Battlefield 3 - PC Players Thread

[Ordinary_Chap]

Stagpump said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

I always get bored of people complaining about RPG kills, where is the line? no M320, grenade, mortar etc?

Because this is a game and when civilised people play games they should behave like sportsmen.

Before you say but this is a war game remember that if you want to compare this to war then I would like you to show me how a marine, near death can squat behind a wall for 45 seconds and become completely healthy again, or how defibs bring people back to 100% health after they have shot up or caught in a fatal explosion or the real life box of bandages that heals by proximity.

No it is a game and there are some standards that have built up through years of game play through the series and if we are going to host a server we should decide which of these standards we are going to uphold and enforce on our server.

I don't know about you but when I play a game not only do I want to have fun but I want my friends to have fun and being constantly killed by a tactically inept, stats hunting fool who only cares about their enjoyment only causes frustration and anger.

I personally would like to run a server (as I am close friends with jinx I imagine I will be involved) that is fair balance and above all promotes fun.

This is only a discussion at the mo but this is my opinion.

Also using a noob tube makes you a big girly pouf who can kiss my big fat ginger butt cheeks

Personally when I'm killed by the RPG I just think I should become a better player most of the time since I must be tactically inept if I've made it easy for them to do it. Also if you want to get rid of stats padders then you'd definitely have to ban snipers often just want to point score and add very little to the team, in my view them standing at the distance in the same place on the map isn't team play, its point scoring the same as people spamming with the RPG.

And to be honest unless you are playing on a friends server no standards have been built up in the game since it happens just about every round on every server.

What makes the game good is all of the tactics people can use with different weapons on different maps and that includes RPG against infantry sometimes. Plenty of times I've run out of ammo and rather than trying to kill people from a distance with a useless handgun, I will fire the RPG, surely that can't be so wrong?

The only thing I take serious offense too is spawn camping.

[FUBAR]

I don't have real issue with rpg kills. Yes it's annoying but I'm pretty sure Terry Taliban would and oes stick one in your mush should you happen to stuck it round a corner. I don't think you can ban snipers as, if used properly, like I know PHers can, by usefully using soflam, with a Jav and ammo combo, it can be a game winner on the vehicle maps.

I agree with spawn camping though. I played a server yesterday that was kicking after x number of spawn kills. I appreciate sometimes if you are taking a flag and someone spawns next to you you have to kill them, but a spawn kill count on the screen would concentrate the minds of the spawn killer.

Also, baseraping really grinds on my nipple.

Wife out tonight so I'll get the kids in bed and online about 9pm (need more cider first!)

[Stagpump]

As I said earlier:-

Stagpump said:

It's not using them on infantry per say that bothers me it's spamming or when some turd basket comes across a bloody good firefight on, say, metro and decides to end with a bloody noob tube.

I'm not saying not ever I'm saying spamming, persistent use resulting in the flow of the game being disrupted.

I know what you are saying Foobes but if I may I'll give an example.

Last night on metro both teams fighting up that locker room next to B everybody having fun pushing up and being forced back. Comments going up all good natured banter then some knob head who wasn't invited turned up and spammed the corridor with an m320.Great!! cheers pal. all our fun ruined by a spamming buffoon.

I'm just suggesting that spamming be disallowed not the use of rpg/m320. At $500 a shot military forces would not use 55 rpg's in a 45 min fire fight.

So if you want to argue the realistic point consider that an rpg would only be used as a tactical response to being out gunned by armour or as a way to remove a dug in threat.

I will go with the flow on this I just think we should be wary of spammers.

Oh and please no base raping.

[FUBAR]

Stagpump said:

I'm not saying not ever I'm saying spamming, persistent use resulting in the flow of the game being disrupted.

I know what you are saying Foobes but if I may I'll give an example.

Last night on metro both teams fighting up that locker room next to B everybody having fun pushing up and being forced back. Comments going up all good natured banter then some knob head who wasn't invited turned up and spammed the corridor with an m320.Great!! cheers pal. all our fun ruined by a spamming buffoon.

I'm just suggesting that spamming be disallowed not the use of rpg/m320. At $500 a shot military forces would not use 55 rpg's in a 45 min fire fight.

So if you want to argue the realistic point consider that an rpg would only be used as a tactical response to being out gunned by armour or as a way to remove a dug in threat.

I will go with the flow on this I just think we should be wary of spammers.

Oh and please no base raping.

This is THE #1 reason why I'm dead against Metro being on our server list. I've conceeded Grand Bazaar as an infantry map, but Metro is just a clusterfk

[Stagpump]

FUBAR said:

This is THE #1 reason why I'm dead against Metro being on our server list. I've conceded Grand Bazaar as an infantry map, but Metro is just a cluster fk

I'm happy to drop metro I know it gets on peoples tits but seine and bazaar have to stay.

I need to have at least 2 maps where I don't get fked up the butt by some tom cruise wanna be.

Oh and could we mod the server so the U.S. support wears fluffy bunny slippers.

That avatar looks fking stupid anyway we might as well finish the job.

[Fabric]

Stagpump said:

I'm just suggesting that spamming be disallowed not the use of rpg/m320. At $500 a shot military forces would not use 55 rpg's in a 45 min fire fight.

You realise it costs $230,000 for ONE loaded javelin launcher?

Edited by Fabric on Friday 4th May 17:52

[RussellG]

I don't think any of us are big fans of people spamming weapons but I can't really say I have a big issue with it or any particular weapons. I found that most of these tactics can be countered by some common sense and teamwork. Even if it does mean I have to sacrifice my life a few times to stop them it's all part of the fun.

[Stagpump]

Fabric said:

You realise it costs $230,000 for ONE loaded javelin launcher?

Edited by Fabric on Friday 4th May 17:52

I'm talking about the 30 year old RPG not the relatively new Javelin.

[Fabric]

Stagpump said:

I'm talking about the 30 year old RPG not the relatively new Javelin.

I know. It's more to highlight the irrelevance of monetary issues within a game.

Really though, I can't say I've seen a problem with anyone ever spamming anything outside of Metro, or small areas of Bazaar. Otherwise, the maps are generally too large to allow it.

[Ordinary_Chap]

Fabric said:

Stagpump said:

I'm talking about the 30 year old RPG not the relatively new Javelin.

I know. It's more to highlight the irrelevance of monetary issues within a game.

Really though, I can't say I've seen a problem with anyone ever spamming anything outside of Metro, or small areas of Bazaar. Otherwise, the maps are generally too large to allow it.

I agree.

I'm ex military and I've never heard anyone suggest that a weapon can't be used in a skirmish because it costs too much.

Usually the limit has zero to do with cost and simply how many rounds the squaddie can carry.

I actually find the very few proper spammers really easy to get since they usually stand in the same place fire-reloooooaaaaad-fire

[FUBAR]

So OC, are you a BF3 pc player? If so, what is your game name, so I can add it to the list, and will we be seeing you on the PH server tonight?

[Ordinary_Chap]

FUBAR said:

So OC, are you a BF3 pc player? If so, what is your game name, so I can add it to the list, and will we be seeing you on the PH server tonight?

I am indeed and have been for a while. I've also been lurking in this thread!

My name is Engimatic50, I probably won't play tonight since I've just setup a new PC and the game is re-downloading from Origin at a measly 300kb/sec

Oh and I'm already a member, I just hadn't realized there is a PH server!

[Stagpump]

Fair point about the fact that no one says "no don't use that" because of money.

Your missing my point I was saying that saying no to a weapon is bad cos that isn't realistic can be countered with the argument that a single squaddie standing and spamming 30 rpg rounds off one after the other in hopes of a kill with no real specific target is just as unrealistic.

Again I'm not saying no to these weapons or to them being used against infantry just admins in the server should prevent excessive spamming.

The people that post on this thread have a brain I'm just saying the admins should use common sense about spamming.

No automatic kick just admins keeping a watchful eye. Surely that's reasonable??

[Ordinary_Chap]

Stagpump said:

Fair point about the fact that no one says "no don't use that" because of money.

Your missing my point I was saying that saying no to a weapon is bad cos that isn't realistic can be countered with the argument that a single squaddie standing and spamming 30 rpg rounds off one after the other in hopes of a kill with no real specific target is just as unrealistic.

Again I'm not saying no to these weapons or to them being used against infantry just admins in the server should prevent excessive spamming.

The people that post on this thread have a brain I'm just saying the admins should use common sense about spamming.

No automatic kick just admins keeping a watchful eye. Surely that's reasonable??

Sounds reasonable although it has to air on the side of the person firing the RPG since you probably don't know at anyone time what ammo they have (I've often run out of bullets). If they do it for 20 minutes non-stop then it would be a fair shout since you can only do that across several lives or if someone is re-supplying and if they are then the RPG firer should have sufficient numbers of bullets.

[FUBAR]

Ordinary_Chap said:

I am indeed and have been for a while. I've also been lurking in this thread!

My name is Engimatic50, I probably won't play tonight since I've just setup a new PC and the game is re-downloading from Origin at a measly 300kb/sec

Oh and I'm already a member, I just hadn't realized there is a PH server!

I meant the player list on page 1 of his thread (that I've just added you to )

NB any other lurkers or members of the PH clan, please step forward if you're not in the list on page 1 please

[RussellG]

Stagpump said:

The people that post on this thread have a brain I'm just saying the admins should use common sense about spamming.

No automatic kick just admins keeping a watchful eye. Surely that's reasonable??

Thats sounds perfectly reasonable to me

[RussellG]

Im out at the pub again this weekend so wont be on much friday/saturday night. Just going to nip on now for a few quick rounds.

[Stagpump]

Ordinary_Chap said:

I am indeed and have been for a while. I've also been lurking in this thread!

My name is Engimatic50, I probably won't play tonight since I've just setup a new PC and the game is re-downloading from Origin at a measly 300kb/sec

Ouch is that cos the feckers at EA are throttling for the weekend??

The fact that the game is supplied on a DVD but is now 15gb (I know the Karkand pack) just shows how many alterations they've had to make.

I hope you get in tonight.

I have an RPG with your name on it

[Ordinary_Chap]

Stagpump said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

I am indeed and have been for a while. I've also been lurking in this thread!

My name is Engimatic50, I probably won't play tonight since I've just setup a new PC and the game is re-downloading from Origin at a measly 300kb/sec

Ouch is that cos the feckers at EA are throttling for the weekend??

The fact that the game is supplied on a DVD but is now 15gb (I know the Karkand pack) just shows how many alterations they've had to make.

I hope you get in tonight.

I have an RPG with your name on it

Haha thanks buddy!

I'm now getting 200kb/sec so definitely no chance of me being online tonight and I'm at 23%.

Might see you all around later in the weekend if anyone is playing!

[Glade]

My phone line is down so I've been playing campaign.

It's awesome. I can see the plan for the dlc later in the year is now