World of Tanks (Vol 2)
Discussion
It has the feel of a just play as normal and see how close you get mission to it. The SP one was a real chore in the end, for a tank that's not got much play time since - I can see this one being the same although a Chinese HT trainer would be handy.
The paying to skip nations is a clever touch - but a decent option to offer. Most people wouldn't get close with Japanese, French or Chinese tanks I would think so having the option to skip them for a (hopefully) small amount is reasonable.
Pity about the tier 6 and up though, but then 150k damage is a toughie at lower tiers. I suppose they are trying to push tier 10 on people still.
At least it is just damage and kills though - not wins.
The paying to skip nations is a clever touch - but a decent option to offer. Most people wouldn't get close with Japanese, French or Chinese tanks I would think so having the option to skip them for a (hopefully) small amount is reasonable.
Pity about the tier 6 and up though, but then 150k damage is a toughie at lower tiers. I suppose they are trying to push tier 10 on people still.
At least it is just damage and kills though - not wins.
Edited by bstb3 on Friday 12th December 15:38
I just played match, assault attacking on Siegfried, spawn in S/W corner, set up to bombard the town and north spawn as best I can. The opfor push hard into the southern pond area, with two Black Princes going hull down in the undulations, and a Löwe pressing out through the open, supported by a T25-2 at the rear. The BP's and T25-2 looked like they knew what they were doing, but I whittled them down with my Crusader's 5.5 fire, the Löwe on the other hand just looked lost unable to kill 2 pinned tier 6s, while I rained shell after shell on him, eventually killing him.
Amazed by his oblivious gameplay style, I looked at this stats, scrublord of peace. 1943 battles, 43% win rate, 0.36 KDR and 0.28 damage caused / received. I was thinking "AFKer", as we don't have bots on the 360 and bots could get beter stats anyway, then I looked at his premiums and he has over £110 worth of premium tanks, so he's no lightweight spender.
I almost felt bad for him, if he had been on my team I'd have tried to give him advice over the mic, but can you really help a 43%er?
Amazed by his oblivious gameplay style, I looked at this stats, scrublord of peace. 1943 battles, 43% win rate, 0.36 KDR and 0.28 damage caused / received. I was thinking "AFKer", as we don't have bots on the 360 and bots could get beter stats anyway, then I looked at his premiums and he has over £110 worth of premium tanks, so he's no lightweight spender.
I almost felt bad for him, if he had been on my team I'd have tried to give him advice over the mic, but can you really help a 43%er?
Mastodon2 said:
Amazed by his oblivious gameplay style, I looked at this stats, scrublord of peace. 1943 battles, 43% win rate, 0.36 KDR and 0.28 damage caused / received. I was thinking "AFKer", as we don't have bots on the 360 and bots could get beter stats anyway, then I looked at his premiums and he has over £110 worth of premium tanks, so he's no lightweight spender.
I almost felt bad for him, if he had been on my team I'd have tried to give him advice over the mic, but can you really help a 43%er?
It's 'only' 1943 games though, plenty of time for them to figure it out & it depends if they want to be helped really. He might just be having fun anyway, in which case good luck to him - there's plenty of resource out there for people who want to get better. That's not to say that you shouldn't offer advice in the battle - but don't be surprised if it's ignored, or taken badly...I almost felt bad for him, if he had been on my team I'd have tried to give him advice over the mic, but can you really help a 43%er?
It is a team game though, so it's unfortunate that it's possible to hop straight into tier 8's when you can't really be expected to play them to their full effectiveness, but then I've seen plenty of 10k+ game players with no better clue of what to do.
Yes, I'd cut them some slack. If they'd had 10K games and a 43% percent win rate, then yes, this game isn't for them.
Noobing around in the low tiers as I occasionally do (hey I'm starting new crews, give me a break
), people who re-roll are pretty obvious.
A lot of new players fall into the trap of borrowing mummy's credit card and buying tier 8 premium tanks. The Lowe in particular suffers a lot from this. Probably because it looks mean and tough.
Noobing around in the low tiers as I occasionally do (hey I'm starting new crews, give me a break
), people who re-roll are pretty obvious.A lot of new players fall into the trap of borrowing mummy's credit card and buying tier 8 premium tanks. The Lowe in particular suffers a lot from this. Probably because it looks mean and tough.
Must admit I have noticed a lot of people re rolling of late. Never quite understood that - it's not like it makes you a better player than you already were, just to have a different colour in XVM or something (congratulations, now you are a bigger target than you were before...). I guess it's just about seeing how high you can get your stats, but anyone looking at them for any meaningful reason would spot the padding, and probably just be looking at recent results anyway in which case the 'noobification factor' in your early game main account stats is irrelevant anyway. People are just weird 
They were giving away invite codes recently with free gold and a low tier premium tank. I guess that was an incentive for some. I can't really see the point if it's just for stats though. Now all the arty with XVM will pick on you.
Not really a re-roll, but on my (post Super Pershing burn out) US account I have a near 61% win rate after 500 games. Not only do you know how to play, but you know what equipment helps, the best gun to pick etc. Plus these days with premium ammo available for credits it's feasible to use it even on a tier 1 now and then. Clearly those stats will drop if I kept going, but it shows what starting from scratch can give you.
Not really a re-roll, but on my (post Super Pershing burn out) US account I have a near 61% win rate after 500 games. Not only do you know how to play, but you know what equipment helps, the best gun to pick etc. Plus these days with premium ammo available for credits it's feasible to use it even on a tier 1 now and then. Clearly those stats will drop if I kept going, but it shows what starting from scratch can give you.
I remember Battlefield 3 having a very comprehensive website that tracked your stats, and that had a stat-reset button to wipe your accumulated stats and start fresh.
Also, I agree on the Löwe having a bad reputation, it's definitely the worst played of the tier 8 premiums I see on a regular basis, which is a shame because it can be a beast when played right. I think people see it and immediately think "Biggest, meanest looking tank I can get, must be amazing" and haven't got a clue how the game mechanics work.
Also, I agree on the Löwe having a bad reputation, it's definitely the worst played of the tier 8 premiums I see on a regular basis, which is a shame because it can be a beast when played right. I think people see it and immediately think "Biggest, meanest looking tank I can get, must be amazing" and haven't got a clue how the game mechanics work.
Beati Dogu said:
Wargaming have announced the end of year specials:
http://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/pc-browser/44/end-y...
They don't start until the 15 December, so don't buy any camouflage, equipment or consumables until then.
As well as the usual stuff, there's a chance to get a WZ-111 Chinese tier 8 Premium heavy tank, a garage slot and a 50% crew. This is normally only available on the Chinese server and will be similar to the existing 112 premium tank (or the IS-6 for that matter). Like them it gets effectively the same 122mm gun that the KV-1S used to have and won't see tier 10s.
To get one you need to inflict 150,000 damage and kill 150 tanks.
With each of the 7 nations
In tier 6 and above.
....hmmmm.....yeah.
This mission starts on 15 December and runs until 19 January 2015.
They are going to have a system whereby you can skip all or part of the mission for cash. So if you don't fancy doing, say the Japanese, or don't have any suitable tanks, you can pay probably $10 per nation instead. Then grind the rest.
No-one's going to bother grinding all that crap for the 111. I think you're underestimating what's involved to get it and the huge amount of time needed. For one tank. And a fairly poor one at that, at least when compared with the IS6. WG have of course done it deliberately so that people go "fhttp://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/pc-browser/44/end-y...
They don't start until the 15 December, so don't buy any camouflage, equipment or consumables until then.
As well as the usual stuff, there's a chance to get a WZ-111 Chinese tier 8 Premium heavy tank, a garage slot and a 50% crew. This is normally only available on the Chinese server and will be similar to the existing 112 premium tank (or the IS-6 for that matter). Like them it gets effectively the same 122mm gun that the KV-1S used to have and won't see tier 10s.
To get one you need to inflict 150,000 damage and kill 150 tanks.
With each of the 7 nations
In tier 6 and above.
....hmmmm.....yeah.
This mission starts on 15 December and runs until 19 January 2015.
They are going to have a system whereby you can skip all or part of the mission for cash. So if you don't fancy doing, say the Japanese, or don't have any suitable tanks, you can pay probably $10 per nation instead. Then grind the rest.
k that st!" and just send them a load of money to get it, which has been confirmed today on the FTR blog. As usual the suckers with money to burn will be all over it.
I've been grinding the Crusader 5.5 big time today, putting about 55,000xp on it since this morning. With another 18,000 to go, I expect to be in the FV207 by tomorrow lunch time. The Crusader has turned out to be a bit of a hidden gem, given that so many people on the Xbox forum gave up on Conqueror Gun Carriages as they were unable to face playing the Crusader SP. The distinct lack of penetrating power, with the 20 second reload means this is another British chipper, rather than a German, Russian or American sledgehammer, but the wide gun traverse and reasonable aim time means it can snap from target to target quickly, and does it's best work to use to suppress a tank or group of tanks and let the friendless press the advantage. It's a tracking monster too, because of the low shell arc practically any hit on an enemy tank will splash the tracks and damage or break them completely.
The biggest negative has been the extremely low shell arc, which makes it very difficult to hit targets in cover, and makes engine deck hits a dream rather than a reality. However, after 101 games, a 61% win rate, about 90% of those solo, 144 kills and an ace tanker, I feel like I've got the measure of this thing, and it definitely shows that arty can definitely influence a match, and in a way carry it if the spotters can stay alive long enough. Forget clutching though, like any other arty, even the Bert tbh, once the chips are down this thing is generally dead weight.
The biggest negative has been the extremely low shell arc, which makes it very difficult to hit targets in cover, and makes engine deck hits a dream rather than a reality. However, after 101 games, a 61% win rate, about 90% of those solo, 144 kills and an ace tanker, I feel like I've got the measure of this thing, and it definitely shows that arty can definitely influence a match, and in a way carry it if the spotters can stay alive long enough. Forget clutching though, like any other arty, even the Bert tbh, once the chips are down this thing is generally dead weight.
No, the guns are ok. I did wonder if perhaps life would have been easier if I'd gone up another Brit line first, but nothing really excites me on the other Brit trees. I'm only on the arty line for the CGC. The Brit arty line is a quirky one, especially the Birch Gun, Bishop and Bert section, perhaps even the Crusader SP with it's comically low firing arc.
I was going to go up the Leopard 1 line, as I've always wanted to try that, but I decided earlier that I should put my American crew to use as they close in on 400% training, and I've no Yank tanks that aren't premiums. I have decided provisionally to have a shot at the US medium line, going up to the Pattons. Any thoughts? I don't see that many high tier US mediums, the received opinion on the Xbox forums is that E50M is god, and the T62A has an auto-bounce turret made of adamantium and everyone wants though, no one is playing the poor old Patton line. I do like to run tanks you don't see often on the field!
Also, a crucial question for when the time comes, should I go through the Easy 8, or the Sherman Jumbo when the time comes? I will consult the xbox forum in case the stock grinds are different, but I was thinking Easy 8 for mobility and guns, Sherman Jumbo for that ridiculous upper front plate. Which is better? Which is less painful?
I was going to go up the Leopard 1 line, as I've always wanted to try that, but I decided earlier that I should put my American crew to use as they close in on 400% training, and I've no Yank tanks that aren't premiums. I have decided provisionally to have a shot at the US medium line, going up to the Pattons. Any thoughts? I don't see that many high tier US mediums, the received opinion on the Xbox forums is that E50M is god, and the T62A has an auto-bounce turret made of adamantium and everyone wants though, no one is playing the poor old Patton line. I do like to run tanks you don't see often on the field!
Also, a crucial question for when the time comes, should I go through the Easy 8, or the Sherman Jumbo when the time comes? I will consult the xbox forum in case the stock grinds are different, but I was thinking Easy 8 for mobility and guns, Sherman Jumbo for that ridiculous upper front plate. Which is better? Which is less painful?
Sheets Tabuer said:
any mention of discounts on tier 10s?
Actually they're having a "March of Nations" special between 15th Dec and 19th Jan. Tier 8-10s will be 15% off during that entire period.For tiers 2-7 the discount will be applied to each nation in turn (5 days each). They haven't published the schedule for the EU yet, but the Russian, Korean & US servers have it in this order:
British, Soviet, German, American, French, Chinese, Japanese.
Probably:
30% off tier 6-7
50% off tier 2-5
Tier 1s are free anyway.
Mastodon2 said:
No, the guns are ok. I did wonder if perhaps life would have been easier if I'd gone up another Brit line first, but nothing really excites me on the other Brit trees. I'm only on the arty line for the CGC. The Brit arty line is a quirky one, especially the Birch Gun, Bishop and Bert section, perhaps even the Crusader SP with it's comically low firing arc.
I was going to go up the Leopard 1 line, as I've always wanted to try that, but I decided earlier that I should put my American crew to use as they close in on 400% training, and I've no Yank tanks that aren't premiums. I have decided provisionally to have a shot at the US medium line, going up to the Pattons. Any thoughts? I don't see that many high tier US mediums, the received opinion on the Xbox forums is that E50M is god, and the T62A has an auto-bounce turret made of adamantium and everyone wants though, no one is playing the poor old Patton line. I do like to run tanks you don't see often on the field!
Also, a crucial question for when the time comes, should I go through the Easy 8, or the Sherman Jumbo when the time comes? I will consult the xbox forum in case the stock grinds are different, but I was thinking Easy 8 for mobility and guns, Sherman Jumbo for that ridiculous upper front plate. Which is better? Which is less painful?
I've played the British medium and heavy line to tier 9 and the TDs to tier 5. A lot of the engines and guns are shared, so it makes sense to do the heavies & mediums at the same time really.I was going to go up the Leopard 1 line, as I've always wanted to try that, but I decided earlier that I should put my American crew to use as they close in on 400% training, and I've no Yank tanks that aren't premiums. I have decided provisionally to have a shot at the US medium line, going up to the Pattons. Any thoughts? I don't see that many high tier US mediums, the received opinion on the Xbox forums is that E50M is god, and the T62A has an auto-bounce turret made of adamantium and everyone wants though, no one is playing the poor old Patton line. I do like to run tanks you don't see often on the field!
Also, a crucial question for when the time comes, should I go through the Easy 8, or the Sherman Jumbo when the time comes? I will consult the xbox forum in case the stock grinds are different, but I was thinking Easy 8 for mobility and guns, Sherman Jumbo for that ridiculous upper front plate. Which is better? Which is less painful?
I've played the US mediums up to the tier 9 M46 Patton, but haven't bought the tier 10. They're good tanks I think overall. Nice gun depression and pretty agile. I preferred the M46 Patton to the E50 which I was also playing at the time. The E50 is quick once it gets going, but it's more like a heavy tank really. The E50M had much more engine power and greater mobility. Same gun though.
The M48 Patton used to be good, but they overnerfed it and there are better tanks out there now. It's a decent all round tank, but it doesn't excel at anything apart from view range. At least that's the common opinion on it. On the PC you have to unlock the top gun on it as well, which at 45K XP, is a bit much.
I played via the Sherman Jumbo (E2). I've never played the E8, so can't compare them.
I have the T54E1 US tier 9 autoloader medium now though, which is very good as well. I think you have this on Xbox now too.
Edited by Beati Dogu on Saturday 13th December 21:01
Yeah, we have the autoloader line now. The T-57 is another one of those tanks that feels ludicrously powerful at times, and at others pathetically helpless, I tend to see them getting caught out a lot more than waffles, and that turret ring thing they have is a great target, I used to revel in whacking shots through it in my Tiger II. The tier 9 medium looks good though, I watched a guy carry us to a win after 7 kills in one the other night, very impressive.
Also impressive, I have put 72,000xp on my Crusader 5.5 today, and it's done, the FV207 is in the garage. Final stats for the 5.5 - 118 matches, 62% winrate, Ace Tanker attained, 173 kills. What a machine!
Also when playing the FV207, everyone turns and looks at you as you drive to your position, a surefire indicator of a rare sight on the field.
Also impressive, I have put 72,000xp on my Crusader 5.5 today, and it's done, the FV207 is in the garage. Final stats for the 5.5 - 118 matches, 62% winrate, Ace Tanker attained, 173 kills. What a machine!
Also when playing the FV207, everyone turns and looks at you as you drive to your position, a surefire indicator of a rare sight on the field.
Edited by Mastodon2 on Saturday 13th December 23:16
Maybe I'll give them a try. I want to play some of the forthcoming mediums and TDs first though.
Talking of TDs, I like the SU-85B, but by god I get some utterly useless teams with it. If I want to win, I have to play out of my skin to do so. This was my 3rd attempt tonight, and I really didn't want to lose this one too:
That's a Delanglade's Medal for killing 4 tanks who were capping, Top Gun, Defender, High Calibre.
No Radley Walter's at tier 4 sadly.
I was the last one alive on our team and had to go into the cap after the B1 heavy tank to win it.
I'm knackered now.
Check it aaaht..
http://wotreplays.com/site/1424261#self
Talking of TDs, I like the SU-85B, but by god I get some utterly useless teams with it. If I want to win, I have to play out of my skin to do so. This was my 3rd attempt tonight, and I really didn't want to lose this one too:
That's a Delanglade's Medal for killing 4 tanks who were capping, Top Gun, Defender, High Calibre.
No Radley Walter's at tier 4 sadly.
I was the last one alive on our team and had to go into the cap after the B1 heavy tank to win it.
I'm knackered now.
Check it aaaht..
http://wotreplays.com/site/1424261#self
Edited by Beati Dogu on Sunday 14th December 00:44
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