Elite: Dangerous

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Kaelic

2,686 posts

202 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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PhilboSE said:
Fruits of 15 minutes play this morning...endless succession of Wanted Anacondas entering a RES. Average 100K bounty on each. Came to an end when a Fed flew right through my beam lasers, at which point they all turned on me, so had to bug out and clear the whole Cr300 bounty they'd put on me...

This game really needs an "instant pay fine" or "apologise" function, or even having a bit more AI on the NPCs; I'm Allied to the Feds and have worked with them to do untold damage to a series of incursions, yet a single winging of a Fed is enough to make me a criminal.

Phil get that posted on their fb page here, they are showing someone with some "serious" bounty claims and yours are much higher!

page is here : https://www.facebook.com/EliteDangerousOfficial?fr...

PhilboSE

4,373 posts

227 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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Kaelic said:
Phil get that posted on their fb page here, they are showing someone with some "serious" bounty claims and yours are much higher!
I'm not on FB, but anybody is welcome to post it up! I'm not sure why they are calling these "serious" claims, I regularly run to claims totalling over half a million credits. Lurking around a RES with a tooled up asp is a turkey shoot. I'm Allied to everyone in the local system apart from the (Independent) organisation that is pirating the RES. This means that everyone on my radar is green apart from the pirates who show as red, so they're easy to spot, intercept and waste. The main thing is retaining the discipline not to attack them until they've been scanned and confirmed as Wanted.

PhilboSE

4,373 posts

227 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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anonymous said:
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Each time you fly into a RES it seems that nearly all the incoming pirates will be of the same type. I reckon that the distribution is something like:
- 40% Sidewinders only
- 40% Cobra IIIs only
- 19% Mix of sidewinders & cobras
- 1% anacondas only

I've only had Wanted anacondas on two occasions, and I've been camping at the same RES for the last 3 days. When they come, it's bounty time! I scan it and give it a quick laser burst to get it aggressive. That attracts the local feds, who then start buttering it up. I join in and use cannons to get rid of the shields which gives the feds a chance to actually do some damage. Then I target the engines to leave it a beached whale and we can take it out collectively. If the anaconda ever decides to focus on me, I just dump chaff. Using this approach I've run out of ammo taking out wave after wave of anacondas without taking hull damage myself.

Baron Greenback

7,000 posts

151 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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PhilboSE said:
Each time you fly into a RES it seems that nearly all the incoming pirates will be of the same type. I reckon that the distribution is something like:
- 40% Sidewinders only
- 40% Cobra IIIs only
- 19% Mix of sidewinders & cobras
- 1% anacondas only

I've only had Wanted anacondas on two occasions, and I've been camping at the same RES for the last 3 days. When they come, it's bounty time! I scan it and give it a quick laser burst to get it aggressive. That attracts the local feds, who then start buttering it up. I join in and use cannons to get rid of the shields which gives the feds a chance to actually do some damage. Then I target the engines to leave it a beached whale and we can take it out collectively. If the anaconda ever decides to focus on me, I just dump chaff. Using this approach I've run out of ammo taking out wave after wave of anacondas without taking hull damage myself.
Love the tactics may give it a try! Hows the Asp going, love the noise of the engines through my cinema system hope the neighbour cant hear it too much!

PhilboSE

4,373 posts

227 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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Baron Greenback said:
Hows the Asp going, love the noise of the engines through my cinema system hope the neighbour cant hear it too much!
Asp is by far my favourite ship now. I now have a sort of intellectual curiosity to see if a Python will be a step up from the Asp again, but I'm not sure I can stand to grind the Cr100M+ I'd need to fit one out.

Baron Greenback

7,000 posts

151 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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PhilboSE said:
Asp is by far my favourite ship now. I now have a sort of intellectual curiosity to see if a Python will be a step up from the Asp again, but I'm not sure I can stand to grind the Cr100M+ I'd need to fit one out.
Aye my target is the Python also, but I am not in a rush to get there!

Chuck328

1,581 posts

168 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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PhilboSE said:
Each time you fly into a RES it seems that nearly all the incoming pirates will be of the same type. I reckon that the distribution is something like:
- 40% Sidewinders only
- 40% Cobra IIIs only
- 19% Mix of sidewinders & cobras
- 1% anacondas only

I've only had Wanted anacondas on two occasions, and I've been camping at the same RES for the last 3 days. When they come, it's bounty time! I scan it and give it a quick laser burst to get it aggressive. That attracts the local feds, who then start buttering it up. I join in and use cannons to get rid of the shields which gives the feds a chance to actually do some damage. Then I target the engines to leave it a beached whale and we can take it out collectively. If the anaconda ever decides to focus on me, I just dump chaff. Using this approach I've run out of ammo taking out wave after wave of anacondas without taking hull damage myself.
Hmmm, I tried the same thing, nothing on me in the sector I was in, targeted a wanted ship, feds came steaming in and opened on him to, 'wanted' was destroyed, then the feds opened up on me, lost my ship.

Could I have accidently hit one of the fed ships in the shoot up? Or some other reason they targeted me?

Loving the game though despite only been on it a few days.

JustinF

6,795 posts

204 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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Hubble have just released a massive panoramic of Andromeda Galaxy, it's mind blowing!
Big file at 179Mb Jpeg but well worth a look!
http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/...

There's enough detail there for a future expansion pack wink

Crush

15,077 posts

170 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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Had my first PvP victory! Someone in an Asp interdicted me, took twenty minutes but finally beat him with 15% damage to my Sidewinder. Was good fun although not a fan of PvP, usually prefer co-op play.

Loving it now I have my head around the controls and commands, think I'll have a good go at solo before venturing into online again though.

Daston

6,075 posts

204 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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My bro just came over with his laptop and X-55 stick for a bit of flying around.

Got my first bounty kills and now making way more with pew pew than trading! Plus spending months flying ME-109's and IL2s hitting stuff with Lasers is fecking easy!

Looking at getting a new ship, not sure if I should go for the Eagle or something with more range.

Kaelic

2,686 posts

202 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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Daston said:
My bro just came over with his laptop and X-55 stick for a bit of flying around.

Got my first bounty kills and now making way more with pew pew than trading! Plus spending months flying ME-109's and IL2s hitting stuff with Lasers is fecking easy!

Looking at getting a new ship, not sure if I should go for the Eagle or something with more range.
X55 is a great setup just too many bloody buttons biggrin

am still trying to remember what I mapped where

deckster

9,630 posts

256 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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ash73 said:
Crush said:
Someone in an Asp interdicted me, took twenty minutes but finally beat him with 15% damage to my Sidewinder.
Blimey, good effort!
Definitely, bet the other chap was smarting over that.

PhilboSE

4,373 posts

227 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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ash73 said:
Crush said:
Someone in an Asp interdicted me, took twenty minutes but finally beat him with 15% damage to my Sidewinder.
Blimey, good effort!
Just what I was going to say! I wouldn't have thought a Sidewinder had it in it to wear down an Asp's shields/hull. What weapons were you using?

PhilboSE

4,373 posts

227 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Chuck328 said:
Hmmm, I tried the same thing, nothing on me in the sector I was in, targeted a wanted ship, feds came steaming in and opened on him to, 'wanted' was destroyed, then the feds opened up on me, lost my ship.

Could I have accidently hit one of the fed ships in the shoot up? Or some other reason they targeted me?
One of two things are the most likely:

- you shot at the target before they were confirmed as Wanted on your scanner. Doesn't matter if they're aligned to a pirate faction, doesn't matter if the feds are already shooting at him, doesn't even matter if he's attacking YOU already: if you haven't completed the scan in your ship and you shoot them then you are instantly Wanted - even if the target is confirmed as being Wanted seconds later. It's a weakness in the game IMO and multiplied by the fact that the feds seem to be much better at shooting you rather than an NPC.

- a fed flew through your lasers, you winged them, instant Wanted. You need to be really careful when shooting lasers at range if the feds are nearby - if your lasers lose lock or the target goes out of range and you are holding down Fire then they will shoot at the straight ahead and you can wing a fed.

Either way, your only choice is to bug out immediately, go to the nearest station, clear the Cr300 fine and then resume your (second) life. It's a real pain - especially if you've spent 10 minutes wearing down a target.

PhilboSE

4,373 posts

227 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Something else I've noticed in my camping/policing of Resource Extraction Sites - any canisters of goods floating about seem to be able to be scooped with impunity. I have scooped up about 50t of gold/silver/palladium so far and despite being scanned by the local feds AND the local space stations, not once have I been fined for it. It still shows up as Stolen in my manifest and I need to offload it a a black market, but I seem to be able to do so with impunity.

It's possible that being Allied to the feds and the faction running the space stations means that they are more relaxed about this stuff, or maybe it's being treated because they were mined (and possibly abandoned) resources, I don't know, but it's another way to make easy money at a RES.

wolves_wanderer

12,387 posts

238 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Daft question, but how do I find these resource extraction sites? I'm currently grinding through my first rare run but feeling the need to become slightly more badass.

Crush

15,077 posts

170 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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PhilboSE said:
ash73 said:
Crush said:
Someone in an Asp interdicted me, took twenty minutes but finally beat him with 15% damage to my Sidewinder.
Blimey, good effort!
Just what I was going to say! I wouldn't have thought a Sidewinder had it in it to wear down an Asp's shields/hull. What weapons were you using?
Just the standard pulse (beam?) lasers. Every 3 or 4 hits from two of them knocked the hull down 1%. Not sure on how many to keep the shields down.

It was odd as I don't think he/ she was using side/yaw controls so it was easy to get a high number of hits before overheating. I used these quite a bit and they struggled to get many hits (side thrust combined with yaw seemed to work for evading while hitting them).



Edited by Crush on Thursday 22 January 09:13

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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PhilboSE said:
Each time you fly into a RES it seems that nearly all the incoming pirates will be of the same type. I reckon that the distribution is something like:
- 40% Sidewinders only
- 40% Cobra IIIs only
- 19% Mix of sidewinders & cobras
- 1% anacondas only
Yeah that seems about right, it's a shame they're not a bit more mixed up. There's nothing to keep you around if the first few are sidies as you know that's all you're going to get.


Berz

406 posts

193 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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wolves_wanderer said:
Daft question, but how do I find these resource extraction sites? I'm currently grinding through my first rare run but feeling the need to become slightly more badass.
Look for a system with a planet with rings. After you jump in the RES will show on the nav screen so treat it like anything else on there - supercruise to it and then drop out of supercruise when you're on top of it. It's very entertaining when you get there, just avoid shooting the police.

PhilboSE

4,373 posts

227 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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wolves_wanderer said:
Daft question, but how do I find these resource extraction sites? I'm currently grinding through my first rare run but feeling the need to become slightly more badass.
They're not in every system, but they show up on the Navigation tab. I guess look for systems with economies based on extraction/refinery, more likely to find them in there. Target the RES and drop out of supercruise in the normal way when you are close enough. You usually get dropped about 10-40km away so boost towards them and soon enough your radar will show lots of ships. Mostly they're innocent miners doing their thing, but there are always feds hanging around in numbers. Pirates tend to drop in on a regular basis and tough it out with the feds. You can play the policeman and get some easy kills (assisted by the feds), or harass the miners in the hope that they drop canisters you can scoop. I haven't tried the latter approach because scooping requires low speeds and you're likely to be under attack at that point...