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CBR JGWRR

6,518 posts

148 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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JonRB said:
CBR JGWRR said:
What are the biggest differences between oblivion and skyrim?
Graphics?
I meant gameplay really.

FloppyRaccoon

1,916 posts

165 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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It feels a bit sluggish and not quite as fluid, but it's really not hugely different. The skills system was quite a bit different IIRC. Took longer to get your levels up I think. You'll still lose a lot of time to the game.

CBR JGWRR

6,518 posts

148 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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It's crashed while installing...

Damn.

FourWheelDrift

88,375 posts

283 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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I have Oblivion on my laptop and Skyrim on my desktop.

Skyrim has a better world environment, graphics and playability as a newer version should have.

Oblivion has better and bigger cites, and a couple of things Skyrim should have (if not modded) such as head turning to look at the person speaking to you, those are the positives. The negatives after playing Skyrim are a dreadful and clumsy menu system, no dual wielding, empty world with not a lot of people around, clumsy dialogue system, no sprinting, ugly people. Don't like the way the armour rating works. And did I mention the clumsy menu system? No shortcut for the world map, you have to go through the clumsy menu system.

Quests are similar, multi-stage and the same prioritising as Skyrim.

I have Oblivion on the laptop as it struggles to play Skyrim (even on reduced settings) but Oblviion plays fine I have even added a few things such as Natual Environments and some graphics extenders for higher res textures.

All in all Oblivion is a game from 2006 and a lot has happened since then. smile


Oh yes, the levelling, you can only level up when you sleep. So when you get to the end of one level don't forget.

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Tuesday 16th October 14:35

CBR JGWRR

6,518 posts

148 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Didn't know it was that old...

judging from the installation screen shots (Its working again!) it looks alright, model detail much lower, but not that bad, faical detail lower, weather effects about the same, world detail ok, weapon detail seems better?


AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

152 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Just started playing this again on the PC!

Bought it on PS3 on release and hated it due to bugs and didn't even get half way through, waste of ~£40.

Bought it on the Steam summer sale and I'm in love again.

CBR JGWRR

6,518 posts

148 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Sleeping to level up, hmm, no more carefully timing it until you are nearly dead and out of magica then...


And how many more attributes are there?

The manual doesn't say...

FourWheelDrift

88,375 posts

283 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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This is a good guide - http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Oblivion

then as you've installed on PC go here smile - http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/categories/

Another thing I don't like about Oblivion is having to use 3 different mod managers, Wyre for installing OGE (Oblivion graphics extenders) OMM (Oblivion mod manager) for OMM files as they handle them better and NMM (Nexus Mod Manager) my installed of choice as it does all of Skyrim for zip/RAR based installs. It's just the way some have been packaged because NMM arrived on the scene later.

Whatever you want to try get this first - http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/5296/
I used OMM to install that.

Gow3r

2,388 posts

154 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Tell you what I miss using a repair hammer from Obvilion and Morrowind, I thought that was a clever feature.

I also prefered the perks for example just by jumping around your jump was improved as was your stamina by running around, I think the new system with a select few perks that form the star constellation is not as good as Oblivion.

I also preffered the cities/towns on Morrowind compared to these new ones on skyrim.

CBR JGWRR

6,518 posts

148 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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hehe

It was the modding aspect which made me get it for pc...

JonRB

74,395 posts

271 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Gow3r said:
Tell you what I miss using a repair hammer from Obvilion and Morrowind, I thought that was a clever feature.
Fo3 and Fo:NV also had degrading of weapons which required them to be repaired. I thought that the removal of the concept from Skyrim rather whiffed of "dumbing down", sadly. frown

Gow3r

2,388 posts

154 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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JonRB said:
Fo3 and Fo:NV also had degrading of weapons which required them to be repaired. I thought that the removal of the concept from Skyrim rather whiffed of "dumbing down", sadly. frown
Yes me too. It was a good feature in that you had to keep an eye on your weapons and armour after battles etc...

I think the creatures in Skyrim are great though, giants and dragons are a great addition.

motorizer

1,498 posts

170 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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JonRB said:
Gow3r said:
Tell you what I miss using a repair hammer from Obvilion and Morrowind, I thought that was a clever feature.
Fo3 and Fo:NV also had degrading of weapons which required them to be repaired. I thought that the removal of the concept from Skyrim rather whiffed of "dumbing down", sadly. frown
It could have been done better though, repairing leather armour with a hammer was as silly as repairing a worn out rifle with a pile of equally worn out rifles

Using the various smithing materials to repair relevant stuff would have worked though, would have been nice if they'd improved it rather than just cutting it altogether.

CBR JGWRR

6,518 posts

148 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Hmm, graphics turned out carp. I think skyrim is better, the leveling system and perks are much easier to understand as a start...

And what does acrobatics do?

FourWheelDrift

88,375 posts

283 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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CBR JGWRR said:
Hmm, graphics turned out carp. I think skyrim is better, the leveling system and perks are much easier to understand as a start...

And what does acrobatics do?
Skyrim will be a lot better on graphics but you can make Oblivion look better.

Oblivion Graphics Extender - http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/30054
Natural Environments - http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/2536
Better Cities - http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/16513
Unique Landscapes - http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/19370
Natural Weather - http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/18305

Acrobatics - moving during combat. These can also be improved - http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/14948

CBR JGWRR

6,518 posts

148 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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Looks better now, not quite as good as skyrim, but still...

FourWheelDrift

88,375 posts

283 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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There's one more Quarl's Texture Pack - http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/18498

I don't use it on my laptop (I might if I put OB on my desktop) I think it's the equivalent of the HD textures addon in Skyrim.



and the Ultimate Oblivion companion, tested and added to by Discworld author Terry Prachett - http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/28977 she's fully interactive, not just following you as in Skyrim, you can follow her and take part in more activities.

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Wednesday 17th October 13:22

moustachebandit

1,264 posts

142 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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My new fun thing to do in Skyrim is hunting Deers and other animals with the force shout. You carefully sneak up behind them, let rip with a shout and then smirk as deer, foxes, goats etc go cart wheeling through the air.

I wish it was possible on the 360 to increase the power of the unrelenting force shout - would love to fire a someone out of the map.

FourWheelDrift

88,375 posts

283 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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moustachebandit said:
My new fun thing to do in Skyrim is hunting Deers and other animals with the force shout. You carefully sneak up behind them, let rip with a shout and then smirk as deer, foxes, goats etc go cart wheeling through the air.

I wish it was possible on the 360 to increase the power of the unrelenting force shout - would love to fire a someone out of the map.
Get yourself a cannon fodder companion that you'll not need again go up to the highest mountain with a good drop below go to the edge and manoeuvre around to get the companion on the edge then let rip smile

You get something like this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMfISe7hx-g

CBR JGWRR

6,518 posts

148 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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moustachebandit said:
My new fun thing to do in Skyrim is hunting Deers and other animals with the force shout. You carefully sneak up behind them, let rip with a shout and then smirk as deer, foxes, goats etc go cart wheeling through the air.

I wish it was possible on the 360 to increase the power of the unrelenting force shout - would love to fire a someone out of the map.
nono

Soul trap first.

smile