Gran Turismo 6....Official thread.

Gran Turismo 6....Official thread.

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Richyvrlimited

1,826 posts

165 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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CBR JGWRR said:
Well, with over a 1000 cars, there's going to be give somewhere, like the Veyron being a standard car as one example...
More proof PD need to focus on quality rather than quantity

Meoricin

2,880 posts

171 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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Richyvrlimited said:
CBR JGWRR said:
Well, with over a 1000 cars, there's going to be give somewhere, like the Veyron being a standard car as one example...
More proof PD need to focus on quality rather than quantity
So long as the physics don't suffer, I'd rather have more cars than super-HD realistic ones. Also, it's not like they're creating lots of new 'standard' model cars to add, they're just reusing the 900~ they already had. Veyron being the only exception for whatever reason (unable to get access to one?) Why remove them? The game wouldn't be any better without them.

As for the sound, I listened to that (admittedly appalling) Focus ST which was linked above, and then clicked through to the Top Gear test track footage. The drive-by sounded identical, so not really evidence for them sounding different.

flat-planedCrank

3,697 posts

205 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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I've been playing GT since it's inception as well - bought a PS1, PS2 and PS3 to play them smile



IMO the quality has varied a bit, at least in terms of what I want from a GT game. I've kept on coming back to the series but I played GT5 quite a bit less than I thought I would.


I'm glad they have moved the physics engine forward again, that was one of the key features that keep me coming back to the series. I've watched videos of most (console) racing games and many seem to go with a more arcade-like handling feel - E.g. it's as if you can see them 'pop' into oversteer rather than it being a natural progression.

I'd not say that GT has been flawless, but the feeling of weight and inherent 'rightness' of the handling model has always been a cut above the rest imo. It feels 'honest'.

That's also not to say that I'd imagine GT to be a pure sim - it's a console game after all. It needs to be accessible to a wide range of people and to be interacted with by a wide range of controllers from dualshock pads to full wheel & pedal setups.






The Standard and Premium cars system in GT5 did undermine the game for me quite a lot. For all the drawbacks, I do prefer the cockpit view's feeling of connection with the car. It also means you can accurately see the position of the steering wheel when playing with the dualshock. So the lack of cockpit view for the standard cars felt like a backwards step - these Standard cars felt like they were relics from the older games.

I know that cockpit view was added to the standard cars in a later patch but to be honest I'd already stopped playing the game.





Yes, the sounds. Been disappointed with the engine sounds as others have been. Some of the cars sound great, exactly as you would imagine, yet others - that you know sound amazing - turn into a mechanical drone.

I really thought that GT5 would fix that - surely that was the area that needed more attention? So when it released it added to the other areas of disappointment to reduce the amount of time I spent playing GT5 (loading times, etc.)




I remain hopeful for GT6 - but that video of the Xbow lapping Silverstone didn't exactly fuel my enthusiasm. It's not yet the finished article I know, and I'll certainly be trying that demo in July smile

Edited by flat-planedCrank on Saturday 18th May 01:15

CJ1987

4,295 posts

154 months

budgie smuggler

5,409 posts

161 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Meoricin said:
As for the sound, I listened to that (admittedly appalling) Focus ST which was linked above, and then clicked through to the Top Gear test track footage. The drive-by sounded identical, so not really evidence for them sounding different.
Maybe on the drive-by they do, but when you're actually playing the game they sound nothing alike. In GT5 the car sounds like it has a pipe organ for an engine.

In car Focus ST GT5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSA15apL3s4#t=84s

In car Focus ST real life http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egh-SCXmh7k#t=79s

Sorry to keep droning on (ho ho) about it, but it completely spoils the immersion of the game for me.

Edited by budgie smuggler on Saturday 18th May 09:54

S3_Graham

12,830 posts

201 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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budgie smuggler said:
Meoricin said:
As for the sound, I listened to that (admittedly appalling) Focus ST which was linked above, and then clicked through to the Top Gear test track footage. The drive-by sounded identical, so not really evidence for them sounding different.
Maybe on the drive-by they do, but when you're actually playing the game they sound nothing alike. In GT5 the car sounds like it has a pipe organ for an engine.

In car Focus ST GT5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSA15apL3s4#t=84s

In car Focus ST real life http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egh-SCXmh7k#t=79s

Sorry to keep droning on (ho ho) about it, but it completely spoils the immersion of the game for me.

Edited by budgie smuggler on Saturday 18th May 09:54
Half the cars I pick to drive are because they sound nice!

Real E46 M3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vESMekcilRk&fea...

Forza E46 M3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa3vYweoWSw&fea...

GT5 E46 M3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTaZh3yrpV0&fea...

I'm not a forza fanboy, just proof that it can be done. I'll also admit that they probably over did it a bit on forza, but blimey it sounds good!! I hope they do get it right, I'll buy it either way as I do like GT5!!

Richyvrlimited

1,826 posts

165 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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I've barely played forza, but damn that sounds nice.

I'm also very impressed by how much detail they get into the scenery. Unless its the nub urging, GT5s tracks are so bland. Yes I'm aware circuits aren't the most interesting of places, but they're not as bland as GT5 makes out.

Also that audio, bleh, sounds exactly like the focus in the in car shot, rubbish.

S3_Graham

12,830 posts

201 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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The speed effect along with head camera moving about independently of the car was genius from Shift IMO. Made it really feel like you were driving!

RobGT81

5,229 posts

188 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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The 787B sound is about as close as they could get it smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beFl9J6xRCU

AndyS2

869 posts

260 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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TurboBlue said:




What's not to like?
Let's hope they get the sound as good as Dirt3. I'm not holding my breathfrown

S3_Graham

12,830 posts

201 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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RobGT81 said:
The 787B sound is about as close as they could get it smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beFl9J6xRCU
Without making your ears bleed anyway hehe

LandR

6,249 posts

256 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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Still not all cars will have cockpits.
Still there will be 2 standards of cars, even if they aren't calling it Standard / Premium.

pmjg66

2,710 posts

216 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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LandR said:
Still not all cars will have cockpits.
Still there will be 2 standards of cars, even if they aren't calling it Standard / Premium.
Thanks for the update wink

Mr Whippy

29,120 posts

243 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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S3_Graham said:
RobGT81 said:
The 787B sound is about as close as they could get it smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beFl9J6xRCU
Without making your ears bleed anyway hehe
It does sound good considering you make sound/sample sets for racing around, not blipping. With more samples around idle/low rpm it could probably be better still.

Not sure it needed a 4 minute video though haha biggrin

Dave

S3_Graham

12,830 posts

201 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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pmjg66 said:
LandR said:
Still not all cars will have cockpits.
Still there will be 2 standards of cars, even if they aren't calling it Standard / Premium.
Thanks for the update wink
Lucky to have an insider aren't we

Richyvrlimited

1,826 posts

165 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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S3_Graham said:
Lucky to have an insider aren't we
Sarcasm?

Anyway what he said is true, it came from the horses mouth.

http://www.gtplanet.net/kazunori-yamauchi-on-gran-...

RobGT81

5,229 posts

188 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Richyvrlimited said:
Sarcasm?

Anyway what he said is true, it came from the horses mouth.

http://www.gtplanet.net/kazunori-yamauchi-on-gran-...
Glad that has been clarified, again.

pmjg66

2,710 posts

216 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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RobGT81 said:
Richyvrlimited said:
Sarcasm?

Anyway what he said is true, it came from the horses mouth.

http://www.gtplanet.net/kazunori-yamauchi-on-gran-...
Glad that has been clarified, again.
Great to be updated again wink

y2blade

Original Poster:

56,158 posts

217 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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GT6 was being shown on the live feed during Nurburgring 24hr just now...looks good.

They showed it for a full lap of the N24hr Layout.
bow









CJ1987

4,295 posts

154 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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y2blade said:
GT6 was being shown on the live feed during Nurburgring 24hr just now...looks good.

They showed it for a full lap of the N24hr Layout.
bow
link pls?