Battlefield 4 (PS4)

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Mansells Tash

5,713 posts

206 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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AK5-C carbine is very good as it has little kick meaning you can easily hit targets, bulldog is good for close range due to the damage it causes, other than the SVR is fantastic for mid to long range on hardcore.

XslaneyX

1,334 posts

142 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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Sorry i couldn't join the party chat last night Havoc. I had my fiancee and 6 week old next to me fast asleep and didn't want to disturb them by chatting away!hehe

Havoc856

2,072 posts

179 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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It's ok mate, Between Chunty and my rapid fall from my initial 34-0 savagery there was plenty of negativity in the chat!

chuntington101

5,733 posts

236 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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Havoc856 said:
It's ok mate, Between Chunty and my rapid fall from my initial 34-0 savagery there was plenty of negativity in the chat!
I blame it all on you! Lol

XslaneyX

1,334 posts

142 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Entertaining evening last night hehe

Had my worst ever round last night. Comedy rages on chat beerfuriousshoot

might be worth trying to find a decent server when we are all on again and get some dedicated roles going? Used to lone wolfing lots with the AS Val but want to be a repair or revive we just to mix the game up a bit.

Number 97

84 posts

107 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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When do you guys normally play? I'm level 122 and still play a couple of times per week. I normally lone wolf it on the ADHD server and would be interested in playing with a group from time to time. I'm keep close to a 1.0 KDR with the odd great game then the odd awful one.

I like to play Recon but tend to go for Assault as backup.

Havoc856

2,072 posts

179 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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KD isn't important in the PH clan... Luckily...

It's all about having fun or ranting loudly.

Add us on PSN. Normally at least two or three on of a night post 2000hrs.

Jasandjules

69,885 posts

229 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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After many months not playing this (Fallout 4 and Battlefront won the day) I came back to this last night.

Good to see the spawning is still s**t and the players still run in front of you whilst you fire and RPG so you blow up.... Ahhhhhh...

Havoc856

2,072 posts

179 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Worse than that the servers are currently flooded with Turks and Arabs meaning even IF you hit them with two mags they kill you instantly and waddle off with light damage

Jasandjules

69,885 posts

229 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Havoc856 said:
Worse than that the servers are currently flooded with Turks and Arabs meaning even IF you hit them with two mags they kill you instantly and waddle off with light damage
Always had a lot from KSA - seem to be a lot of Japanese on the EU servers ?!? Their 100mbps destroys me!

Havoc856

2,072 posts

179 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Yeah the japs are notoriously difficult to kill. I saw one flying a death coffin and mopping up 18-0 whilst tanks hit it repeatedly with the main gun... Yet it did not fall from the sky...

Jasandjules

69,885 posts

229 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Just really getting my eye back in for BF1 launch... Mind, I keep pressing the wrong button and launching a grenade at myself...

Mansells Tash

5,713 posts

206 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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Havoc856 said:
Worse than that the servers are currently flooded with Turks and Arabs meaning even IF you hit them with two mags they kill you instantly and waddle off with light damage
Given I'm living in Qatar and play on the EU servers I can say from my side that I've never seen that. I'm often getting hit and dive behind a wall, get 2 or 3 steps then die from cover.

lemmingjames

7,456 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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Dont worry Havoc is just having a tough time and wont accept that his internet is too good to play or that the refresh rate on his tv isnt as good as it should be/good enough for gaming

Mansells Tash

5,713 posts

206 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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A workmans tools and all that wink

Havoc856

2,072 posts

179 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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Mansells Tash said:
Given I'm living in Qatar and play on the EU servers I can say from my side that I've never seen that. I'm often getting hit and dive behind a wall, get 2 or 3 steps then die from cover.
I'll bite.

James as said last night 40 meg and 23ms at the max. Sony TV with 6ms refresh so at most I'm 29ms.

What you're describing is pretty much standard fare since day one. It's magnified when there are 20 odd players with huge delays 50ms and above - getting killed when behind cover and seeing your body lag back to where they saw you isn't uncommon.

I think in the last week I've been on 15 different servers and only two were at the standard that you could call 'meh it's battlefield'.

I can bias connection to different devices and see a substantial improvement in my KD as I can get away with a LOT more on 1mbps than 40. The game is bias to the lowest common denominator. Concern is with it set that low that other games and services are barely functional.

This has been since day one and will be until Bf1 comes out.

I started out on a Bt line that gave me about 4 meg max and c.50ms. It was bad but worked to a degree. I had what you're describing and I got away with some seriously "should be at the respawn screen" moments. Now I've changed to a separate line to the BT through a single stack into fibre and I get 40meg and 23ms max. If my internet was bad id have the same issue I had on BT. I don't. If my internet was bad I'd struggle in Doom and Rainbow 6 - I do, but it's my own lack of talent there. The game is slick and hit detection not an issue.

As a random point turbo toaster I think is in UAE and I don't have an issue with him - aside from the occasional sliding on his knees.

As for the tools comment part of my job is QoS for WAN over multiple systems and LAN. So I think I'm pretty well qualified to be able to back up my statements.

Last nights Metro was a joke. People in the ceilings, people in glitches in buildings and pouring rounds with a bipod down into targets that just wouldn't go down... But the frame rate certainly did...

Edited by Havoc856 on Thursday 11th August 13:09

lemmingjames

7,456 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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So see you tonight then laugh

Havoc856

2,072 posts

179 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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Reinstalling after last nights deletion

KryptonKid09

193 posts

121 months

Friday 12th August 2016
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Havoc856 said:
I'll bite.

James as said last night 40 meg and 23ms at the max. Sony TV with 6ms refresh so at most I'm 29ms.

What you're describing is pretty much standard fare since day one. It's magnified when there are 20 odd players with huge delays 50ms and above - getting killed when behind cover and seeing your body lag back to where they saw you isn't uncommon.

I think in the last week I've been on 15 different servers and only two were at the standard that you could call 'meh it's battlefield'.

I can bias connection to different devices and see a substantial improvement in my KD as I can get away with a LOT more on 1mbps than 40. The game is bias to the lowest common denominator. Concern is with it set that low that other games and services are barely functional.
23ms sounds a little high for an FTTC line (assuming it is). Is it noisy? It sounds like you have some DLM active that's applying interleaving. I'm currently on a plain old ADSL service as my cabinet isn't fibre enabled yet and my latency between my gateway and ISP is around 12ms. That's on a fastpath profile. I.e. with no interleaving applied.
How do you have your PS4 connected to your gateway?
Although your downstream rate has little to do with the gaming experience you could always apply some QoS to the PS4 and see if that helps. I'd throttle back the rest of your network enabled kit on the upstream as that could provide a benefit. That way you could give the PS4 max upstream bandwidth.
Have you assessed the buffer bloat present on your link? That could cause issues like you're seeing. DSLReports' 'speed tester' has a very good buffer bloat assessment as part of its test.

Have you measured the input latency of your TV? I ask as I have one of the 'fastest' TV's that's been produced in modern times and it presents around 12-13ms of input lag. Most modern displays are at around 30ms plus.

When we were playing with you recently, I didn't have any latency issues, they were all talent related! I know how frustrating it can be to have them though (I played BF4 for well over a year when it was released).

Paul

XslaneyX

1,334 posts

142 months

Friday 12th August 2016
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My mind is blown reading that technical detail on connections. Genuinely fascinated! Never really looked further then ip settings laugh