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FourWheelDrift

88,546 posts

285 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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Squirrelofwoe said:
My current Skyrim game is running just over 100 mods and it's taken a while to get it exactly how I want it, so if I can backup that folder and switch between them that will be awesome.
It's easy to do, especially if the other folder will be default Skyrim with Enderal on it and you don't mod it.

What I have done in the past, essentially the same as copying the folder and renaming it, is saving it all to an external HDD then uninstalling the game in steam. I have done this with a modded Fallout 3. Then when Fallout 4 was announced I came back to 3 reinstalled it in steam and then copied in the modded game overwriting everything. You can have multiple modded games using different mods that might not work together this way. In Skyrim for example one version with Expanded Towns and Cities, another with Skyrim Holds or Skyrim Open Cities. The only juggle would be save games, loading the right one for each but changing character names fixes that.

Might be wise to move all your Skyrim saves to a Skyrim Save folder so you have just the Enderal ones in the save folder, then moves them to an Enderal folder and the latest Skyrim one back into Saves if you go back to Skyrim. Easy to spot which ones are which though on the load game screen.

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Thursday 18th August 10:16

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

177 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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FourWheelDrift said:
Squirrelofwoe said:
My current Skyrim game is running just over 100 mods and it's taken a while to get it exactly how I want it, so if I can backup that folder and switch between them that will be awesome.
It's easy to do, especially if the other folder will be default Skyrim with Enderal on it and you don't mod it.

Might be wise to move all your Skyrim saves to a Skyrim Save folder so you have just the Enderal ones in the save folder, then moves them to an Enderal folder and the latest Skyrim one back into Saves if you go back to Skyrim. Easy to spot which ones are which though on the load game screen.
I'll give this a go and see how I get on thumbup

FourWheelDrift

88,546 posts

285 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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FourWheelDrift

88,546 posts

285 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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They seem to have integrated a lot of good mods/mod ideas into Enderal, interactive notice boards for village side quests.

Not spoilery

Shadow R1

3,800 posts

177 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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Trying that mod out.
I like it.

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

177 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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So I've created a copy of my Skyrim folder in Steam and called it "Skyrim - modded"

Is it then a case of opening Steam and deleting local content to essentially 'reset' the vanilla Skyrim folder that I wish to use for the mod?

FourWheelDrift

88,546 posts

285 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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Squirrelofwoe said:
So I've created a copy of my Skyrim folder in Steam and called it "Skyrim - modded"

Is it then a case of opening Steam and deleting local content to essentially 'reset' the vanilla Skyrim folder that I wish to use for the mod?
Delete local content (uninstals the game), then reinstall it. It will create a new Skyrim folder that is purely default. Back up your mygame/skyrim too just in case it deletes (I'm sure it doesn't) save games and ini files.

Put the Enderal packed file (8gb one) and the launcher in your Skyrim folder and start the launcher.


When Enderal installs it creates a backup of the new default Skyrim in a folder called enderallauncher/backup you can delete that if you want to.

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Thursday 18th August 21:14

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

177 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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FourWheelDrift said:
Delete local content (uninstals the game), then reinstall it. It will create a new Skyrim folder that is purely default. Back up your mygame/skyrim too just in case it deletes (I'm sure it doesn't) save games and ini files.

Put the Enderal packed file (8gb one) and the launcher in your Skyrim folder and start the launcher.


When Enderal installs it creates a backup of the new default Skyrim in a folder called enderallauncher/backup you can delete that if you want to.
Cheers, yeah I backed up the My Games Skyrim folder too.

Currently downloading the files- hell knows where it's downloading it from as it says between 2 and 3 hours remaining- and I have a 50mb fibre optic connection!

FourWheelDrift

88,546 posts

285 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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Had one crash (screen freeze, no loading), I was in the level up screen where you can choose where to spend your points (the circle of stones) and I tried to exit whilst still having the CTRL interact up on the screen as I was close to a stone. Save game right before went back and made sure that I was further back with no screen hint before exiting.

FourWheelDrift

88,546 posts

285 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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Latest updates seem to have broken the SkyUI menus for me, but I fixed them.

I fixed it by installing SkyUI again (using Nexus Mod Manager), it tells you there is a problem with some menus, delete them manually then go back to installing SkyUI. Now this may have been an SKSE problem as it also said that was out of date so I updated that too. This fixed the SkyUI menus. Except map.swf (when you opened the map it gave an error and loses your current location marker) so I just copied manually in the map.swf from the enderal.rar package into data/interface, all fixed.

6 picturesque views, using an ENB developed for Enderal, Vivid Ender.



FourWheelDrift

88,546 posts

285 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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If anyone was disappointed by the small size and sparsely populated cities in Skyrim you won't be disappointed with the big city in Enderal.

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

177 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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The download finished about 11.30 last night, so going to install this later and see what's what. Can't wait!

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

177 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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Well this is absolutely bloody brilliant! yikes

It's like an entire new game, based on the Skyrim mechanics but incorporating a ton of the best mods (both interface and graphics). It also seems to have a ton more depth to the characters/dialogue. It reminds me of the first time I played the original Deus Ex- which is high praise!

Stunning attention to detail and a production quality that puts a lot of big-budget games to shame.

This is going to keep me busy for some time! biggrin

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

219 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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It's pretty good, sadly I can't get it to run smoothly on my 5 year old i5/4000HD (sub 20fps, vs 30-40+fps with vanilla Skyrim plus a smattering of mods). On the plus side it looks fantastic even on my i3/750Ti desktop smile

Also seems a lot more difficult than vanilla Skyrim? Most of my 'kills' so far have been relying on running away on enemies and luring them into another group of enemies, hiding in some bushes while they pick each other off then go in and finish anyone left. Had a troll chasing me much of the way to the first village (River-something?), so didn't have too many problems with the bandits hehe

Edited by MarkRSi on Saturday 20th August 15:56

FourWheelDrift

88,546 posts

285 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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I've found it to be easier (not easier to play) but easier to get into a magic character with this than a sword or axe fighter and once levelled up the magic (fire usually with lots of mana upgrades) takes out anything, getting attacked by 3+ then I let the companion wade in. Always tried it in Skyrim and ended up having to rely on fighting early on, levelling up 1 and 2 handed weapons and by the time I was ready the magic was left behind.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

219 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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Was a bit put off the magic route due to this funny 'Arcane fever' thing, or is it not that bad in practice?

I'm doing a 'sneaky bd' on my first play-through, mostly archery/stealth so will need to get up a few levels/perks before I can properly pick off enemies while hidden.

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

177 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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Definitely a lot tougher than the vanilla game, but in a good way though.

And quite agree it looks absolutely gorgeous. I'm running mine on an AMD FX-8350 with an R9 290 card with everything maxed out (apart from only 8x AS filtering) and it's only dropped to 29-30fps in the really huge areas or where there is a ton of stuff happening, it seems to spend most of the time around 45ish which is fine for a game like this.

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

177 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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It was all going so well frown

I've tried to go back in tonight, and everytime I try to load my game it freezes on the loading screen (music still playing but all motion stops within the border at the bottom of the screen and the writing doesn't cycle), then around 30 secs later it pops up saying Skyrim has stopped working.

FourWheelDrift

88,546 posts

285 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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Have you done an update? It's up to 1.8 patching.

Try loading the previous save game or another.

Re-download the launcher and paste it into your Skyrim folder.

did you install a mod yourself that isn't compatible?



Any of those help?

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

177 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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FourWheelDrift said:
Have you done an update? It's up to 1.8 patching.

Try loading the previous save game or another.

Re-download the launcher and paste it into your Skyrim folder.

did you install a mod yourself that isn't compatible?



Any of those help?
Sadly not.

Definitely got the latest version, I tried several different saves with no luck, no mods installed whatsoever (just vanilla Enderal).

I tried un-installing and re-installing it (without re-downloading the launcher) and that had no luck.

So I've now re-downloaded the launcher so I'll try that and see if that has any luck.

The only thing I can think is that Steam opened and began auto-updating some Skyrim Workshop content (for my modded Skyrim) before I launched Enderal tonight, so I wonder if that has caused an issue somewhere. I've now disabled the Steam auto updates.