project CARS

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BaronVonVaderham

2,317 posts

148 months

Monday 18th January 2016
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SlipStream77 said:
Out of interest, what other games/sims have you tried?
Pretty much everything on PS and xbox. Not so much on pcs recently (Geoff Crammond!) Most hours on Gran Turismo series as has a more realistic feel than say Forza (arcade crap for kids).

PCars feels most realistic with the control inputs and the resulting weight transfer of the cars on track. Having driven/raced most of the UK tracks in a variety of cars in the real world, it's the best feeling racing game I've ever played.

Have you raced for real much or are you just comparing games with other games? smile


born2bslow

1,674 posts

135 months

Monday 18th January 2016
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Maty said:
I managed to pick up a Thurstmaster T150 this morning from Argos after their massive mis price mistake (got for £45). Can anyone point me in the direction of a good beginners guide to getting the settings sorted as I understand there is a lot to play around with?
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/forumdisplay.php?121-PC-Technical-Help-amp-Support

Lots of help on the forum, ignore the bhing n moaning.

mr_oversteer

800 posts

219 months

Monday 18th January 2016
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BaronVonVaderham said:
BrownBottle said:
Surely being able to go from lock to lock as quickly as you can flick a toggle on a control pad is completely unrealistic?
Exactly! Try that in a real racing car and the marshals will be collecting you from the scenery.

Also dry grass has plenty of grip, even if you brake with one wheel off. Wet grass is entirely different obviously.

I suspect that those criticising this game have zero track or racing experience in real life wink

Whilst it's still a game, it's much closer to the sim end and far superior to all the other games I've spent many, many hours on. The weight transfer and tyre dynamics are unparalleled. Sounds good too! driving
I don't think you understand what I'm getting at. Having the control to go from lock to lock as quickly as possible is more realistic (and easier to be accurate) than the game deciding how quickly to apply lock. It's not predictable to the point where it's almost impossible to gather up a slide going in a straight line in powerful cars.

Dry grass has nowhere the same amount of grip as tarmac, wet grass even less so.

While I have no racing experience above karts, I have spent plenty of time on track & in powerful cars and am still criticizing the game.

Like I've said before, the handling model of GPL is way ahead of the physics engine for pCars, and games like iRacing & rFactor 2 leave pCars for dead. pCars is more need for speed than iRacing so I feel the sim tag is undeserved.

SlipStream77

2,153 posts

192 months

Monday 18th January 2016
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BaronVonVaderham said:
SlipStream77 said:
Out of interest, what other games/sims have you tried?
Pretty much everything on PS and xbox. Not so much on pcs recently (Geoff Crammond!) Most hours on Gran Turismo series as has a more realistic feel than say Forza (arcade crap for kids).

PCars feels most realistic with the control inputs and the resulting weight transfer of the cars on track. Having driven/raced most of the UK tracks in a variety of cars in the real world, it's the best feeling racing game I've ever played.

Have you raced for real much or are you just comparing games with other games? smile
There are no realistic sims on consoles yet IMO, I'd advise you to try AC, IRacing and rFactor 1 or 2.

Weight transfer is not that difficult to simulate, the tyre model is the most important aspect to ensure realistic feel.

I'm not a professional racing driver, but I do have a good understanding of vehicle dynamics. smile


BaronVonVaderham

2,317 posts

148 months

Monday 18th January 2016
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Fair play, if I ever have a PC that's up to the task I will check them out. Certainly not a professional here!! biggrin

Mattygooner

5,301 posts

205 months

Monday 18th January 2016
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mr_oversteer said:
Like I've said before, the handling model of GPL is way ahead of the physics engine for pCars, and games like iRacing & rFactor 2 leave pCars for dead. pCars is more need for speed than iRacing so I feel the sim tag is undeserved.
It's really not, GPL had a rudimentary physics model and not much of a tire model, understandable given how long ago it was and what they had to work with and what their users had to work with. Pcars, Iracing (same person behind GPL), rfactor 2 and AC all have very advanced physics engines and tyre models, all very good in their own way and very much all aimed at realism, the only discernible difference is how they each communicate it all back to you through a wheel.

Pcars has probably the most advanced FFB system out of all of them in the parameters you can adjust according to what you want to feel, AC uses predetermined effects for things (although I believe they are going to change this) and rfactor 2 has the best FFB out the box, but again this all depends on how much you want to look in to it and set it up.

You also need to set up the cars a little to get the best out of them, most are set neutral and understeery so people don't crash instantly and give up.

Just try them all.

Edited by Mattygooner on Monday 18th January 18:10


Edited by Mattygooner on Monday 18th January 18:22

born2bslow

1,674 posts

135 months

Monday 18th January 2016
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If you don't like FFB out of the box, try these bad boys.

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22...

Different FFB profiles configured for you. I'm using them and I think Project CARs is brilliant and most definitely a SIM, but I'm aware it's my opinion that not everyone will share.

BrownBottle

1,373 posts

137 months

Monday 18th January 2016
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BaronVonVaderham said:
Fair play, if I ever have a PC that's up to the task I will check them out. Certainly not a professional here!! biggrin
AC my personal favorite on PC is coming out on console this year so you'll get your chance smile

HorneyMX5

5,309 posts

151 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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I see the KTM X-Bow is dropping in "Stance" pack.

callmedave

2,686 posts

146 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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Thanks to whoever posted this up! thumbup

thebraketester

14,257 posts

139 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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Amazing deal. Gutted I missed it

HorneyMX5

5,309 posts

151 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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callmedave said:
Thanks to whoever posted this up! thumbup
That makes the Currys half price deal on the G29 seem expensive! Was it an actual deal or a mistake on Argos' part?

mr_oversteer

800 posts

219 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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callmedave said:


Thanks to whoever posted this up! thumbup
How? It's £150 on their site

Maty

1,233 posts

214 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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mr_oversteer said:
callmedave said:


Thanks to whoever posted this up! thumbup
How? It's £150 on their site
I got one as well smile

It's back up to £169 on Argos now. The cheapest I could find online was £115 delivered.

Very impressed thus far, just need to buy a stand now, the ironing board just doesn't cut it!

Daston

6,075 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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Just updating the game on Steam for the Renault car pack and it says that they have added the hard top radical for free. Do you have to download this anywhere or is just patched into the game?


callmedave

2,686 posts

146 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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mr_oversteer said:
How? It's £150 on their site
It was a mistake on their part. But they honoured it.
Went I went to pick it up, they asked for £169.99 I said it was £45 when I ordered it and the changed it no problem, the girl serving me said 'that's a good deal!'


klunkT5

590 posts

119 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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Daston said:
Just updating the game on Steam for the Renault car pack and it says that they have added the hard top radical for free. Do you have to download this anywhere or is just patched into the game?
Patched into the game as is the DLC, Purchasing it just unlocks it, Check your car list, Should be there smile

SlipStream77

2,153 posts

192 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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BaronVonVaderham said:
Fair play, if I ever have a PC that's up to the task I will check them out. Certainly not a professional here!! biggrin
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BaronVonVaderham

2,317 posts

148 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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BrownBottle said:
AC my personal favorite on PC is coming out on console this year so you'll get your chance smile
Thanks for the heads up - have just preordered AC for the PS4 thumbup

Diderot

7,339 posts

193 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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Nice new trailer for DLC. This track looks cool. Not fussed about that MX5 drift thing.

https://youtu.be/0SwSNNIttp8




Edited by Diderot on Thursday 28th January 10:56