World of Tanks (Vol 2)
Discussion
Yes the gun accuracy is a joke, sometimes cannot hit a thing and other times you hit the impossible.
No doubt the game is a fix in certain games, happened to me twice the least, distance of 2 tanks away shoot sitting still Hellcat (always a Hellcat) and nothing happens with my KV1s.
Impossible to miss the shot so he reloads by that time and I am dead.
No doubt the game is a fix in certain games, happened to me twice the least, distance of 2 tanks away shoot sitting still Hellcat (always a Hellcat) and nothing happens with my KV1s.
Impossible to miss the shot so he reloads by that time and I am dead.
TEKNOPUG said:
I find the biggest issue is with gun accuracy. Some games you can't even hit from point-blank, others you can thread a shot through the eye of the needle. It's farcical. I just log-off and try again.
I try this, if the MM or RNG seems very heavily stacked against me I exit WoT and relaunch the game, just in case I've got a "bad slot" in the server wheel of fortune.Speaking of daft shots, I landed a shot at about 400m into the side of a T-34 on El Halluf. Nothing unusual in any other tank, except I was using the short 122m on the KV-1S, with a dispersion of 0.57m! You don't get luck like that every day.
You see it playing arty and howitzer derp guns at range. Your shot is clearing going to miss, but an unseen hand swerves the shell onto the target for you. It only does that if you still have vision on the target though.
Anyway, I got my 200th Top Gun earlier, with the LOLtracktor of all things.
I'd only recently bought it back on the EU server to try and get the Ace Tanker with it.
The other medal is an Invader, because I have to do every-bloody-thing for my useless team.
Anyway, I got my 200th Top Gun earlier, with the LOLtracktor of all things.
I'd only recently bought it back on the EU server to try and get the Ace Tanker with it.
The other medal is an Invader, because I have to do every-bloody-thing for my useless team.
bstb3 said:
I've not tried the eagle eye perk, but it always seemed tempting. Thing is its behind my usual list of commander perks (Sixth Sense, BIA/ Repairs) so never got round to it. Can certainly see it being useful in the higher tiers where tank on tank battles are longer term - at the low tiers one of the tanks is usually dead before it would register.
I've had it before on my US medium crew, but changed it to something else later. It's handy to see what all those "Critical Hits" actually are.I had a VK3601 tracked in front of me once in my Super Sherman and decided to test eagle eye. Shot the commander's hatch & knocked him out. Shot the driver's view slit & knocked him out too. Then the machine gun port etc etc. All the time doing damage to the tank until I nailed it.
So, continuing the KV-1S saga, the 122mm is on, it now has a rammer and GLD, vents to go on next. 40,000xp left to go to the IS. I didn't get as long on WoT as I would have liked tonight, but I still managed a cool 9000xp. So, just like everyone said, this tank can be ridiculous - when it works, it's a one-shot steamroller that crushes everything in it's path. I had two top guns in it tonight, both were matches where I traversed the map, barely stopping to aim. When it doesn't is usually because the MM makes sure it doesn't - being on the attacking team on assault on the Malinovka map, when the enemy team is mostly tier 8 heavies and TDs doesn't give me many options to participate!
Just a quick question too, I've noticed my JagdPanther II has a terrible crew - I think somewhere along the line my long term JPI crew ended up in the Tiger, and they're now my Tiger II crew. So, if I'm eventually going down the 60,000xp gun grind and the 130,000xp grind to the JagdTiger, I want a decent crew. So, can a TD crew be trained in a premium heavy? I had been thinking about getting a Löwe, so if I could train a TD crew for the JPII while raking the cash in by playing the Lion, that would be ace.
Also, out of interest, can crew of one nation be trained in a premium tank of another nation, or is that a no-no? I suppose it wouldn't be good business sense for WG to allow this, as not allowing it tempts the player into having at least one premium tank per nation they play. At the moment I've got a TOGII and a Matilda Black Prince, the TOG would be ideal for training British heavy crews, but the Matilda BP, I think, is too small and only has 4 crew members.
Just a quick question too, I've noticed my JagdPanther II has a terrible crew - I think somewhere along the line my long term JPI crew ended up in the Tiger, and they're now my Tiger II crew. So, if I'm eventually going down the 60,000xp gun grind and the 130,000xp grind to the JagdTiger, I want a decent crew. So, can a TD crew be trained in a premium heavy? I had been thinking about getting a Löwe, so if I could train a TD crew for the JPII while raking the cash in by playing the Lion, that would be ace.
Also, out of interest, can crew of one nation be trained in a premium tank of another nation, or is that a no-no? I suppose it wouldn't be good business sense for WG to allow this, as not allowing it tempts the player into having at least one premium tank per nation they play. At the moment I've got a TOGII and a Matilda Black Prince, the TOG would be ideal for training British heavy crews, but the Matilda BP, I think, is too small and only has 4 crew members.
Just upped to (one of) the tier 8 American TDs - the T28. Do not like much yet. It's slow, and the 2nd gun is the over-the-path one I unlocked on tier 7 (as I'll be using it a lot having both TD lines running together)... but it's not much cop on tier 8.
And what happened to the favourable MM for new tanks? My 3rd game, got dumped into a match with 5 tier 10s in...
On the other hand, just carried a lovely game with my Nashorn; class 1 mastery and "High calibre"
Also annoyed earlier when I got called for tea and decided to do a suicide run over the hill on Himmelsdorf/encounter where I already was brawling carefully. I made it past the enemy at the top, took out one arti on the turn down their side of the hill, a T71 with one shot + ram at the bottom of the hill, and both their other artis in amongst the buildings before dying. Then my stupid team went and lost the match anyway
At least I got a Puciccnnnnacccani's medal. I also noticed I got bonus credits (5,200 IIRC) for "courageous resistance" on the details screen!
And what happened to the favourable MM for new tanks? My 3rd game, got dumped into a match with 5 tier 10s in...
On the other hand, just carried a lovely game with my Nashorn; class 1 mastery and "High calibre"
Also annoyed earlier when I got called for tea and decided to do a suicide run over the hill on Himmelsdorf/encounter where I already was brawling carefully. I made it past the enemy at the top, took out one arti on the turn down their side of the hill, a T71 with one shot + ram at the bottom of the hill, and both their other artis in amongst the buildings before dying. Then my stupid team went and lost the match anyway
At least I got a Puciccnnnnacccani's medal. I also noticed I got bonus credits (5,200 IIRC) for "courageous resistance" on the details screen!Mastodon2 said:
So, can a TD crew be trained in a premium heavy? I had been thinking about getting a Löwe, so if I could train a TD crew for the JPII while raking the cash in by playing the Lion, that would be ace.
Also, out of interest, can crew of one nation be trained in a premium tank of another nation, or is that a no-no?
No and No I'm afraid. They have to be of the same nation and the same vehicle type.Also, out of interest, can crew of one nation be trained in a premium tank of another nation, or is that a no-no?
Its likely that if you have a kv1s when they change it, you will get the kv85 free and keep the kv1s (but it would now be a tier 5). This means you would effectively get a free tank and slot. You could then sell both tanks, pretty much getting back the price you paid for the kv1s, but you would keep the extra slot they gave you.
Oc course the kv1s in its current state is well worth playing, but its a horrid stock grind to get the 122mm that makes it all worthwhile.
I will be buying back the 1s just to get the free slot, have no intention of keeping it.
Oc course the kv1s in its current state is well worth playing, but its a horrid stock grind to get the 122mm that makes it all worthwhile.
I will be buying back the 1s just to get the free slot, have no intention of keeping it.
Beati Dogu said:
No and No I'm afraid. They have to be of the same nation and the same vehicle type.
Argh, what a stinger. I might have to buy a Dicker Max, I hear the Jagdtiger 88 is a monster credit earner but I don't know if I can go back to playing that dreadful 88 - it's not not a good gun for penetrating 9s and 10s. Hell, it even struggles with some 8s unless you can get a flank shot, and I can't see the Jagdtiger being all that hot at getting into those positions.Still, I've got a really good Germany heavy crew, so many the Jagdtiger makes more sense than the Lion, as a JT could train my JPII crew to be competitive again, and train a crew for future Waffentrager use...
I'm finding the Tortoise to be an incredibly slow grind. Still only have the basic gun, which struggles at T8, let alone T9/10. Sure it's got massive armour and HP - but of little use when everyone knows to aim at the hatch. May as well make the whole tank out of paper. Even if you are top tier, it's so slow and immobile that often games just pass you by, without the opportunity to shoot and earn some points. It's just total luck whether you are on a suitable map and whether the enemy queue up in front of your gun.
May get easier when I upgrade the gun but it's taking forever with such a low points tally every game.
May get easier when I upgrade the gun but it's taking forever with such a low points tally every game.
I'll be selling the KV-1S as well once it gets "rebalanced". It has a good crew with nearly 3 skills including brothers in arms that brings the reload time down to 12.7 seconds IIRC.
I'll try the new KV-85 though, it may be OK.
When they moved the German line about last year they provided a free Panther prototype (VK3002M) with a 100% crew and all the modules already unlocked. Hopefully they'll do the same with the KV-85.
Do you have the E-25 on Xbox? That's going to be more fun that the Dicker Max, although it is more expensive.
I'll try the new KV-85 though, it may be OK.
When they moved the German line about last year they provided a free Panther prototype (VK3002M) with a 100% crew and all the modules already unlocked. Hopefully they'll do the same with the KV-85.
Mastodon2 said:
Argh, what a stinger. I might have to buy a Dicker Max, I hear the Jagdtiger 88 is a monster credit earner but I don't know if I can go back to playing that dreadful 88 - it's not not a good gun for penetrating 9s and 10s. Hell, it even struggles with some 8s unless you can get a flank shot, and I can't see the Jagdtiger being all that hot at getting into those positions.
Still, I've got a really good Germany heavy crew, so many the Jagdtiger makes more sense than the Lion, as a JT could train my JPII crew to be competitive again, and train a crew for future Waffentrager use...
The JT88 doesn't see tier 10, it gets preferential match making. The gun is fast firing & accurate at least, so you can keep your enemy tracked and go for weak points.Still, I've got a really good Germany heavy crew, so many the Jagdtiger makes more sense than the Lion, as a JT could train my JPII crew to be competitive again, and train a crew for future Waffentrager use...
Do you have the E-25 on Xbox? That's going to be more fun that the Dicker Max, although it is more expensive.
Edited by Beati Dogu on Thursday 21st August 14:10
I've watched some videos of the E-25, and it does look amazing, but it's not out on the Xbox yet. Rumoured to be coming, but no solid date.
Once I've gone through the grind to the IS, then IS-3 with the top gun, then I'll review my German TD situation. I might end up with the Dicker Max, maybe the JT88, it will be a few weeks at least before I'm done with my current plans for the IS line.
Once I've gone through the grind to the IS, then IS-3 with the top gun, then I'll review my German TD situation. I might end up with the Dicker Max, maybe the JT88, it will be a few weeks at least before I'm done with my current plans for the IS line.
Mastodon2 said:
I've watched some videos of the E-25, and it does look amazing, but it's not out on the Xbox yet. Rumoured to be coming, but no solid date.
Once I've gone through the grind to the IS, then IS-3 with the top gun, then I'll review my German TD situation. I might end up with the Dicker Max, maybe the JT88, it will be a few weeks at least before I'm done with my current plans for the IS line.
Dicker Max is a piece of sOnce I've gone through the grind to the IS, then IS-3 with the top gun, then I'll review my German TD situation. I might end up with the Dicker Max, maybe the JT88, it will be a few weeks at least before I'm done with my current plans for the IS line.
t on PC so if you want a credit earner I'd recommend the E-25. Takes a bit of getting used to but get camo net and rammer installed ASAP and it's basically an ELC AMX on steroids with a near-auto cannon. You will need to load some prem ammo in tier 8 matches when you just can't get round the side or back of them though. E-25 earns a stupid amount of coins.E-25's are evil little sods, especially when there are 2 or more focussing the same target. As stated the low pen (~130 iirc) is the only drawback but that can be overcome with premium ammo when needed. One word of caution though, it's slightly limited for crew training purposes as it only has a 4 man crew - most of the German TD's are 5 or 6 crews so you can't train all of them at the same time. Forget which two it is missing, I think its 1 loader instead of 2 and no radio operator.
The E-25 is the evil offspring of a Stug and an ELC AMX. It even has the same L/70 needle gun as the tier 5 Stug III, but with a much faster rate of fire.
150 pen / 135 damage with standard AP at tier 5 is quite effective. On a tier 7 you'd have to shoot your target an awful lot to kill him. Premium ammo is 194 pen / 135 damage.
Another thing good about the Soviet SU-100Y premium TD is that it has 2 gunners and 2 loaders, so you can actually train parts of two crews at the same time.
150 pen / 135 damage with standard AP at tier 5 is quite effective. On a tier 7 you'd have to shoot your target an awful lot to kill him. Premium ammo is 194 pen / 135 damage.
Another thing good about the Soviet SU-100Y premium TD is that it has 2 gunners and 2 loaders, so you can actually train parts of two crews at the same time.
TEKNOPUG said:
I'm finding the Tortoise to be an incredibly slow grind. Still only have the basic gun, which struggles at T8, let alone T9/10. Sure it's got massive armour and HP - but of little use when everyone knows to aim at the hatch. May as well make the whole tank out of paper. Even if you are top tier, it's so slow and immobile that often games just pass you by, without the opportunity to shoot and earn some points. It's just total luck whether you are on a suitable map and whether the enemy queue up in front of your gun.
May get easier when I upgrade the gun but it's taking forever with such a low points tally every game.
As I said above, I'm getting fed up with the slow/heavy armoured TD grinds. Both the AT8 and T28 play just as you've said and it is a real grind to grind them. Might just ditch both lines. Same as the JT that I sold a while ago.May get easier when I upgrade the gun but it's taking forever with such a low points tally every game.
The E-25 is great fun. I used to hate them with a passion but I love mine now I have one!
As mentioned the pen isn't great at that tier but lets be honest if you are shooting suff head on you are doing it wrong in the e-25.
Had a recent game on redshire where I killed the last enemy with my last shot... a Churchill 7 that I had to rush (only have 12 HE rounds remaining at that stage). I managed to park right behind him and he didn't have the gun depression to shoot back. One of my HE rounds penned as well setting him on fire.
I remember them being the bane of my life when they came out and I was grinding the T28-proto.. get into a 1v1 duel and he can circle you taking the odd shot as well whilst you lumber about trying to get a shot at him.
There are a few tanks you can rush up to in an e25 and hug the sides/rear of without fear of being shot back. just need to watch the larger ones ramming you,
As mentioned the pen isn't great at that tier but lets be honest if you are shooting suff head on you are doing it wrong in the e-25.
Had a recent game on redshire where I killed the last enemy with my last shot... a Churchill 7 that I had to rush (only have 12 HE rounds remaining at that stage). I managed to park right behind him and he didn't have the gun depression to shoot back. One of my HE rounds penned as well setting him on fire.
I remember them being the bane of my life when they came out and I was grinding the T28-proto.. get into a 1v1 duel and he can circle you taking the odd shot as well whilst you lumber about trying to get a shot at him.
There are a few tanks you can rush up to in an e25 and hug the sides/rear of without fear of being shot back. just need to watch the larger ones ramming you,
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