Elite: Dangerous

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MattyB_

2,013 posts

258 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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snuffy said:
Also, Oculus Rift would be an option, but it seems like one of the those never ending, always in development products to me (a bit like Elite !).
Trust me on this - play Elite on an OR and you'll never go back to a monitor, no matter how big or curvy it is.

snuffy

9,782 posts

285 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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MattyB_ said:
snuffy said:
Also, Oculus Rift would be an option, but it seems like one of the those never ending, always in development products to me (a bit like Elite !).
Trust me on this - play Elite on an OR and you'll never go back to a monitor, no matter how big or curvy it is.
I would buy an OR today - but they don't actually exist. I mean, would you buy a beta version car ? If they want to flog me a beta/unfinished product then it should be the other way round, i.e. pay me for testing it for them.

Jayfish

6,795 posts

204 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Bought in yesterday, the extra £15 for beta is excessive maybe but it's only 6 weeks of Eve playtime so sod it.
Waiting on delivery of a Thrustmast t-flight HOTAS as I wasn't getting to grips with mouse control and if I'm going to have to learn I might as well have the stick from the start.

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Just looked at the website, as I like games like this - but £50!

Baron Greenback

6,997 posts

151 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Wait till Nov 22nd for full release! This game has no monthly fee like other games don't forget!

Can't wait for next patch next week for mining finally!

snuffy

9,782 posts

285 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Jayfish said:
Bought in yesterday, the extra £15 for beta is excessive
Yes I agree, but when did this type of garbage start ? Companies now think their customers should pay MORE for an unfinished product. Wrong - they should be paying LESS.

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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snuffy said:
Jayfish said:
Bought in yesterday, the extra £15 for beta is excessive
Yes I agree, but when did this type of garbage start ? Companies now think their customers should pay MORE for an unfinished product. Wrong - they should be paying LESS.
That's what I thought, too.

I didn't pay the $99 for IL2 BOS for a Beta, I waited until it was released on Steam.

Jayfish

6,795 posts

204 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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They couldn't charge less than the kickstart packages, that would have upset the early backers, but they also know that £50 isn't a PC price point that'll attract the numbers they hope for, so betas get a little play time and a handfull of ingame exclusives decals etc.

motorizer

1,498 posts

172 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Yep, the initial high price was to fund making the game, we might not even have one if it wasn't for the backers who were prepared to pay.
They won't drop it now, that would be a slap in the face for those who funded it.

No one is forcing anyone to pay anything, it will be cheaper if you wait.

Still a bargain compared to an EVE or WoW sub in my view.

bstb3

4,087 posts

159 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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motorizer said:
Still a bargain compared to an EVE or WoW sub in my view.
This is it really. They are what, £9 a month or something? So if you can get 5 months of equivalent playing time out of this then its paid for itself pretty much. That's how I'm approaching it so wasn't worried about the £50 too much. I know how much as a youth I put into Elite and Frontier so 5 months is easily possible.

Only got a few hours in so far, but the signs are promising. I found mouse / keyboard control was much easier switching the Mouse to yaw control only and putting roll on the A/D keys, feels more intuitive that way (but then it was like that in the SWG jump to lightspeed expansion so kind of used to it).

Mannginger

9,066 posts

258 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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I dropped away from this for a bit as I couldn't get comfortable with my x52 controller set up but I finally worked out what felt wrong about the set-up and swapped the roll and yaw axis. It now operates as my old Tie-fighter set up did and feels right to me (Roll is now on RZ-Axis and yaw on X-axis)

So that coupled with finding a nice feeling set-up for my Track_IR has me heading back into the game and finding it feeling good now!

Are there enough PHers yet to set up a friends list? Not that I'm any good but might be nice to hook up with a few people now and again

Commander: Jared Reidel

gazchap

1,523 posts

184 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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snuffy said:
If they want to flog me a beta/unfinished product then it should be the other way round, i.e. pay me for testing it for them.
But you're playing the beta of Elite, right?

scorp

8,783 posts

230 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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snuffy said:
Jayfish said:
Bought in yesterday, the extra £15 for beta is excessive
Yes I agree, but when did this type of garbage start ? Companies now think their customers should pay MORE for an unfinished product. Wrong - they should be paying LESS.
Having to maintain public beta servers during development sounds like a pain in the ass, I'm guessing they put a premium on there to limit the testing population down to a manageable size. Would be better if they did it like Blizzard and run a lottery on accounts that have opted in for Beta, although that requires an existing account.

Beta 3 tomorrow is it ?

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

166 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Is this only MP or is there a stand alone option like the original (oh happy days on my Spectrum 48k)?

scorp

8,783 posts

230 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Grumfutock said:
Is this only MP or is there a stand alone option like the original (oh happy days on my Spectrum 48k)?
Solo and MP is both supported, although Solo mode requires that bane of modern gaming, an online connection.

motorizer

1,498 posts

172 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Grumfutock said:
Is this only MP or is there a stand alone option like the original (oh happy days on my Spectrum 48k)?
They promised a single player offline mode, but it's not in yet.

You can play the online mode in solo and you won't see other players

snuffy

9,782 posts

285 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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gazchap said:
snuffy said:
If they want to flog me a beta/unfinished product then it should be the other way round, i.e. pay me for testing it for them.
But you're playing the beta of Elite, right?
No. I've ordered the proper version for £35 but I've not paid an extra £15 for the incomplete version. Like I say, if they want to pay me to beta test their product for them then I might have considered it. But I'm not paying to be a tester.

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

166 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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motorizer said:
Grumfutock said:
Is this only MP or is there a stand alone option like the original (oh happy days on my Spectrum 48k)?
They promised a single player offline mode, but it's not in yet.

You can play the online mode in solo and you won't see other players
Hmmmm I think i can feel a new PC coming on.

Steven_RW

1,730 posts

203 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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snuffy said:
No. I've ordered the proper version for £35 but I've not paid an extra £15 for the incomplete version. Like I say, if they want to pay me to beta test their product for them then I might have considered it. But I'm not paying to be a tester.
Some people queue up all night to just have a new iPhone 6, to replace their perfectly good iPhone 5s. This would show that some people are happy to "pay" a premium to be first to have or access something.

Whilst I don't get it myself, it isn't a unique or rare phenomenon.

Thinking about it now, i'd really like to have a pc with some OR kit and games and if that cost a bit more i'd be really happy to be involved in the supporting of the development of horison shifting tech.

Rgds,
Steven_RW

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Steven_RW said:
Some people queue up all night to just have a new iPhone 6, to replace their perfectly good iPhone 5s. This would show that some people are happy to "pay" a premium to be first to have or access something.

Whilst I don't get it myself, it isn't a unique or rare phenomenon.

Thinking about it now, i'd really like to have a pc with some OR kit and games and if that cost a bit more i'd be really happy to be involved in the supporting of the development of horison shifting tech.

Rgds,
Steven_RW
I have to admit that I have never understood that mentality..