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V8 GRF

6,803 posts

97 months

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Tuesday 23rd August 2011 quote quote all
DonkeyApple said:
0b is the only mystery. V8 Grf may be correct but both those cars were on the NEC motorshow stand together for 2 years in a row. The first year the 0a was badged as a T400 and the 0b as a T440 and then the year after they were both badged as T440s.

If you look at the video on YouTube of Martin Brundle driving 0b around Goodwood I am pretty certain that it only has 2 seats. Originally, this was an option as it made room for a larger fuel tank for racing.
Ah right I wasn't aware that they'd been seen together so I must be wrong. I wonder then if both these cars ended up as De Walt promo vehicles or as suspected the Fleetwood one was cut up?

Podie

41,670 posts

162 months

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Which car did Tomlinson have?

V8 GRF

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97 months

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Podie said:
Which car did Tomlinson have?
The car currently for sale at Str8six.


DonkeyApple

17,411 posts

56 months

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Tuesday 23rd August 2011 quote quote all
V8 GRF said:
DonkeyApple said:
0b is the only mystery. V8 Grf may be correct but both those cars were on the NEC motorshow stand together for 2 years in a row. The first year the 0a was badged as a T400 and the 0b as a T440 and then the year after they were both badged as T440s.

If you look at the video on YouTube of Martin Brundle driving 0b around Goodwood I am pretty certain that it only has 2 seats. Originally, this was an option as it made room for a larger fuel tank for racing.
Ah right I wasn't aware that they'd been seen together so I must be wrong. I wonder then if both these cars ended up as De Walt promo vehicles or as suspected the Fleetwood one was cut up?
We know that one was cut up but I've assumed it was the very original one with the different rear end as it was the prototype and would have had to have been destroyed?

I've a photo somewhere of them together. I think it's been posted in this forum as well. I'll try and find it.

2 'Europeans' were at Chatsworth and they claimed that there was a car just like the charcoal Typhons in Austria. There is a chance that they were refering to 0b as NS has been residing in Austria but at the time I actually thought they were confused and were thinking of the green Sagaris II.

De Walt had 2 promo cars. The red 0a which is currently sitting in RG and also that wierd shell with stick on lights, black plastic glass and solid axels that was used on the HMS Invinvible photoshoot. Again, if you look closely at that photo it leaps out at you that that wasn't a real car but just a shell mocked up.

There is also the remains of a shell that Plasticman was fitting over a Cerbera chassis?

Chris R should know what happened to the Fleetwood Bronze car?

BCA

8,605 posts

144 months

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Tuesday 23rd August 2011 quote quote all
V8 GRF said:
The car currently for sale at Str8six.
eek I didn't think she would ever sell it??

£150k is alot of money, but it is a rare car indeed. I'd love it, but not got the funds right now or for the forseeable. frown
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V8 GRF

6,803 posts

97 months

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Tuesday 23rd August 2011 quote quote all
DonkeyApple said:
We know that one was cut up but I've assumed it was the very original one with the different rear end as it was the prototype and would have had to have been destroyed?

I've a photo somewhere of them together. I think it's been posted in this forum as well. I'll try and find it.

2 'Europeans' were at Chatsworth and they claimed that there was a car just like the charcoal Typhons in Austria. There is a chance that they were refering to 0b as NS has been residing in Austria but at the time I actually thought they were confused and were thinking of the green Sagaris II.

De Walt had 2 promo cars. The red 0a which is currently sitting in RG and also that wierd shell with stick on lights, black plastic glass and solid axels that was used on the HMS Invinvible photoshoot. Again, if you look closely at that photo it leaps out at you that that wasn't a real car but just a shell mocked up.

There is also the remains of a shell that Plasticman was fitting over a Cerbera chassis?

Chris R should know what happened to the Fleetwood Bronze car?
I asked Chris iirc he couldn't remember.

The Gereen Sag II is in Saudi or Dubai ( I can't remember where it went) after NS gave it to someone in an attempt to impress them.

I don't think NS has a T car.

Podie

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162 months

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Wednesday 24th August 2011 quote quote all
V8 GRF said:
My opinion FWIW is that this car is overpriced especially as it's been rebuilt after a rather hefty shunt.
Hefty shunt?

DonkeyApple

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Wednesday 24th August 2011 quote quote all
V8 GRF said:
DonkeyApple said:
0b is the only mystery. V8 Grf may be correct but both those cars were on the NEC motorshow stand together for 2 years in a row. The first year the 0a was badged as a T400 and the 0b as a T440 and then the year after they were both badged as T440s.

If you look at the video on YouTube of Martin Brundle driving 0b around Goodwood I am pretty certain that it only has 2 seats. Originally, this was an option as it made room for a larger fuel tank for racing.
Ah right I wasn't aware that they'd been seen together so I must be wrong. I wonder then if both these cars ended up as De Walt promo vehicles or as suspected the Fleetwood one was cut up?
http://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/past_events/motorshow_2002.asp

Looks like it was NEC 2002 that they were both together.

V8 GRF

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Podie said:
Hefty shunt?
Yep it was laid up for several years after it was crashed quite heavily by a photographer who was uninsured I believe. It was sitting in the Ginetta factory for some time with grass hanging out of the backend and all the panels sitting inside it.
I took a picture but I can't find it at the moment.

RedSpike66

2,194 posts

99 months

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Wednesday 24th August 2011 quote quote all
Is it really worth £150k even if it hadn't had a shunt ??

Seems a huge amount of money for a brand that has, shall we say, special appeal ?? By that I mean limited/educated in that there is a huge percentage of PetrolHeads/Collectors that would never buy a TVR, and only a small percentage of us who love them and appreciate them..

Even the wonderful Sagaris struggles to sell over 40K, certainly in the current climate.

BCA

8,605 posts

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Wednesday 24th August 2011 quote quote all
RedSpike66 said:
Is it really worth £150k even if it hadn't had a shunt ??

Seems a huge amount of money for a brand that has, shall we say, special appeal ?? By that I mean limited/educated in that there is a huge percentage of PetrolHeads/Collectors that would never buy a TVR, and only a small percentage of us who love them and appreciate them..

Even the wonderful Sagaris struggles to sell over 40K, certainly in the current climate.
I think closer to 100k personally, but it is tricky to price.

D14 AYS

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Wednesday 24th August 2011 quote quote all
RedSpike66 said:
Is it really worth £150k even if it hadn't had a shunt ??

Seems a huge amount of money for a brand that has, shall we say, special appeal ?? By that I mean limited/educated in that there is a huge percentage of PetrolHeads/Collectors that would never buy a TVR, and only a small percentage of us who love them and appreciate them..

Even the wonderful Sagaris struggles to sell over 40K, certainly in the current climate.
BCA said:
I think closer to 100k personally, but it is tricky to price.


Agree, ridiculous price that will only put people off even contemplating buying it, Imo 90 ish is about right for what is a very specialist/limited market, good luck to them is they can find someone with more money than sense.


Edited by D14 AYS on Wednesday 24th August 20:44

JR

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Wednesday 24th August 2011 quote quote all
D14 AYS said:
RedSpike66 said:
Is it really worth £150k even if it hadn't had a shunt ??

Seems a huge amount of money for a brand that has, shall we say, special appeal ?? By that I mean limited/educated in that there is a huge percentage of PetrolHeads/Collectors that would never buy a TVR, and only a small percentage of us who love them and appreciate them..

Even the wonderful Sagaris struggles to sell over 40K, certainly in the current climate.
BCA said:
I think closer to 100k personally, but it is tricky to price.


Agree, ridiculous price that will only put people off even contemplating buying it, Imo 90 ish is about right for what is a very specialist/limited market, good luck to them is they can find someone with more money than sense.
Could be yours at £90K; that's still twice the price of a Sag for a different shaped body. After a crash.

RedSpike66

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99 months

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Wednesday 24th August 2011 quote quote all
But it's not Cascade Indigo.. so on that basis, I'm out ! biggrin

D1ckie

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Thursday 25th August 2011 quote quote all
I think if the Scottish one went for circa £99K this surely cant be worth £150K and considering the info V8Griff has on it!!!!!

Mx5guy

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88 months

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Friday 26th August 2011 quote quote all
V8 GRF said:
Podie said:
Hefty shunt?
Yep it was laid up for several years after it was crashed quite heavily by a photographer who was uninsured I believe. It was sitting in the Ginetta factory for some time with grass hanging out of the backend and all the panels sitting inside it.
I took a picture but I can't find it at the moment.
Actually it was because someone drove into the back of it when she was driving in town, so I'd imagine it's not a "hefty" shunt.

Edited by Mx5guy on Friday 26th August 14:35

V8 GRF

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Mx5guy said:
Actually it was because someone drove into the back of it when she was driving in town, so I'd imagine it's not a "hefty" shunt.
Maybe it was tailended, but it definitely had a lot of damage and grass hanging off the the rear end that resulted in the car being off the road for several years with a lot of damage, as I said a simple incident doesn't end up with a half dismantled car sitting around for several years because it's too expensive to repair. I understand it happened in Le-Mans.



Edited by V8 GRF on Friday 26th August 15:22

BCA

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Friday 26th August 2011 quote quote all
V8 GRF said:
Mx5guy said:
Actually it was because someone drove into the back of it when she was driving in town, so I'd imagine it's not a "hefty" shunt.
Maybe it was tailended, but it definitely had a lot of damage and grass hanging off the the rear end that resulted in the car being off the road for several years with a lot of damage, as I said a simple incident doesn't end up with a half dismantled car sitting around for several years because it's too expensive to repair. I understand it happened in Le-Mans.
Cant be bothered.

Edited by BCA on Friday 26th August 22:08

V8 GRF

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I do know however that there was some issue with who was going to pay for the repairs at LNT because when Lawrence pointed the car out to me on a visit a year or so ago, he said 'that's not going anywhere soon' when I pressed for details of why he just avoided the question and changed the subject to his racecars parked behind.


Edited by Slinky on Friday 26th August 22:43

clive f

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will have to get a couple of lucky dips this weekend, I`d have it in a shot if I had plenty of stash laying aroundhehe
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