Battlefield 4 (PS4)

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lemmingjames

7,456 posts

204 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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thainy77 said:
Breaking even is a good game for me, none of those last night!! I think lag compensation is fking me.
Had to rage quit the hardcore game last night due to that, was shooting some dude with the AK5C, hit marker but no kill, turns around and one shot snap shot drops me with a sniper rifle while under suppression.

lemmingjames

7,456 posts

204 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Saw this on another forum
[url]http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/latest-battlefield-4-update-brings-back-old-problems/[url]

The server and game updates that were paired with the release of the Dragon’s Teeth expansion are reportedly breaking the game, nearly sending the development team’s improvements back to square one.

The Battlefield 4 forums are exploding with reports that multiplayer matches are suffering heavily from lag spikes, mutual kills, one hit kills, kills behind cover, rubberbanding and worsened hit detection. I’m sure these all sound familiar. These issues have plagued all Battlefield 4 players at one point or another. And now they’re almost as common as they were several months ago.
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XslaneyX

1,334 posts

142 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Stuck on the rain screen as you load the game up.....gotta go work soon so messed up my afternoon!

youngsyr

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14,742 posts

192 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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How come you guys weren't playing the new maps last night - would have joined you if you were?

Havoc856

2,072 posts

179 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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youngsyr said:
How come you guys weren't playing the new maps last night - would have joined you if you were?
PH server is running core maps atm, can't pick and choose the best maps from each of the dlc and add them in unfortunately. Talk about locked down server side admin rights!

youngsyr

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14,742 posts

192 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Havoc856 said:
youngsyr said:
How come you guys weren't playing the new maps last night - would have joined you if you were?
PH server is running core maps atm, can't pick and choose the best maps from each of the dlc and add them in unfortunately. Talk about locked down server side admin rights!
Oh right, didn't even realise we had our own server up now! Thought it was only Snafu's server that was up and running?

Anyway, I'm done on the new assignments and medals, so will happily play any map. biggrin

Anyone fancy some squad death match shennanigans - I need the 50 wins medal! paperbag

Jasandjules

69,869 posts

229 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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AA999 said:
That "should" work in favour of you to be honest.... the more lag between you and your opponents should mean that the "client side hit detection" should be more in your balance.
Every shot fired at you by an opponent will only be reported to the server if your connection is fast enough to report it in time for the specified server delay allowance....if it is not reported within the time frame set by the server then that hit goes unreported (ie. you do not receive damage for that hit).
Yep, I hear this a lot. But in reality it is different.

For example, the other day I was killed by a rifle. There was no person on my screen to shoot at, just the rifle moving along and firing.... Once I died, the person with the rifle appeared on screen.

I frequently have people come through a doorway, see, shoot and kill me, THEN appear on my screen.

I've got kills a few times by simply wandering near a doorway and firing at an empty doorway.... If someone is unlucky enough to be coming through it at the time (even though not on my screen) they get shot....

I can fly a vehicle and it lags, when it unlags, I've hit the ground.

I can be shot down by missiles which hit me, THEN I hear the "beep" of the rocket launch..

I've played on a mate's system with a good 6mb, then it is a totally different ballgame and I tend to be MVP with a 3:1 KDR...


Havoc856

2,072 posts

179 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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youngsyr said:
Oh right, didn't even realise we had our own server up now! Thought it was only Snafu's server that was up and running?

Anyway, I'm done on the new assignments and medals, so will happily play any map. biggrin

Anyone fancy some squad death match shennanigans - I need the 50 wins medal! paperbag
I believe Snaf has donated his in the meantime!

IainT V6

886 posts

176 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Stumbled into the PH server tonight - enjoyed that!

Does no one use a mic though? Bit of comms with the team would've been good....

Added to favourites and I'll see you guys again soon. I'll be up for the next organised Fri night carnage smile

youngsyr

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14,742 posts

192 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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IainT V6 said:
Stumbled into the PH server tonight - enjoyed that!

Does no one use a mic though? Bit of comms with the team would've been good....

Added to favourites and I'll see you guys again soon. I'll be up for the next organised Fri night carnage smile
Was good fun (until Judge RPGed my chopper of death frown)! smile

Most of us have mics and will chat, but lack the organisation. I had a chat party set up, but forgot to send out invites!

youngsyr

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14,742 posts

192 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Havoc856 said:
I believe Snaf has donated his in the meantime!
Nice one Snaf! smile

With these feet

5,728 posts

215 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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To add to Jas ^^ I find it rare that I can get to the trigger to return fire in a face to face, basically I see them, go for the trigger hear thud thud then off to map it is... Only once or twice have I had it where Ive shot 2 opponents in front of me, it really does seem like they see me long before I see them.

As for the shooting through doorways, on Metro Ive been shot while in the corner of the L shaped corridor (from the ticket office) by someone sniping on the platform. Tell me if Im wrong but you dont have a straight line of sight from there anyway.

confucuis

1,303 posts

124 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Sent out a couple of more friend requests there so if you get one its probably me!!

crispyshark

1,262 posts

145 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Evening lads! Sorry to sound stoopid but what is the PH server titled? Pistonheads or PH?

thainy77

3,347 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Pistonheads i think.

youngsyr

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14,742 posts

192 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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crispyshark said:
Evening lads! Sorry to sound stoopid but what is the PH server titled? Pistonheads or PH?
Search for "matters" in the server browser and you'll find it.

Jasandjules

69,869 posts

229 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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With these feet said:
To add to Jas ^^ I find it rare that I can get to the trigger to return fire in a face to face, basically I see them, go for the trigger hear thud thud then off to map it is... .
Same. I can also aim at someone, see the hit marker on their head go X, then die. And they have 100%. I can also have someone coming towards me re-loading, so I shoot them, die, and they have 100% health.....They don't even open fire on my screen... Maybe a heart attack?!

I can also run around a corner, kneel, reload, then suddenly keel over which I assume is from the shock of the person who was shooting at me............ Or maybe it is lag.

But these very nervous players who die at the mere sight of an enemy gain courage when I play on a system with 6mpbs speeds.. And tend to kill people heading towards them and everything.


DoubleSix

11,710 posts

176 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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I am now experiencing this too!

Didn't really have it before and was able to enter a fire-fight with a chance of actually killing the other chap. Seems useless now. Doesn't suit my play style at all either as I like to run and gun and rely on good twitch abilities to rack 'em up.

Only way I can secure a decent score now is to snipe but these new maps don't lend themselves too well to that.

Cbull

4,464 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Was BF3 this bad for lag? Not that I give a toss about K/D but it'd be allot higher if there was none of this rubbish.

IainT V6 said:
Does no one use a mic though? Bit of comms with the team would've been good....
We're usually in a chat party, just go on the chat party and jump in.

youngsyr said:
Anyone fancy some squad death match shennanigans - I need the 50 wins medal! paperbag
Absolutely if you haven't got it already, probably my favorite game mode. Unfortunately you can't setup a party for this so it's a case of jumping in your mates games and even then it's a struggle to change teams. Worth a crack though.

AA999

5,180 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Jasandjules said:
Yep, I hear this a lot. But in reality it is different.
The map servers/net code are more feck'd up than I thought.

Haven't been playing much at all over the past few months, as my patience ran out.

I do wonder though if the players that are benefiting from the lag of others are able to get this benefit every time they log on? Or whether it is random and/or totally dependent on the connection speed to that particular map?

I can't remember a single time when it felt that I had the edge over any other player. I'm in the same boat as many in that one-to-one encounters seem like I am always playing about 2 seconds behind everyone else.