No Mans Sky - looks interesting

No Mans Sky - looks interesting

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sidaorb

5,589 posts

206 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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xjay1337 said:
48 slots!

Is there a way to get free inventory space without having to buy upgrades at drop pods (aside from the first upgrade?)

They all seem to go up by 10k per slot (eg I've bought 7 slot upgrades so my next one is 80k.
Seems a lot to spend.
Not that I know of, that final slot cost 350,000

GrumpyTwig

3,354 posts

157 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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kowalski655 said:
Blimey,that was quick! biggrin
Thank you for looking
I already have ED,barely play it though
It was actually an early access game:Empyrion - Galactic Survival
http://store.steampowered.com/app/383120/

Will need to look into it
Wouldn't waste your time imo, horrible buggy early access rubbish. It had a free weekend a while back and hated it.

Herkybird

82 posts

113 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Xjay - Is there a way to get free inventory space without having to buy upgrades at drop pods (aside from the first upgrade?)

They all seem to go up by 10k per slot (eg I've bought 7 slot upgrades so my next one is 80k.
Seems a lot to spend.

Yes there is - once you've got an Atlas pass V1 if you go to a space station then go to the side opposite where the trader is use the pass to enter the room and there's usually a suit upgrade in there

callmedave

2,686 posts

145 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Herkybird said:
Xjay - Is there a way to get free inventory space without having to buy upgrades at drop pods (aside from the first upgrade?)

They all seem to go up by 10k per slot (eg I've bought 7 slot upgrades so my next one is 80k.
Seems a lot to spend.

Yes there is - once you've got an Atlas pass V1 if you go to a space station then go to the side opposite where the trader is use the pass to enter the room and there's usually a suit upgrade in there
You still gotta pay for this though. same price.

Bullett

10,882 posts

184 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Interesting.

http://www.pcgamer.com/concurrent-players-no-mans-...

Massive drop off but not that unusual. I've not played for a week and only have 10 hours logged, I'll play some more but it's not calling to me like some other games did that I had to play to conclusion as soon as possible. For a game that is about exploring and discovery there is just not enough to discover that is interesting. After the first few planets it all gets a bit samey.

smithyithy

7,238 posts

118 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Wobbegong

15,077 posts

169 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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I did a search for NMS to see if any updates were coming. Seems a lot of people are applying for refunds

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments...

callmedave

2,686 posts

145 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Now someone has filed a lawsuit as the game was not what they were expecting

http://techraptor.net/content/kekraptor-lawsuit-fi...

can you really sue someone for that? Maybe I'll sue Lynx bodyspray as I don't have women chasing after me (I don't actually wear Lynx, it's just an example) or red bull as I still haven't received my wings!!

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Well to be fair there is a whole lot of stuff totally missing in the retail game that was either demo'd or promised by the developers before hand.

A few things gone west people could accept , if they were going to arrive later,but not this much.

When they promise the (remote) chance of face to face meeting yet there is no netcode to even support it ...



xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Hilariously lame if true.

Bet he's American.

Bullett

10,882 posts

184 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Wobbegong said:
I did a search for NMS to see if any updates were coming. Seems a lot of people are applying for refunds

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments...
Ok, if you couldn't run it or had other technical issues or just didn't like it (that what steam refunds are for) then fair enough but playing 88 hours then asking for a refund is taking the p in my opinion.

smithyithy

7,238 posts

118 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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It's a catch-22 in some ways.

You could fire the game up, play ~6 and decide it's not what it was made out to be, then ask for a refund.

You could play 60 hours, then decide it's not what was promised and loads of features aren't there, ask for a refund and get refused on account of 'you should've asked before you played 60 hours'.

The counter to that could be 'well I was under the impression that the features shown and promised would appear later in the game so I didn't want to return the game after a few hours at the risk of missing out on those things' - which is an argument I've read a couple of times and I sort of agree.

Of course, any confusion could easily be cleared up by Hello games simply answering the questions that hundreds have asked them: "Is X, Y and Z in the game, or not?"

At face value, I like the game, it's not perfect and it's not a £50 game, but I'm not 'regretting' the purchase as such.

But after watching the No Man's Lie and all those videos on Youtube showing the interviews with Shaun Murray saying 'yes you can', 'yes you will' and 'yes there is' to dozens of questions about features, I can absolutely see why people are pissed off.

The game itself - good, fine, I like it.

The game that could've been, and was actually described by Shawn and shown in videos and previews - miles better. Hello Games have a lot to answer for, that's for sure. It's one thing to downgrade a game, we've been seeing that for years now (looking at you, Ubisoft) but to go on camera and tell porkies throughout the whole pre-release.. some action needs to be taken, if that means thousands of refunds via Steam to make a dent in HG's profits then so be it.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Don't forget Sony got very heavily involved - Odd for them to do so with an indie studio.

I am in no doubt that Sony bankrolled a lot of the development and promotional stuff and will use it as a platfrom in the future.
For example Sony will build on the world created by Hello Games to have a sort of Portal, or it would not even suprise me if on the PS Neo or other VR platform in the future they make Playstation Network interactive within the No Mans Sky world.

There was a game a while back that was basically a VR chatroom with things to do, design your character and it was very popular.
Basically an MMO RPG .... think about it...

Edited by xjay1337 on Tuesday 30th August 11:07

FourWheelDrift

88,502 posts

284 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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callmedave said:
Now someone has filed a lawsuit as the game was not what they were expecting

http://techraptor.net/content/kekraptor-lawsuit-fi...

can you really sue someone for that? Maybe I'll sue Lynx bodyspray as I don't have women chasing after me (I don't actually wear Lynx, it's just an example) or red bull as I still haven't received my wings!!
Interesting PR spin from someone.

Sony's PR spokesman in this article said:
Did you know that two players have found each other on the day that the game came out?
They might have arranged to meet at the same place on the same planet but did the PR person know they didn't actually 'find' as they could see each other, as Sean Murray had said they could?

8bit

4,862 posts

155 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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callmedave said:
Now someone has filed a lawsuit as the game was not what they were expecting

http://techraptor.net/content/kekraptor-lawsuit-fi...

can you really sue someone for that? Maybe I'll sue Lynx bodyspray as I don't have women chasing after me (I don't actually wear Lynx, it's just an example) or red bull as I still haven't received my wings!!
Nobody's taking that article seriously are they?

callmedave

2,686 posts

145 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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8bit said:
callmedave said:
Now someone has filed a lawsuit as the game was not what they were expecting

http://techraptor.net/content/kekraptor-lawsuit-fi...

can you really sue someone for that? Maybe I'll sue Lynx bodyspray as I don't have women chasing after me (I don't actually wear Lynx, it's just an example) or red bull as I still haven't received my wings!!
Nobody's taking that article seriously are they?
I hope not!

callmedave

2,686 posts

145 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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FourWheelDrift said:
Sony's PR spokesman in this article said:
Did you know that two players have found each other on the day that the game came out?
They might have arranged to meet at the same place on the same planet but did the PR person know they didn't actually 'find' as they could see each other, as Sean Murray had said they could?
One player did not have PSN so I don't see why they would meet anyway. If I'm playing the same game as you but I'm offline, I would expect us to see each other either.

towser

920 posts

211 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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xjay1337 said:
Don't forget Sony got very heavily involved - Odd for them to do so with an indie studio.

I am in no doubt that Sony bankrolled a lot of the development and promotional stuff and will use it as a platfrom in the future.
For example Sony will build on the world created by Hello Games to have a sort of Portal, or it would not even suprise me if on the PS Neo or other VR platform in the future they make Playstation Network interactive within the No Mans Sky world.

There was a game a while back that was basically a VR chatroom with things to do, design your character and it was very popular.
Basically an MMO RPG .... think about it...

Edited by xjay1337 on Tuesday 30th August 11:07
I think this is at the heart of the matter though. Sony's corporate and financial muscle probably forced the game to be released in the cut down state that it's in.

I doubt hello games are sitting happy ( well apart from counting the £s ) with promising one game and delivering another. The Internet never forgets....and all of Shawn Murray's definitive "yes" replies to a bunch of interesting / significant features that haven't been delivered have come back to haunt them.

Whether the gaming community is willing to forgive and forget once these features get ( hopefully ) patched in via free DLC is highly doubtful. They've blown it IMHO as the amount of negative press and cynicism that surround NMS now is pretty much impossible to defuse.

My copy is sitting in my pile of shame where it belongs.

8bit

4,862 posts

155 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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This was a game backed by a major publisher (Sony) who'll have had their own plans as to when the game should be released - I'd be surprised if Elite: Dangerous being on XBone but not PS4 might not have had something to do with it but that's beside the point.

The developers have ambitious plans for the game and, as game developers do all the time, speak of these things during the development process. Once the publisher is on board and starting to demand results from the developers it starts to become clear that the game will not be feature-complete in time for the launch date set by the publisher. They have no choice but to get what they can ready for release date.

Surely this is a far more plausible explanation than "zomg Sean Murray LIED THROUGH HIS TEETH TO ME THE WHOLE TIME!!!one!", no? If you're the sort of person that would tend to the latter explanation then you need to stop preordering games.

ReallyReallyGood

1,622 posts

130 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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8bit said:
Surely this is a far more plausible explanation than "zomg Sean Murray LIED THROUGH HIS TEETH TO ME THE WHOLE TIME!!!one!", no? If you're the sort of person that would tend to the latter explanation then you need to stop preordering games.
I have not bought this game and do not plan to but have been following the criticism. From what I gather the promo videos continue to show functionality not in the released game. That is misrepresentation I would think?