project CARS

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RJames

753 posts

191 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Jonty355 said:
Can I actually get the beta version of this on Steam now or do I have to wait for the actual release date? If so is it worth downloading now or am I better off waiting for the final product?

Sorry, I'm pretty new to Steam and PC gaming.
You can pre-order i believe however you cannot get the early versions. There was a buy in period a year or longer back where people bought in to launch the project. It's sit tight for release now.

I did buy in at the start but got a refund after a while as it felt very "shift" at that point in development however i've heard better things more recently. I personally prefer the likes of rF2 for their rawness rather than pretty images however it's very likely ill buy it when released as they have Le Mans.

Jonty355

4,423 posts

214 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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RJames said:
You can pre-order i believe however you cannot get the early versions. There was a buy in period a year or longer back where people bought in to launch the project. It's sit tight for release now.

I did buy in at the start but got a refund after a while as it felt very "shift" at that point in development however i've heard better things more recently. I personally prefer the likes of rF2 for their rawness rather than pretty images however it's very likely ill buy it when released as they have Le Mans.
hmm, I'm wondering whether its going to be worth getting at all now. I've spent a lot of time on Race07 for the same reasons as you with rf2. Did feel it was very realistic but I've recently started getting into Assetto Corsa. Although its definitely better looking I'm not sure if its quite as real feeling as Race07? Unless I've just not managed to set my wheel up properly yet.

Bullett

10,889 posts

185 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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It depends what you want from a game.
Some look nicer.
Some have better physics, but I'd just drive what feels right to you and not get too hung up on this.
Some have better AI
Some have better online/community competitive racing
Some have huge numbers of cars and tracks, others are more limited
Some have mod support others have DLC

I'd try as many as you can. This looks fun, good car and track selection, good physics from what I understand. My personal favourite is iracing mostly for the competitive/online elements as the graphics ain't top tier and some people dislike the physics and there is a limited (relatively) car selection and it's not cheap.

y2blade

56,127 posts

216 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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RemaL

24,973 posts

235 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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y2blade said:
finges crossed it's as good as it sounds

Martin_Hx

3,955 posts

199 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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One of the lads i work with asked if i was getting this, i said i was but in no rush... later this morning i had a look to see the price £45 ish cost brand new, then i saw the screen shots.... i have watched a couple of videos but wow the shots look good, i will defiantly be buying near the release date!

mattfuey

442 posts

139 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Just put my preorder in, now just need to convince myself the Thrustmaster wheel is good value!

Jonty355

4,423 posts

214 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Bullett said:
I'd try as many as you can. This looks fun, good car and track selection, good physics from what I understand. My personal favourite is iracing mostly for the competitive/online elements as the graphics ain't top tier and some people dislike the physics and there is a limited (relatively) car selection and it's not cheap.
Do you know if Project Cars will be available as a demo or will it be a case of buying it to try it?

marctwo

3,666 posts

261 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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y2blade said:
Where are all the crackles, pops and bangs? It still sounds a little clinical to me. I'm still going to buy it though it seems like a big step on from GT6.

Jayyylo

985 posts

148 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Has anyone every conducted an experiment between games to see if lap times are comparable or do they get faster with better games and technology updates? e.g. same car around the same track in gt3, gt4, forza 3 and 4, ac, project cars etc

BrownBottle

1,373 posts

137 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Jayyylo said:
Has anyone every conducted an experiment between games to see if lap times are comparable or do they get faster with better games and technology updates? e.g. same car around the same track in gt3, gt4, forza 3 and 4, ac, project cars etc
I haven't seen lap time comparisons between games but they shouldn't really get faster, the idea should be to get as close as possible to the lap time of the real life version surely?

Jayyylo

985 posts

148 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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BrownBottle said:
Jayyylo said:
Has anyone every conducted an experiment between games to see if lap times are comparable or do they get faster with better games and technology updates? e.g. same car around the same track in gt3, gt4, forza 3 and 4, ac, project cars etc
I haven't seen lap time comparisons between games but they shouldn't really get faster, the idea should be to get as close as possible to the lap time of the real life version surely?
Very true. The principal still holds though. Hopefully games aren't quicker than real life.

There was the old top gear episode with JC and the nsx lapping laguna seca where he couldn't get near his playstation time, but he's a long way off racer standard.

When I have some free time I might try a few runs of the TG track and compare my times to the TG power laps set by stig.

kowalski655

14,656 posts

144 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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You will probably always be faster in a game as you don't have that real life fear of crashing and dieing.

BrownBottle

1,373 posts

137 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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This video of AC does quite a good comparison, the real driver is PH member RobM77 I believe although I don't think the AC lap is his, they look pretty close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jQouH8oCGo

Ideally we would need RobM77 to tell us his real and virtual lap times to see if it is really accurate.

craste

1,222 posts

208 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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For those still umming and arrring whether to buy a Thrustmaster T300Rs all I can say is do it, you won't disappointed.

It has transformed Driveclub for me as its now like a different game!

Well worth the money it feels amazing!

LiamD

254 posts

202 months

Wednesday 18th February 2015
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craste said:
For those still umming and arrring whether to buy a Thrustmaster T300Rs all I can say is do it, you won't disappointed.

It has transformed Driveclub for me as its now like a different game!

Well worth the money it feels amazing!
Do you have a wheel stand you use with it? If so which one do you recommend?

MikeyLCR

501 posts

182 months

Wednesday 18th February 2015
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If it's any help I use a Wheelstand Pro with my G25 and according to the manufacturer the fitting to mount the t300 is identical to that of the G25/G27 so should fit. The pedal set on the 300 won't mount to the stand as is but they will ship the bits for 10 euro. I never bothered to mount my pedals anyway as they get in the way when I fold it up.


smithyithy

7,258 posts

119 months

Wednesday 18th February 2015
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I'm considering a Wheelstand Pro as it's perfect for my space / setup requirements, I'd just need to decide on the right wheel..

Does anyone know where to buy those Porsche wheels that Wheelstand have mounted to them? What brand are they?

Mattygooner

5,301 posts

205 months

Wednesday 18th February 2015
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Its horses for courses, all of the 3 or 4 sims have a reason to play them, all bar iracing are very well priced considering.

Current build of Pcars has a good FFB feel now, AI is still off for me, but other than that, it is a very good package. I now have 169 hours logged on Pcars since the very early stages, I think it is a fantastic piece of kit.

Having now got a good bit of software for recording, I will start to put some videos up, the first of which demonstrates things that you can only do in Pcars.

http://youtu.be/DbUrk5_xh8M

Day to night transition sped up to x60 (so very quickly) on LeMans in quali with 45 other cars on track....

Ignore the terrible driving hehe (yes, I know that spin) and with no aids, full 3 pedal and h pattern, its bloody good fun!

And check out that sun!

Tony33

1,125 posts

123 months

Wednesday 18th February 2015
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kowalski655 said:
You will probably always be faster in a game as you don't have that real life fear of crashing and dieing.
True although bravery is a given for top race drivers. I think the more likely aspect is the ability to hotlap for millions of laps at the same track conditions. Back in the day when F1 used to stay at a race track for testing the midpack runners would be beating the race pole time in similar conditions just through the learning gained through additional track time.

Throw in the fact you can change a set of springs and roll bars in a mouse click in a race sim and there is the opportunity to try far more setup combinations than any real race team could dream of.