World of Tanks (Vol 2)
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As a tier 7 light, it's a bit slow...what do you mean it's meant to be a tier 8 medium?!?!?!?
171 games so far. 46% win rate - up from a low of 40% induced by relentlessly being bottom tier.
It must have been ok pre-nerf (potentially excellent - you get little flashes of how it could have shined) but it's bloody awful now. It's the worst tank I've played in a long time.
171 games so far. 46% win rate - up from a low of 40% induced by relentlessly being bottom tier.
It must have been ok pre-nerf (potentially excellent - you get little flashes of how it could have shined) but it's bloody awful now. It's the worst tank I've played in a long time.
Yuegh...weekends. 
Talking of Panthers, I managed to get Ace Tanker at long last. This is the second time I've had this tank.
I only did 2K damage, which is all right for tier 7, but over 2.5K spotting and 3 kills.
http://wotreplays.com/site/2059530#stats
I'd had quite an aggressive game prior to this with about 3.5K damage, but the team was too useless to win. It was a 1st class mastery though. So the next game I tried it again and it's actually quite a good tank for that sort of aggressive play. It has the most hit points (1300) of all the tier 7 mediums, so it can weather 2-3 tier 8 hits. The long 'scaffolding pole' gun has poor alpha, but high pen & a good reload, so you generally do some damage to whatever you hit. In fact the reload is so good you can keep people perma-tracked, which is what I did to another Panther in the previous game.
Talking of Panthers, I managed to get Ace Tanker at long last. This is the second time I've had this tank.
I only did 2K damage, which is all right for tier 7, but over 2.5K spotting and 3 kills.
http://wotreplays.com/site/2059530#stats
I'd had quite an aggressive game prior to this with about 3.5K damage, but the team was too useless to win. It was a 1st class mastery though. So the next game I tried it again and it's actually quite a good tank for that sort of aggressive play. It has the most hit points (1300) of all the tier 7 mediums, so it can weather 2-3 tier 8 hits. The long 'scaffolding pole' gun has poor alpha, but high pen & a good reload, so you generally do some damage to whatever you hit. In fact the reload is so good you can keep people perma-tracked, which is what I did to another Panther in the previous game.
jimmyjimjim said:
As a tier 7 light, it's a bit slow...what do you mean it's meant to be a tier 8 medium?!?!?!?
171 games so far. 46% win rate - up from a low of 40% induced by relentlessly being bottom tier.
It must have been ok pre-nerf (potentially excellent - you get little flashes of how it could have shined) but it's bloody awful now. It's the worst tank I've played in a long time.
That's the problem when you get slow-turreted slab-sided WW2(ish) tanks facing up against Korean War main battle tanks! Though it's been a problem since the Type59 was running amok so can't really complain...171 games so far. 46% win rate - up from a low of 40% induced by relentlessly being bottom tier.
It must have been ok pre-nerf (potentially excellent - you get little flashes of how it could have shined) but it's bloody awful now. It's the worst tank I've played in a long time.
Gamescom mission this weekend (Thu to Monday). 200k xp (must be in top 10) for a Dicker Max... Thats a lot of xp for an ok tank, but at least its an excuse to repost this - a remarkably fresh faced circon introducing the Vacuumer Max....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMMWYLHRPnk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMMWYLHRPnk
The VK45.02 Ausf B is proving to be an absolute gem. Surely, this is the king of sidescraping? The frontal armour is so strong, you can sidescrape in an open field if you wanted to, as many tanks will struggle with the front plates once angled, and the sides are practical autobounces. I've locked down key streets for entire games and been able to pull off 5000+ blocked damage just by letting enemies struggle with my autobounce sides. That rear turret makes getting steep side angles so easy, even premium rounds just bounce.
Occasionally I find a decent player who spots my crappy turret and shoots through the cheeks, but most players just try and vain to shoot the front machine gun or my sides. I do look forward to getting the final turret and 128mm gun which are shared with the E-75 I think, but I worry about my turret traverse dropping dramatically and the decrease in accuracy from .34 to .37, that is quite a drop, and I've really been enjoying using the .34 to punish those who to try to sidescrape against me.
A decent player who understands angling can troll in this thing, troll until the enemy weep salty tears. I never played it or encountered it when it had the sub-E-75 armour, when it really was a tank with no purpose, no real strengths and no real role on the field. Now it has armour, it means something, even against tier 10 TDs.
Occasionally I find a decent player who spots my crappy turret and shoots through the cheeks, but most players just try and vain to shoot the front machine gun or my sides. I do look forward to getting the final turret and 128mm gun which are shared with the E-75 I think, but I worry about my turret traverse dropping dramatically and the decrease in accuracy from .34 to .37, that is quite a drop, and I've really been enjoying using the .34 to punish those who to try to sidescrape against me.
A decent player who understands angling can troll in this thing, troll until the enemy weep salty tears. I never played it or encountered it when it had the sub-E-75 armour, when it really was a tank with no purpose, no real strengths and no real role on the field. Now it has armour, it means something, even against tier 10 TDs.
Edited by Mastodon2 on Monday 3rd August 22:31
It's got better frontal armour than the Maus & E100, which is ridiculous. The only real weak spots are the flat turret front & the cupola, but they're small and if the tank keeps rocking back and forth & waggling the turret, you've got no chance . I've only done it by pinning one head on with my ST-I, faking that I was aiming down, they switching up and nailing the cupola.
Wargaming admit they messed up when they over-buffed it, but they've shelved plans to replace it with the Mäuschen. For now at least.
Wargaming admit they messed up when they over-buffed it, but they've shelved plans to replace it with the Mäuschen. For now at least.
Yeah the problem with the Mauschen replacement was that it was crazy op against lower tiers, which basically couldn't hurt it at all, but against higher tiers (and some tier 9's) it was almost useless due to its relatively low pen gun and complete lack of manoeuvrability. As such it couldn't be balanced, so was shelved.
I don't see why, in the meantime, they don't just slightly nerf the B to be a little less crazy than it is. By all means leave it a tough thing to deal with frontally, but just now it's mental.
The MG port on the UFP also seems more vulnerable than most of the front and is easier to hit close up than the cupola, especially if in a lower tank. VKB drivers seem not to be aware either - I guess they are used to being immune frontally.
I don't see why, in the meantime, they don't just slightly nerf the B to be a little less crazy than it is. By all means leave it a tough thing to deal with frontally, but just now it's mental.
The MG port on the UFP also seems more vulnerable than most of the front and is easier to hit close up than the cupola, especially if in a lower tank. VKB drivers seem not to be aware either - I guess they are used to being immune frontally.
The VK has proved to be absolutely brutal tonight. However, it is completely outdone at times - like when you face anything faster than an ocean liner who decides to flank. As such, I don't think the tank is OP, even in it's current state. Tier 10 TDs struggle to pen the front plates, but much the same as the Maus, anyone trying to slug it out with one of these things from the front needs to re-evaluate their strategy. I have nicknamed mine "The Anchor", for it's ability to drop into position and moor a strategy around it, locking the map down and tanking shots while the team (hopefully) take advantage and work the distracted enemy. Alternatively, against fast tanks, flankers and people who shoot the cupola, it is an anchor, dragging the team down with nothing to offer to help them.
I actually wouldn't mind seeing some buffs to the Maus, lord knows it needs them. It it had the E-100 turret and access to the 150mm gun, it would start to make some sense - it could legitimately stand to get better gun handling stats than the E-100 too, as even with the armour and better guns, it's still so completely and massively hampered by it's horrendous mobility and terrible terrain resistances. I'll buy one but I know it won't be able to influence games like the VK45.02B can. Armour does need to mean something again, but a little gun wouldn't hurt either.
I actually wouldn't mind seeing some buffs to the Maus, lord knows it needs them. It it had the E-100 turret and access to the 150mm gun, it would start to make some sense - it could legitimately stand to get better gun handling stats than the E-100 too, as even with the armour and better guns, it's still so completely and massively hampered by it's horrendous mobility and terrible terrain resistances. I'll buy one but I know it won't be able to influence games like the VK45.02B can. Armour does need to mean something again, but a little gun wouldn't hurt either.
This is what the front armour profile of the VK4502B looks like in Tank Inspector:
The small rectangular driver's view slit is actually a weak point. It's about 170 mm thick, the same as the cupola.
Although it doesn't show it here, the machine gun port is about 200 mm. Not the bulge around the machine gun, the actual barrel and view port.
Both are going to be tricky to hit, even if it's stationary.
The small rectangular driver's view slit is actually a weak point. It's about 170 mm thick, the same as the cupola.
Although it doesn't show it here, the machine gun port is about 200 mm. Not the bulge around the machine gun, the actual barrel and view port.
Both are going to be tricky to hit, even if it's stationary.
I knew this one was going to be a loss within a minute of it starting.
http://wotreplays.com/site/2063359#stats
What they hell they were thinking I do now know. An example of collective stupidity if ever I saw one.
I was sorely tempted to drive straight into the lake, but I stuck with it and got a Naydin's Medal for nailing all their lights in the end. Should have had a Top Gun really, looking back.
http://wotreplays.com/site/2063359#stats
What they hell they were thinking I do now know. An example of collective stupidity if ever I saw one.
I was sorely tempted to drive straight into the lake, but I stuck with it and got a Naydin's Medal for nailing all their lights in the end. Should have had a Top Gun really, looking back.
ecsrobin said:
I don't know how many play WOT Blitz on iPad but the latest version is out with clans.
So I went to set up a PH clan and they want 1million credits to create it! Are they for real??? It takes months to get that sort of money so for me not to spend it on a tank is crazy.
WOT Blitz looks pretty awful, one of my friends plays it and I don't know why he doesn't just get the PC or Xbox version. They're free too, after all!So I went to set up a PH clan and they want 1million credits to create it! Are they for real??? It takes months to get that sort of money so for me not to spend it on a tank is crazy.
Also, a million silver isn't much, it's an evening in a tier 8 premium at the most.
I've now got the VK45.02B fully upgraded, I was worried that the decrease in accuracy, ROF and turret traverse would spoil the tank, but it hasn't hurt it, in fact the new gun is a massive improvement (though I still liked the .34 accuracy better than the .37!) and I'm really enjoying this tank. I love playing the defender, area-denial game, or using it offensively like a slow, unstoppable tide of steel. Once I've got the Maus, I'll probably transfer my VK crew over and train up a secondary crew to sit in the VK for fun. Then, I'll be down to about 4 million credits I expect, so I will crew train in my tier 8 premiums until I'm back to 15 million or so.
Is anyone else trying for the Dicker Max this weekend?
Along with the x5 XP, if you get 200000 XP overall before Monday morning (rules are just a top ten finish I think) you get a Dicker Max.
I was platooning for an hour last night with another member of my clan playing tier 8s and 9s. Expected it to be horrendous due to x5 but it was actually pretty good and I got 40000 XP in a hour.
Inevitably that means this weekend will be an utter disaster and I'll be lucky to get anything near that again!
Along with the x5 XP, if you get 200000 XP overall before Monday morning (rules are just a top ten finish I think) you get a Dicker Max.
I was platooning for an hour last night with another member of my clan playing tier 8s and 9s. Expected it to be horrendous due to x5 but it was actually pretty good and I got 40000 XP in a hour.
Inevitably that means this weekend will be an utter disaster and I'll be lucky to get anything near that again!
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