World of Tanks (Vol 2)
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Those are some nice specials. Definitely wont be buying any high tier tanks until they kick in, not sure about the T-34-85M mission, but 50k xp in each nation across 20 odd days sounds doable given the x2 for every victory for a few days.
Also lots of free premium days, gold and a free gift tank, whats not to like
Also lots of free premium days, gold and a free gift tank, whats not to like
Hmph, makes our Christmas look a bit s
t. Ok, it hasn't been announced yet but you guys have one hell of an xmas bash coming up.
I've just bought myself a Super Pershing, my first tier 8. I've not bothered with American tanks before, having not fallen in love with my T1E6-X or T-14s. So I'm not setting about training a decent American crew. In my first win in the Super Pershing, I took a mastery class 1 and 130,000 silver. Not bad for a crew with no skills whatsoever. The gun is not amazing, at least it's reasonably accurate, but the pen is poor and the reload is not great, but that APCR pen, sorry Tiger II was that your upper plate?
It's also barely what you could call a medium, it's more a light heavy with a rubbish gun. The spaced armour on the front is truly troll, and the gun depression is amazing. Just need to hide that turret weakspot!
t. Ok, it hasn't been announced yet but you guys have one hell of an xmas bash coming up.I've just bought myself a Super Pershing, my first tier 8. I've not bothered with American tanks before, having not fallen in love with my T1E6-X or T-14s. So I'm not setting about training a decent American crew. In my first win in the Super Pershing, I took a mastery class 1 and 130,000 silver. Not bad for a crew with no skills whatsoever. The gun is not amazing, at least it's reasonably accurate, but the pen is poor and the reload is not great, but that APCR pen, sorry Tiger II was that your upper plate?
It's also barely what you could call a medium, it's more a light heavy with a rubbish gun. The spaced armour on the front is truly troll, and the gun depression is amazing. Just need to hide that turret weakspot!
Met a new kind of stupid tonight... Playing in the turd of all turd spg's the crusader SP and just after game starts I get teamkilled by a lowe. It turns out the tool thought I was a teamkiller because my name was blue in his XVM 
.... Of course he then turns blue properly, as he managed to put his first shot into my tracks, killed me on the second and auto flags as nobend teamkiller himself, at which point the team tear him a new one.
I mean what is it with people? Are they so incompetent they use mods they don't understand? I had to actually explain to him what he had done after the game (I was quite polite I thought, under the circumstances although the muppet never actually apologised)... Seriously needs to be some kind of IQ test / internet licence.
It was strangely in keeping with the night though, managed an 8 game losing streak in the crusader spg before rage selling the bd thing, and ended the evening on 4 wins out of 17 
. This game sometimes, its enough to drive you to drink.
.... Of course he then turns blue properly, as he managed to put his first shot into my tracks, killed me on the second and auto flags as I mean what is it with people? Are they so incompetent they use mods they don't understand? I had to actually explain to him what he had done after the game (I was quite polite I thought, under the circumstances although the muppet never actually apologised)... Seriously needs to be some kind of IQ test / internet licence.
It was strangely in keeping with the night though, managed an 8 game losing streak in the crusader spg before rage selling the b
d thing, and ended the evening on 4 wins out of 17 . This game sometimes, its enough to drive you to drink.Beati Dogu said:
I got my 12th Top Gun with the Derpencruiser (Cruiser Mk2) earlier. Man that thing loves the Ensk map. 
I've must have had more Ace Tankers with this tank than anything else.
My go to tank for comedy.I've must have had more Ace Tankers with this tank than anything else.
Problem is that people are beginning to recognize it for the seal clubbing potential.
bstb3 said:
8 game losing streak in the crusader spg before rage selling the bd thing, and ended the evening on 4 wins out of 17 . This game sometimes, its enough to drive you to drink.
I've kept mine due to lack of garage space, and have the occasional game in it, mainly for x2 matches to get the extra xp to meet a mission goal.d thing, and ended the evening on 4 wins out of 17 . This game sometimes, its enough to drive you to drink.It's a delight to play after the drudgery (and occasional one shotting of things) of the SU-14-1.
bstb3 said:
Met a new kind of stupid tonight... Playing in the turd of all turd spg's the crusader SP and just after game starts I get teamkilled by a lowe. It turns out the tool thought I was a teamkiller because my name was blue in his XVM .... Of course he then turns blue properly, as he managed to put his first shot into my tracks, killed me on the second and auto flags as nobend teamkiller himself, at which point the team tear him a new one.
I mean what is it with people? Are they so incompetent they use mods they don't understand? I had to actually explain to him what he had done after the game (I was quite polite I thought, under the circumstances although the muppet never actually apologised)... Seriously needs to be some kind of IQ test / internet licence.
It was strangely in keeping with the night though, managed an 8 game losing streak in the crusader spg before rage selling the bd thing, and ended the evening on 4 wins out of 17 . This game sometimes, its enough to drive you to drink.
The Löwe living up to it's reputation again, it seems to attract an unusually high number of morons, it's very unusual. Part of the reason I've never been scared to meet one on the battlefield, whatever tier I'm in, because they seem to be played by hopeless tankers. I think once, in about 4200 games I've seen one put in a good performance and really dominate a game. You tend not to see these sort of idiots quite so often in IS-6s, T34s etc..... Of course he then turns blue properly, as he managed to put his first shot into my tracks, killed me on the second and auto flags as I mean what is it with people? Are they so incompetent they use mods they don't understand? I had to actually explain to him what he had done after the game (I was quite polite I thought, under the circumstances although the muppet never actually apologised)... Seriously needs to be some kind of IQ test / internet licence.
It was strangely in keeping with the night though, managed an 8 game losing streak in the crusader spg before rage selling the b
d thing, and ended the evening on 4 wins out of 17 . This game sometimes, its enough to drive you to drink.Also, what makes the Crusader SPG so bad in your opinion? I'm not far off unlocking it, but I don't know if I'll bother buying it, I've heard the mobility is odd (higher speed in reverse) and the gun is poor. I haven't look on Tank Compare but it didn't look that much worse than the GwPanther gun - though the GW gets amazing mobility and a massive gun arc for it's tier.
Edited by Mastodon2 on Wednesday 26th November 01:34
Mastodon2 said:
Also, what makes the Crusader SPG so bad in your opinion? I'm not far off unlocking it, but I don't know if I'll bother buying it, I've heard the mobility is odd (higher speed in reverse) and the gun is poor. I haven't look on Tank Compare but it didn't look that much worse than the GwPanther gun - though the GW gets amazing mobility and a massive gun arc for it's tier.
Its the top gun that's the problem. Its actually fun to play until you have to shoot something, then it goes downhill. It looks ok on paper, but the reality is worse I found. The main issue is it has a very flat trajectory, unlike the FV304, which makes hills and buildings more of a problem. It also means its much less likely to hit the soft part of tanks, and that allied with the low pen for its tier means penetrating shots are rare unless paper tanks are hit.Edited by Mastodon2 on Wednesday 26th November 01:34
The splash radius is tiny too, even on the premium ammo, so damage rolls when you hit can be poor ( i hit the front of a T29 tonight and did 0 damage) and missing generally means no damage even if you land tight next to the target. This thing seems to miss much more than its .72 accuracy would suggest too - it's by far the least reliable gun accuracy wise i have played on an arty, but maybe i have just been unlucky there.
Typical damage roll seems to be in the high 200's, compared to 600 or so on the GW panther. The aim time is ok, and the reload is pretty fast for tier 7 in the mid 20's, but it in no way makes up for the trajectory, pen and splash deficiencies. It's severely in need of a buff.
I see a lot of people play it with the stock gun from the Bert, which tells its own story as it can be facing tier 9's...
Edited by bstb3 on Wednesday 26th November 02:10
JustinF said:
I glow with pride every time the PH massive shows love for my little pet tank
I know, right? I even won that game too. Normally I lose when I get a Top Gun, like a couple of days ago.
I particularly love one-shotting Panzer 1Cs as they go round eviscerating everyone with their chainsaw gun.
jimmyjimjim said:
My go to tank for comedy.
Problem is that people are beginning to recognize it for the seal clubbing potential.
Damn. I'm nowhere near that. I have a Pascucci's medal for nailing 3 scumbags, plus 1 High Calibre and an Invader medal.Problem is that people are beginning to recognize it for the seal clubbing potential.
The crew is 90% on their 1st set of skills now.
Hitting those 1c's as they race past doing a drive-by, BOOOOOOM game over fool!
As for the Crusdaer SP, it's very British with that gun, the Alpha is poor but the RoF is good and the aim circle closes fairly fast, with good positioning and spotters you can pour quite a lot of damage into targets. I've got a 54% WR in mine over 200+ games and I'm distinctly average.
As for the Crusdaer SP, it's very British with that gun, the Alpha is poor but the RoF is good and the aim circle closes fairly fast, with good positioning and spotters you can pour quite a lot of damage into targets. I've got a 54% WR in mine over 200+ games and I'm distinctly average.
I managed to get a mastery badge 2nd class the other night with the Strutter Emil of all things. Solo killed an IS who's driver really didn't have a clue.
I fired a shot into his side as he passed by the front of me, which of course meant that he saw me, turned and barrelled straight at me. He fired whilst moving (mistake on most soviet tanks) and thus missed, this allowed me to get another shot off which tracked him, I immediately punched it into reverse as he took aim, his round struck home and took 300hp off me (he should have loaded a HE round), thankfully no critical. I got another shot off taking a lump out of him. By this time he was mobile again and I consoled myself to the valiant effort and waited to die. Except instead of flanking me he came to a halt (in front of me) fired and missed, he was obviously desperate to kill me and snapped his shot (I can understand his panic that 12.8cm is lethal) but he just sat there in front of me instead of moving allowing me to take his last hit points at point blank range. I'd also chucked a few rounds into various other tanks as well (and got a number of spots - bino's).
15 Rounds isn't a huge amount but at an average of 500 damage per shot (it’s basically the top gun on the E-75 on a tier 7 TD). If it weren’t for the lack of mobility and the limited gun traverse I think it would be a nice vehicle.
I fired a shot into his side as he passed by the front of me, which of course meant that he saw me, turned and barrelled straight at me. He fired whilst moving (mistake on most soviet tanks) and thus missed, this allowed me to get another shot off which tracked him, I immediately punched it into reverse as he took aim, his round struck home and took 300hp off me (he should have loaded a HE round), thankfully no critical. I got another shot off taking a lump out of him. By this time he was mobile again and I consoled myself to the valiant effort and waited to die. Except instead of flanking me he came to a halt (in front of me) fired and missed, he was obviously desperate to kill me and snapped his shot (I can understand his panic that 12.8cm is lethal) but he just sat there in front of me instead of moving allowing me to take his last hit points at point blank range. I'd also chucked a few rounds into various other tanks as well (and got a number of spots - bino's).
15 Rounds isn't a huge amount but at an average of 500 damage per shot (it’s basically the top gun on the E-75 on a tier 7 TD). If it weren’t for the lack of mobility and the limited gun traverse I think it would be a nice vehicle.
jimmyjimjim said:
Mine are at ~367%. Makes a difference.
I'll bet. 
I started with a new 75% crew and it's taken them 169 games to get this far.
You're on the US server aren't you? I have a US account too, but haven't played it in a while. I have a Derpencruiser on there as well of course.
Interestingly they have almost identical win rate and kill/death ratio, although with only 31 games on the US server, a Top Gun / Ace Tanker eludes me so far.http://worldoftanks.com/community/accounts/1007711...
Ah the re-rolls.
bstb3 said:
Its the top gun that's the problem. Its actually fun to play until you have to shoot something, then it goes downhill. It looks ok on paper, but the reality is worse I found. The main issue is it has a very flat trajectory, unlike the FV304, which makes hills and buildings more of a problem. It also means its much less likely to hit the soft part of tanks, and that allied with the low pen for its tier means penetrating shots are rare unless paper tanks are hit.
The splash radius is tiny too, even on the premium ammo, so damage rolls when you hit can be poor ( i hit the front of a T29 tonight and did 0 damage) and missing generally means no damage even if you land tight next to the target. This thing seems to miss much more than its .72 accuracy would suggest too - it's by far the least reliable gun accuracy wise i have played on an arty, but maybe i have just been unlucky there.
Typical damage roll seems to be in the high 200's, compared to 600 or so on the GW panther. The aim time is ok, and the reload is pretty fast for tier 7 in the mid 20's, but it in no way makes up for the trajectory, pen and splash deficiencies. It's severely in need of a buff.
I see a lot of people play it with the stock gun from the Bert, which tells its own story as it can be facing tier 9's...
Well, that has put me off continuing in the Bert. I enjoy the Bert but tbh, I enjoyed the Birch gun more. I had not been that excited about playing the Crusader, and the only tank in the line I was really looking forward to was the Conqueror Gun Carriage. I think I'll probably sell the Bert off and wait for the French arty. I've got enough gold sitting around for the French tier 5 premium SPG, which will probably be released a few weeks before the French SPG line is added.The splash radius is tiny too, even on the premium ammo, so damage rolls when you hit can be poor ( i hit the front of a T29 tonight and did 0 damage) and missing generally means no damage even if you land tight next to the target. This thing seems to miss much more than its .72 accuracy would suggest too - it's by far the least reliable gun accuracy wise i have played on an arty, but maybe i have just been unlucky there.
Typical damage roll seems to be in the high 200's, compared to 600 or so on the GW panther. The aim time is ok, and the reload is pretty fast for tier 7 in the mid 20's, but it in no way makes up for the trajectory, pen and splash deficiencies. It's severely in need of a buff.
I see a lot of people play it with the stock gun from the Bert, which tells its own story as it can be facing tier 9's...
Edited by bstb3 on Wednesday 26th November 02:10
I'm continuing with my main focus grind at the moment, the Maus line. I'm a few matches away from turning my VK30.01 into a Tiger P. It hasn't been a smooth ride, but with the top gun, the VK can devastate. If only it's armour wasn't so poor, or it wasn't so damn big. I had a 7 kill round last night that would have been a Radley-Walters but I bounced off a Matilda at the end of the match and someone else got the kill, then I lost a match, then played another and got another Top Gun. It feels like I've started to click with it more, but tbh I just want to get onto the Tiger P.
We've also got another Fury-style paintjob special which has been knocking around for months, The Ripper, coming to the Xbox. Basically a M4A2E4 Sherman with a Korean war style paintjob with what is supposed to be a tiger face painted on the front, which the US psychological warfare division encouraged crews to paint on their tanks to scare the locals. It looks pretty cool, but it's step and tbh if I was going to be a painted-up version of a tank, I'd sooner get the Fury. The M4A2E4 Sherman has never been on sale on the Xbox though, so I suppose it's a chance to own something a bit different, but given that the price for tier 5 premiums is usually 1500-1800 gold, 6500 seems a bit steep even if it does come with a month of premium time, a garage slot and some ammo. I'll pass!
Mastodon2 said:
Well, that has put me off continuing in the Bert. I enjoy the Bert but tbh, I enjoyed the Birch gun more. I had not been that excited about playing the Crusader, and the only tank in the line I was really looking forward to was the Conqueror Gun Carriage. I think I'll probably sell the Bert off and wait for the French arty. I've got enough gold sitting around for the French tier 5 premium SPG, which will probably be released a few weeks before the French SPG line is added.
Well I wouldn't let me put you off too much, and if you still want the Conquerer GC then it's the only way to get it. I sold mine last night more in frustration and wanting the garage slot for something less stressful really, I'll probably get it back if / when it gets looked at.CGC is an interesting one, but tbh I want to do French SPGs and possibly even get the GWTiger and M53/55 first, so that is months and months of work!
Another 7 kill round for my first win of the day in the VK30.01P, and enough XP from that to upgrade to the Tiger P. That Tiger P is a seriously good looking tank, and can have troll armour at times. I had a tier 7 match and against a T29 with the 90mm gun, he just didn't know where to shoot, nothing was going through the front of that armour. Just need to get a decent gun on it, as 130 alpha at tier 7 doesn't really cut it
Another 7 kill round for my first win of the day in the VK30.01P, and enough XP from that to upgrade to the Tiger P. That Tiger P is a seriously good looking tank, and can have troll armour at times. I had a tier 7 match and against a T29 with the 90mm gun, he just didn't know where to shoot, nothing was going through the front of that armour. Just need to get a decent gun on it, as 130 alpha at tier 7 doesn't really cut it
Beati Dogu said:
I started with a new 75% crew and it's taken them 169 games to get this far.
You're on the US server aren't you? I have a US account too, but haven't played it in a while.
Yep, USW for the most part, as USE gets bad lag issues. My C2 crew are out of the Centurion 1, they've been with me a while You're on the US server aren't you? I have a US account too, but haven't played it in a while.
Mastodon2 said:
CGC is an interesting one, but tbh I want to do French SPGs and possibly even get the GWTiger and M53/55 first, so that is months and months of work!
Another 7 kill round for my first win of the day in the VK30.01P, and enough XP from that to upgrade to the Tiger P. That Tiger P is a seriously good looking tank, and can have troll armour at times. I had a tier 7 match and against a T29 with the 90mm gun, he just didn't know where to shoot, nothing was going through the front of that armour. Just need to get a decent gun on it, as 130 alpha at tier 7 doesn't really cut it
Top Cupola. Don't facehug a T29, you can't depress enough to hit anything vulnerable on him, and he'll just smash your cupola until you die.Another 7 kill round for my first win of the day in the VK30.01P, and enough XP from that to upgrade to the Tiger P. That Tiger P is a seriously good looking tank, and can have troll armour at times. I had a tier 7 match and against a T29 with the 90mm gun, he just didn't know where to shoot, nothing was going through the front of that armour. Just need to get a decent gun on it, as 130 alpha at tier 7 doesn't really cut it
Also, your frontal armor is just the narrow band; he can pen you in most places frontally, you can't rely on it at all.
jimmyjimjim said:
Top Cupola. Don't facehug a T29, you can't depress enough to hit anything vulnerable on him, and he'll just smash your cupola until you die.
Also, your frontal armor is just the narrow band; he can pen you in most places frontally, you can't rely on it at all.
Yes, I know my cupola is the weak spot, he didn't know that though. Also, this is the Tiger P we're talking about, a lot more armour on the front than the regular Tiger. A bit of an oddity is that cupola, as the Tiger P has a huge armour increase over the regular Tiger, and the VK30.01P that precedes it, yet the VK30.01P turrent, when it transfers over to the Tiger P gets a much taller cupola. A case of WG making sure it's a tough tank to pen from the front, but giving experienced players something obvious to shoot at.Also, your frontal armor is just the narrow band; he can pen you in most places frontally, you can't rely on it at all.
A bit of angle on that and it will happily bounce a lot of tier 7 and even 8 guns.
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