Bloodborne PS4!

[LandR]

Blood Starved Beast in depth 4 chalice dungeon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFf4Mgb_z-k

Spent ages on him last night, failed all attempts. He has a fairly quick and brutal one hit kill.

[Baryonyx]

Steven_RW said:

Where is the second save point? IE how far do I need to go to get to a point that means I don't need to keep re-doing the initial streets? Is it after the two were wolves?

Yes, the second lantern is on the bridge where the wolves are, at the far end. There is a simple boss to beat there, and the lantern is accessible after that fight.

[Steven_RW]

LandR said:

Have you opened up the shortcut by the house with the little girl who is looking for her mother & father ?

IIRC that path I said to take will let you open up that.

No I haven't. I have only been up the first ladder, along the street to the fire, killed everyone including the "banging on the big door" baddie. I have then made it up to the werewolf bridge twice and another time I have been down the area to the left of the red lantern and laughing ladies house. I'll need to work out where this shortcut is you mention :-).

First game I have looked forward to playing in a while. Alien Isolation was similar in terms of challenge but this style of game is also new to me as I haven't played another of the earlier one :-).

Thanks

SRW

[Steven_RW]

Baryonyx said:

Yes, the second lantern is on the bridge where the wolves are, at the far end. There is a simple boss to beat there, and the lantern is accessible after that fight.

Okay thanks. It will save me consistently having to redo all the first stuff!

Thanks,

SRW

[Steve Evil]

Instead of going up on the bridge, after you've killed (or ignored) the banging on the door guy, go to the far left corner of the area and there should be some barrels there up against a fence, smash through those and you'll see some dog cages below through a gap in the fence, drop down, kill or ignore the dogs and run to the left, proceed straight ahead through a tunnel, then a house, watching out for a guy on your left as you go through, then another guy as you emerge. Head up the stairs on the far side of the house and you'll come to a gate which will open up a second route from the lantern you're using.

[Steven_RW]

Steve Evil said:

Instead of going up on the bridge, after you've killed (or ignored) the banging on the door guy, go to the far left corner of the area and there should be some barrels there up against a fence, smash through those and you'll see some dog cages below through a gap in the fence, drop down, kill or ignore the dogs and run to the left, proceed straight ahead through a tunnel, then a house, watching out for a guy on your left as you go through, then another guy as you emerge. Head up the stairs on the far side of the house and you'll come to a gate which will open up a second route from the lantern you're using.

Hi - very helpful thanks. I broke those barrels and went down that way and killed the dogs but carried on the opposite direction into the kinda church thing and then to the high up walls above the sewers with the rats and so on. It was only once I was low on health and potions that I decided to go back the way to the dogs, realised I couldn't jump back up and started round the way you suggest.. I met the two big guys (same as the door banger) and killed the first but accidentally got killed by the second. It was late, so i gave up. Now I know to drop down to the dogs but go the other way and open the gate for future speeding up of my route.

Many thanks. This reminds me of Skyrim and how people shared info back then too. Woot!

SRW

[LandR]

Those big guys with the bricks are very very easy to parry. Much easier than dodging and attacking.

[Steven_RW]

LandR said:

Those big guys with the bricks are very very easy to parry. Much easier than dodging and attacking.

I presume this means when I utilise his attack against him or take advantage of the timing. What button does that?

I believe I accidentally did that to someone and did some sort of "special move" was quite exciting but mainly unexpected. :-)

Thx

SRW

[Steve Evil]

Steven_RW said:

LandR said:

Those big guys with the bricks are very very easy to parry. Much easier than dodging and attacking.

I presume this means when I utilise his attack against him or take advantage of the timing. What button does that?

I believe I accidentally did that to someone and did some sort of "special move" was quite exciting but mainly unexpected. :-)

Thx

SRW

Just as they start the downswing of their attack, or are jumping at you - not when they raise the brick - but just as they go to smash it down, that's the moment to fire your gun at them, this will result in a *ding* noise and means you should move in quick to their front and press R1, which will trigger a visceral attack and do huge damage.

Most enemies can be parried in this way, though some larger bosses and other enemies are immune to smaller firearms. It's a case of experimenting.

[LandR]

It's bizzare that the hardest enemies in the game are those bell maidens in the chalice dungeons that summon red spiders.

Put 2 or 3 of them in a room and it's nearly impossible.

Edited by LandR on Wednesday 15th April 20:09

[Baryonyx]

At what point are you supposed to go to Castle Cainhurst? I'm level 70, and have just beat the Shadow of Yharnam, but I note that Cainhurst appears on the third tombstone along with the unseen village (which is full of high level wkers).


EDIT: I can see, I'm not ready for Cainhurst yet! Make sure, if you go there, the first thing you do is activate the lantern behind the gate!. Stumble a little further and you're likely to be killed very, very quickly be enemies that you won't see coming. If you don't activate the lantern, you can't go back to Cainhurst as the carriage that takes you there will only appear once.



I've had quite a productive night, anyway. A friend of mine finished work late so tried to summon me to fight Paarl. Well, that was tricky. I didn't know the way to Paarl, so I had to take directions. Then on getting there, we couldn't connect, even using a password. Then we ditched the password and miraculously connected. However, he didn't realise it was me he had connected with, so as I fought Paarl he ran off to a corner to text me and tell me someone else had entered his game! I was under the impression that Paarl was going to be rock hard, but we flattened him. I then went back and beat him again on my own on the trot, as I had no other option but to forge on. I fking whopped him then too, he's as soft as ste!


I ended my session after finding Rom. He seems a bit tougher (or rather, his minions do) but I think I can beat him, if I just flank him.

Edited by Baryonyx on Thursday 16th April 02:12

[LandR]

Baryonyx said:

At what point are you supposed to go to Castle Cainhurst? I'm level 70, and have just beat the Shadow of Yharnam, but I note that Cainhurst appears on the third tombstone along with the unseen village (which is full of high level wkers).


EDIT: I can see, I'm not ready for Cainhurst yet! Make sure, if you go there, the first thing you do is activate the lantern behind the gate!. Stumble a little further and you're likely to be killed very, very quickly be enemies that you won't see coming. If you don't activate the lantern, you can't go back to Cainhurst as the carriage that takes you there will only appear once.



I've had quite a productive night, anyway. A friend of mine finished work late so tried to summon me to fight Paarl. Well, that was tricky. I didn't know the way to Paarl, so I had to take directions. Then on getting there, we couldn't connect, even using a password. Then we ditched the password and miraculously connected. However, he didn't realise it was me he had connected with, so as I fought Paarl he ran off to a corner to text me and tell me someone else had entered his game! I was under the impression that Paarl was going to be rock hard, but we flattened him. I then went back and beat him again on my own on the trot, as I had no other option but to forge on. I fking whopped him then too, he's as soft as ste!


I ended my session after finding Rom. He seems a bit tougher (or rather, his minions do) but I think I can beat him, if I just flank him.

Edited by Baryonyx on Thursday 16th April 02:12

I did Cainhurst at lvl 70. I didn't think it was that bad, and I managed to kill the boss first time.

I don't want to go higher than 70 on this character, I think that's enough to finish NG and it seems to be a good level to get consistent PvP in the nightmare frontier.

ROM I did at 59, I think.

My Rom fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i98lchYROYU, just stay to the side of it. I just ignored the spiders but it is easier if you clear the FIRST batch. ROM doesn't aggro until you take a chunk of his health off and he teleports. So if you clear the first batch, you get free hits into ROM and after he teleports you have half the number of spiders to deal with.

Also kill it with fire.

Later on you can fight ROM again in a Chalice Dungeon, in a small room. He can be a real problem in a confined space!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4KgAcTWxRE - ROM in Chalice Dungeon

Edited by LandR on Thursday 16th April 08:22

[LandR]

I got to depth 5 defiled chalice dungeons last night, these are tough. They force you to have 50% HP. The boss fights are really hard, Keeper of the Old Lords took so many attempts. You can take at most 2 hits, but a lot of attacks are 1 hit kills.

[DoubleSix]

The boss fights are the low point of the game for me.

Love the exploration, combat and environments but bosses should be a relic of the 90's imho...

[LookAtMyCat]

DoubleSix said:

The boss fights are the low point of the game for me.

Love the exploration, combat and environments but bosses should be a relic of the 90's imho...

Are you for real?

[DoubleSix]

LookAtMyCat said:

DoubleSix said:

The boss fights are the low point of the game for me.

Love the exploration, combat and environments but bosses should be a relic of the 90's imho...

Are you for real?

Yup.

They don't offer me much. Just a case of learning a preset pattern and and avoiding frustrating insta-death. I know Bloodborne is a hybrid of genres but that element just reminds me I'm playing a computer game with big health bars popping up and breaks the emersion of exploring 'other' worlds...

[LookAtMyCat]

I, and I would guess most FromSoft players, love the bosses. Nothing better than first meeting something which seems completely impossible to beat at first; then finally beating them. It's a great feeling.

IMO Dark Souls is still a far superior game; the single greatest piece of entertainment media ever created in my view. In terms of 'exploring other worlds' it is leagues ahead of Bloodborne and if that's your favourite aspect of Bloodborne, you should immediately play Dark Souls (not DS2).

For me the best thing about DS/DS2/BB is in most games, your character levels up and you get more powerful. In these games, YOU level up and get better at the game through practice, repetition and the desire to beat the odds.

[LandR]

I agree about Dark Souls, I think it goes:

Dark Souls > Bloodborne > Demon Souls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dark Souls 2

Dark Souls just got PvP right. They took what they had in Demon Souls and perfected it. You could invade anywhere, get invaded anywhere, summoning was a lot easier and you could tell if someone was available to be summoned or not. Also all the covenants worked great and the DLC had some of the best boss fights in any FROM game.

[Steven_RW]

LookAtMyCat said:

IMO Dark Souls is still a far superior game; the single greatest piece of entertainment media ever created in my view. In terms of 'exploring other worlds' it is leagues ahead of Bloodborne and if that's your favourite aspect of Bloodborne, you should immediately play Dark Souls (not DS2).

Views:

Comments like this, made with such enthusiasm make me want to immediately act and buy the game. I asked the guy in GAME should I start with the older versions of the game or go straight into BloodBorne as my first experience. He said Bloodborne due to being made for PS4. Maybe he was wrong..

Exploring is my favourite thing in games along with puzzle solving (just played through Abes Odyssey that was free on Ps+Network. Experiencing someone elses world that they have created and imagined in such great detail is just a great way to spend some spare time... Thus why Skyrim is probably the best game ever imo.

Add an element of real challenge (Alien Isolation, Bloodborne)where staying alive is a proper skill and you have what I call a great game. Worthy of attempt after attempt after attempt to get further. So inconclusion, enjoying this game thoroughly, no matter how PAP I currently am at it :-).

Update from my recent adventures:

I met my first big boss at the end of the bridge near the werewolf's. I am still level zero and whilst I did manage to survive for a while running around dodging and occasionally pathetically attacking (managed to reduce say 15% or 20% of whole life bar at the max). Exciting and interesting to see the next challenge.

I also learned how to beat the brick guys without using fire from a distance. Satisfying.

I also managed to get back up and open the gate that means I have two options of which route to take to get back to the bridge with the werewolfs. I have no skills to beat them in open combat so hid in the house where they couldn't (easily..) hit me.

Questions:

I died at the first boss and bounced to dreamland. There is now a doll that is living where previously inanimate. She offered me the option to level up but when I clicked on each of my stats (life, endurance, strength, skill) it just kept popping up saying choose an attribute.. I thought I was by clicking on each one of the attributes individually..) I noted at that point that I had zero cash/bloodsouls or whatever they are as I had died, so I assume I need to go kick some butt in a level, earn some cash and then choose to go back to dreamland and cash in for some levelling up?

Right near the start of the game after the first save lantern, you COULD choose to fight a big boss at the opposite end of the street to the guy knocking on the door. I've not managed to get close to killing him yet. Assume it is because I am still at the original character level and also that I have no skills at all (basically new to this entire franchise. Good "enough" gamer though..)

Enjoying this chat and think I will go collect Dark Souls second hand today :-)

Oh yeah, this game leaves you to work LOTS out yourself. Fun but challenging. Maybe having played previous versions of the game might have made it more obvious.

Thanks for all inputs.

Steven RW

[Steve Evil]

Steven_RW said:

Questions:

I died at the first boss and bounced to dreamland. There is now a doll that is living where previously inanimate. She offered me the option to level up but when I clicked on each of my stats (life, endurance, strength, skill) it just kept popping up saying choose an attribute.. I thought I was by clicking on each one of the attributes individually..) I noted at that point that I had zero cash/bloodsouls or whatever they are as I had died, so I assume I need to go kick some butt in a level, earn some cash and then choose to go back to dreamland and cash in for some levelling up?

Right near the start of the game after the first save lantern, you COULD choose to fight a big boss at the opposite end of the street to the guy knocking on the door. I've not managed to get close to killing him yet. Assume it is because I am still at the original character level and also that I have no skills at all (basically new to this entire franchise. Good "enough" gamer though..)

Yes, you need to get some blood echoes built up, go around and kill some enemies you know you can beat, if you get killed, always head back to where you died and collect your old blood echoes, or beat a nearby enemy with glowing white eyes. This way you should be able to progress without losing them all. It's a risk vs reward thing. Each time you die, or enter the Hunter's Dream you'll make all the enemies - except bosses - re-spawn. Once you've got a thousand or two saved up, visit the Hunter's Dream and speak to the doll, who will let you up your stats by pressing right once you've got a stat highlighted.

As to the big boss you mention, it's not a boss, just a tough enemy. It's there to teach you that you can't always defeat every enemy and to accept that some fights are best avoided. Those guys are easy to defeat with practice, you just have to get very good at the gun counter and riposte mechanic.

I'd recommend giving this article a read:

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/03/31/tips-playing-bl...

As it's quite an obtuse game when you're starting out and they've got a lot of good tips for people new to the series.

Edited by Steve Evil on Thursday 16th April 14:06