.

AdeTuono

7,251 posts

227 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Centurion07 said:
AdeTuono said:
No, not gloating at all. I scratched the Mustang itch a few years ago when I had a Rousch. I hope it lives up to your expectations.

I've never really 'got' why people clamoured & waited for a European model. It was always going to be a watered-down version of the US model. There are enough importer/dealers out there who will source, warrant & IVA whatever you want, and generally no waiting times either.
If you're happy with LHD.
I am. I've got four at the moment, and it's never once caused a problem in 35-odd years of driving. But that subject has been done to death on here before.

bigkeeko

1,370 posts

143 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Broda said:
Stig,

5BHP is enough, you will feel it, especially on drivability and responsiveness along the curve
On a 400+hp car?

I`ve read some pish on here over the years but this takes the biscuit.

Evolved

3,564 posts

187 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Broda said:
I work for RedBull Milton Keynes, I am a fully qualified engineer also, 1BHP is very noticeable, READ above! The curve is the same (apparently) and read my concernes above regarding testing and the figures we've been given, also 5BHP at the peak will be even more noticeable!
You are joking right and I need a woosh parrot?


Quinny

Original Poster:

15,814 posts

266 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Centurion07 said:
AdeTuono said:
No, not gloating at all. I scratched the Mustang itch a few years ago when I had a Rousch. I hope it lives up to your expectations.

I've never really 'got' why people clamoured & waited for a European model. It was always going to be a watered-down version of the US model. There are enough importer/dealers out there who will source, warrant & IVA whatever you want, and generally no waiting times either.
If you're happy with LHD.
I wouldn't buy a LHD car at any price.......I also wouldn't want a grey import......if Mustang wasn't coming to the UK, I'd have probably just bought an older Jag XKR, or possibly a Masserati at roughly the cost of the brand new officially supplied Mustangsmile

MuscleSaloon

1,548 posts

175 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Quinny said:
I'm glad I started this thread nowyes

If loads of you cancel your orders, those of us that are happy to stick with it might get our cars that bit soonerbiggrin
Could even see some early price discounting if Ford start to get worried? Damn they'll be wishing they hadn't announced that big 5 bhp drop hehe

AdeTuono

7,251 posts

227 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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Quinny said:
Centurion07 said:
AdeTuono said:
No, not gloating at all. I scratched the Mustang itch a few years ago when I had a Rousch. I hope it lives up to your expectations.

I've never really 'got' why people clamoured & waited for a European model. It was always going to be a watered-down version of the US model. There are enough importer/dealers out there who will source, warrant & IVA whatever you want, and generally no waiting times either.
If you're happy with LHD.
I wouldn't buy a LHD car at any price.......I also wouldn't want a grey import......if Mustang wasn't coming to the UK, I'd have probably just bought an older Jag XKR, or possibly a Masserati at roughly the cost of the brand new officially supplied Mustangsmile
Then you'll be consigned to lesser (IMO) Euro models if you want a US car. Your loss...

foliedouce

3,067 posts

231 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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AdeTuono said:
Quinny said:
Centurion07 said:
AdeTuono said:
No, not gloating at all. I scratched the Mustang itch a few years ago when I had a Rousch. I hope it lives up to your expectations.

I've never really 'got' why people clamoured & waited for a European model. It was always going to be a watered-down version of the US model. There are enough importer/dealers out there who will source, warrant & IVA whatever you want, and generally no waiting times either.
If you're happy with LHD.
I wouldn't buy a LHD car at any price.......I also wouldn't want a grey import......if Mustang wasn't coming to the UK, I'd have probably just bought an older Jag XKR, or possibly a Masserati at roughly the cost of the brand new officially supplied Mustangsmile
Then you'll be consigned to lesser (IMO) Euro models if you want a US car. Your loss...
Horses for courses I guess, but I'm with Quinny on this one, I would not be buying a LHD Mustang. The RHD maybe a 'lesser' model but on a personal level I'm prepared to make that sacrifice to get a RHD car, especially as there is so much after market stuff that can be done to get it to the spec you want.

sumpoil

431 posts

164 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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AdeTuono said:
Quinny said:
Centurion07 said:
AdeTuono said:
No, not gloating at all. I scratched the Mustang itch a few years ago when I had a Rousch. I hope it lives up to your expectations.

I've never really 'got' why people clamoured & waited for a European model. It was always going to be a watered-down version of the US model. There are enough importer/dealers out there who will source, warrant & IVA whatever you want, and generally no waiting times either.
If you're happy with LHD.
I wouldn't buy a LHD car at any price.......I also wouldn't want a grey import......if Mustang wasn't coming to the UK, I'd have probably just bought an older Jag XKR, or possibly a Masserati at roughly the cost of the brand new officially supplied Mustangsmile
Then you'll be consigned to lesser (IMO) Euro models if you want a US car. Your loss...
It's a 'loss' if you're into American cars, which I'm not and never have been. It hasn't been my life-long desire to own one and I couldn't care less that I've ordered a 'Mustang' - what I've ordered is a very cool-looking, (and by all accounts) very capable car, that is different from anything else out there and isn't German.

The issue is that the spec has been slowly, bit by bit, eroded over the last 12 months. When I first thought about ordering a Mustang (about this time last year) the information was that there would be a limited model range (V8 and ecoboost) with limited options, but the V8 would have the US performance pack. Since then small bits and pieces have slowly been chipped off the spec (most of the performance pack and also other stuff like ACC and blind spot assist), right up until the latest letter from Ford informing us that the car has lost another 5bhp and no cars will be delivered this side of 2016. This disappointing situation has been further compounded by the fact that Ford and their dealers have been unbelievably awful in their treatment of customers who are about to lash out £35k on a Ford. US spec or UK spec, Ford should have done a much better job. That's why people are picensoredd off.

Quinny

Original Poster:

15,814 posts

266 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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AdeTuono said:
Then you'll be consigned to lesser (IMO) Euro models if you want a US car. Your loss...
I don't see it as a lesser model.......it's still a 400+ BHP RWD coupe with lots of presence for well under £40k....

The only loss if there wasn't a RHD version would be Fords, as I suspect many folk like me would have spent their cash on something elsesmile

hman

7,487 posts

194 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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demand to see its Deoxyribonucleic acid immediately , I reckon they cant produce any from the car.

1000aceman

47 posts

110 months

Monday 24th August 2015
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It's a 'loss' if you're into American cars, which I'm not and never have been. It hasn't been my life-long desire to own one and I couldn't care less that I've ordered a 'Mustang' - what I've ordered is a very cool-looking, (and by all accounts) very capable car, that is different from anything else out there and isn't German.

The issue is that the spec has been slowly, bit by bit, eroded over the last 12 months. When I first thought about ordering a Mustang (about this time last year) the information was that there would be a limited model range (V8 and ecoboost) with limited options, but the V8 would have the US performance pack. Since then small bits and pieces have slowly been chipped off the spec (most of the performance pack and also other stuff like ACC and blind spot assist), right up until the latest letter from Ford informing us that the car has lost another 5bhp and no cars will be delivered this side of 2016. This disappointing situation has been further compounded by the fact that Ford and their dealers have been unbelievably awful in their treatment of customers who are about to lash out £35k on a Ford. US spec or UK spec, Ford should have done a much better job. That's why people are pid off.

Here Here !! my point in a nutshell

Broda

139 posts

106 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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Torque was also affected now 387lbs/ft not 400lbs/ft

Lost 5BHP & 13lbs/ft

Zero7

510 posts

183 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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1000aceman said:
It's a 'loss' if you're into American cars, which I'm not and never have been. It hasn't been my life-long desire to own one and I couldn't care less that I've ordered a 'Mustang' - what I've ordered is a very cool-looking, (and by all accounts) very capable car, that is different from anything else out there and isn't German.

The issue is that the spec has been slowly, bit by bit, eroded over the last 12 months. When I first thought about ordering a Mustang (about this time last year) the information was that there would be a limited model range (V8 and ecoboost) with limited options, but the V8 would have the US performance pack. Since then small bits and pieces have slowly been chipped off the spec (most of the performance pack and also other stuff like ACC and blind spot assist), right up until the latest letter from Ford informing us that the car has lost another 5bhp and no cars will be delivered this side of 2016. This disappointing situation has been further compounded by the fact that Ford and their dealers have been unbelievably awful in their treatment of customers who are about to lash out £35k on a Ford. US spec or UK spec, Ford should have done a much better job. That's why people are pid off.

Here Here !! my point in a nutshell
Point well made, I couldn't give a crap about 5bhp, you won't notice it on day to day driving. What does concern me is the crap level of communication form Ford and the watering down of spec, I'm not always on forums checking to see what has changed but my understanding was that the performance pack had things like gauges etc. .so not overly impressed with reduced spec.