World of Tanks (Vol 2)

[bstb3]

You aren't missing much not getting the Chi Nu Kai I would think. The non premium tier 5, the Chi Nu, is ok but nothing special so the premium version won't be any better. It would be handy as a crew trainer maybe as the whole Japanese line, apart from a few low tiers, is mediums. To be honest the only reason I have been investing some time in levelling up the Japanese line is to have tanks for the nation specific missions, rather than having any desirable end tank in mind.

I've been grinding through the ARL V39 and VK3001P recently. The ARL isn't quite as bad as I expected, but still poor. It just has several weaknesses and no offsetting strengths - so easy to get into a situation it can't cope with (hills, having to turn, shooting moving targets). At least it's not a huge xp grind to get through it and in a quirky way it's actually not unpleasant to play, just doesn't perform especially well. At least the WN8 expected damage is so low that if you have a 1.3k+ damage game you are rated as a Unicum

The VK though. Oh boy. If I didn't know it was German I'd swear it would be Belgian - so incredibly underwhelming. A real 50% at everything, which means you can't ever get in a situation where it has strengths vs an even tier opponent (apart from maybe an Arl). Mediocre speed unless downhill, poor selection of guns, pointless armour that adds weight for little realistic benefit vs the guns it faces & a good turret with not a lot of depression so you cant really use it. It's not bad per se, just never going to be thrilling either. Struggling to think of any tier 6 medium I would rather play less, think it's going to be a doubles only tank.

[Beati Dogu]

I've had the Chi Nu Kai since before the Japanese tank line came out. It's OK actually. Same gun as the regular tier 5, but a less powerful engine. Not that it really matters that much.

I'm on to the tier 8 STA-1, which I'm starting to like. The stock gun is terrible, but the second one is fine - better that the Pershing's top gun actually. I used free XP for the second gun and later on for the top engine; I felt it was a bit sluggish without it. I'll unlock the top turret, radio and gun normally.

[Alan O'Hagan]

Beati Dogu said:

I've had the Chi Nu Kai since before the Japanese tank line came out. It's OK actually. Same gun as the regular tier 5, but a less powerful engine. Not that it really matters that much.

I'm on to the tier 8 STA-1, which I'm starting to like. The stock gun is terrible, but the second one is fine - better that the Pershing's top gun actually. I used free XP for the second gun and later on for the top engine; I felt it was a bit sluggish without it. I'll unlock the top turret, radio and gun normally.

I have found the Japanese tanks to be underwhelming so far. I am currently on the Chi-Ri. I wouldn't say they have been terrible thus far, but just uninspiring. There are better tanks in their class at each tier and these Japanese have been unremarkable.

I do hear that the tier 10 STB-1 is an excellent tank so I think the grind is worth perservering with.

The Chi Nu Kai is a decent enough tier 5 premium tank to support the grind but again it doesn't stand out in any way. There are worse tier 5 premium tanks out there without doubt though.

[Beati Dogu]

The Chi-Ri has its moments. It wasn't horrible to play and it can wreck a Tiger 1. I'm glad I'm out of the cardboard box inspired tanks up to tier 7 though.


BTW the Leopard 1 will be Top Of The Tree in a few days, so if anyone is after a tank on that line, it'll be a good time to buy it.

I could get the Leopard Prototype, but the grind looks horrendous on it, even by tier 9 standards. I might re-buy the Indien Panzer as it has been buffed since I played it and I though it was a good tank anyway.

[bstb3]

Beati Dogu said:

The Chi-Ri has its moments. It wasn't horrible to play and it can wreck a Tiger 1. I'm glad I'm out of the cardboard box inspired tanks up to tier 7 though.


BTW the Leopard 1 will be Top Of The Tree in a few days, so if anyone is after a tank on that line, it'll be a good time to buy it.

I could get the Leopard Prototype, but the grind looks horrendous on it, even by tier 9 standards. I might re-buy the Indien Panzer as it has been buffed since I played it and I though it was a good tank anyway.

Indien is worth rebuying for sure, much better since it's buff to aim time and reload. It's arguably the better tier 8 medium now imo.

I've recently started playing the leopard PTA, and it's a combination of fun to drive, frustrating to try and fight in. I free xp'd the top gun, but otherwise playing it stock and it's tough to play but rewarding when it comes off. Overall worth it on the top of the tree bonuses. Wouldn't be surprised if it got a little buff in the future, some of the gun handling stats are a bit harsh and the 9.6 accuracy nerf could hurt it hard (long aim time for .36 accuracy which might still miss at range...).

[jimmyjimjim]

Had a couple of good games with the Cruiser II derp platform recently.

I've only actually played 2 games in it recently, so it still excels at the comedy:game ratio

One win:



And one loss:



Where I did more damage than the bottom 13.5 members of the team :


Sometimes it just won't let you win. Still, I did manage to kill an M2 that I needed for master tanker (and was the main reason I was playing the CII) - only one T7 and 'many' T10's left.

[Beati Dogu]

Cruiser II OP.

Mastodon2 said:

New map on the 360 next week, "Pacific Island", modeled after an island that saw combat in the Pacific theatre, scaled down to 1/8 size and modified to make it decent to play on. Whether it will be good or another st "World of Tank Destroyers" map remains to be seen.

It's based on Corregidor apparently, which is in the entrance to Manila Bay in the Philippines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corregidor

[Beati Dogu]

So is anyone else playing the 8 bit Winter Mode tanks?

I think I prefer it to the regular game. You still get retards trying to cap despite there being no reward for winning, but that's retards for you.

I just concentrate on doing the required damage and then some healing with the Arctic Fox. I find I get the damage pretty much every time with the heavy and TD. The Arctic Fox light tank is definitely the hardest to play, but the most rewarding due to the extra bonus you get from healing your team mates.

[Fane]

SPG8 mission requires 1000hp damage to Heavy Tanks...



Here's me getting 999 tonight

[Beati Dogu]

Man, that is super unlucky. Are you doing all the arty missions with the Lefurhurur, or do you have others?

I've only got the lefurhurur, but I'm not sure I could ever do 2K damage with it.

[Fane]

I'm taking the advice from the previous page of the thread and am re-buying the GW Panther when I need to. IeFhythingy is doing ok atm. I initally thought that the mission was borked, and then got my sons calculator out. I'm not miffed. Much.

EDIT - IeFH has got me this far, and is obviously capable of going to SPG11. Not sure on that one - may need something with more splashy damage. Skypigs ftw!

Edited by Fane on Saturday 31st January 01:07

[Mastodon2]

Can this mission be done in any arty? 2000 damage against heavies doesn't seem too steep a mountain to climb. It sounds like a decent game in any tier 5 arty, and a run of the mill game in a tier 8 plus. A fail platooned S-51 could do it with a single, extremely lucky shot.

[jimmyjimjim]

Did that one in the SU-14-2. Easiest way of doing it is higher tier arty. As above, you can almost do it with one shot.

[Beati Dogu]

Mastodon2 said:

Can this mission be done in any arty? 2000 damage against heavies doesn't seem too steep a mountain to climb. It sounds like a decent game in any tier 5 arty, and a run of the mill game in a tier 8 plus. A fail platooned S-51 could do it with a single, extremely lucky shot.

The missions can nominally be done in any tier 4 and above vehicle, but for some of them you definitely need the armour and/or guns that only the top few tiers have.

The Lefurhurur is tier 5 and is fairly accurate with a good reload (which is why it's no longer available). With luck it can one shot squishy things like Hellcats or T67s, but it tends to be more an annoyance than a threat to heavy tanks.

I might buy the GoodWill Panther back as well. It's been bumped up a step to tier 7 since I played it last, but it's a decent TD with a handy mini-turret. Apparently the turret was designed to be dismounted from the rest of the vehicle so they could emplace it if they wanted to. Not that they every built any.

Average 88 pen / 1200 alpha for regular ammo on the GW Panther.

Average 53 pen / 410 alpha for regular ammo on the Lefurhurur.

[Mastodon2]

The GwPanther is definitely best arty at tier 7, it has a great gun, a really wide arc and it's very quick. I think it may have the second best camo rating too, after the Crusader SP. The Russians have much, much higher damage offset by terrible aim time and accuracy, whereas the GwPanther has great accuracy and the second best aim time for the tier. I suppose it's a gift to German SPG players, as the GwTiger P and GwTiger are allegedly deeply underwhelming and the tier 10 SPG is poor too.

Update:

I have been accepted as supertester! Woo hoo! I don't know if the PC has as supertest program, I know they do public test servers prior to updates, which the Xbox doesn't. I need to download a special WOT client for the Xbox which allows access to the test server, and I'll be taking part in playtesting of new maps and tanks, reporting bugs etc. I'm told there is some sort of non-disclosure thing related to it, but I doubt I'll be getting a document in the post, much more likely is that ST's who leak info get their WOT account locked forevermore.

Edited by Mastodon2 on Saturday 31st January 18:05

[Beati Dogu]

That sounds interesting. You'll probably get reward tanks and stuff to play with on the live server. I think the WoT Xbox team is in the USA, so at least there won't be a language issue.


I could have got the tier 8 or 9 German arty, but I've just bought the GW Panther back instead.

I'll start it with a 75% crew, so we'll see how that goes.

[JustinF]

GW-P isn't the best SPG in PC version, Crusader 5.5 is and personal experience reflects this too, despite it's poor Alpha and Pen on HE shells, the quick aim time and reload paired with superior accuracy has it winning 2% more matches according to noobmeter as things stand.
I like the GW-P and had mastery in it on my second game with the inferior gun but it's long reload and appalling accuracy really lets it down sometimes.

[Mastodon2]

JustinF said:

GW-P isn't the best SPG in PC version, Crusader 5.5 is and personal experience reflects this too, despite it's poor Alpha and Pen on HE shells, the quick aim time and reload paired with superior accuracy has it winning 2% more matches according to noobmeter as things stand.
I like the GW-P and had mastery in it on my second game with the inferior gun but it's long reload and appalling accuracy really lets it down sometimes.

Interesting, I wouldn't have called that, but then I have about 63% WR in 118 games in my 5.5, which is about 9-10% higher than my average wins in all my other SPGs, so it must be doing something right - as you say, it's all in the accuracy and the aim time, the reload is decent too. It feels like it's doing nothing when it rarely ever pens, but those surface hits add up, especially when it rarely misses a shot in the hands of a good player.

I'm starting to see more and more BC 155 58s now too, as the dedicated grinders start to acquire them, after the XP converters bought them and played a few games before realising they're a seriously specialised tool. Definitely not for the casual arty player!

[Beati Dogu]

I've never played the British or regular French arty before, or US and Russian above tier 4, so the GW Panther is really the best compromise I can buy right now. Even with a 75% crew, the reload, aim & accuracy are acceptable and the gun is nasty enough. I'd played 168 games with it before, so it's a known quantity too. Plus it's arty, it's not exactly hard to play.

It'll do the job fine for the missions. I've had a couple of 1,800+ damage games already. Even shotgunned a couple of tanks in one game that were coming my way - a SuperPershing and AT-15.

[Mastodon2]

I was doomed in my FV207 on Live Oaks earlier, so I loaded an AP round and waited for the inevitable. Before I got mugged, I managed to catch a VK36.01h in tactical view at 100m out, nailed him in the side he had already taken a little bit of damage, I nailed him in the side with the AP round, 750 alpha and 258mm of pen, where is the "OVERKILL" soundbite when you need it?

I just watched Jingles World of Warships video earlier, now that looks like a lot of fun. A shame that it probably be niche compared to WOT - it certainly looks a lot slower and that will put the the ADHD players off, and comparatively smaller player base will mean it will be unlikely to brought to the Xbox one, and I can't see myself getting a gaming PC just for World of Warships. It reminded me a lot of Battlestations: Midway and Battlestations: Pacific, which I thought were both fantastic games.