World of Tanks (Vol 2)
Discussion
Beati Dogu said:
They're both OK actually. You've got the slow, big gun line that leads to the Object 268 or the quick, smaller gun line that leads to the Object 263.
Not many people play the Object 263 line for some reason.
Still, ever since they over-nerfed the French high tier TD, nobody plays them at all.
You don't see the 263 because people don't like the grind and always go for the big gun line and end up with the 268. If you like your turretless TDs then the 263 is a very good tenk. Very strong frontally and even stronger with some angling - just about every std ammo shot will bounce unless they know exactly where to shoot you and most players don't as you rarely see 263s. It's a fairly fast tenk too for its size and the gun packs a very hard punch. It's just that grind.... Not many people play the Object 263 line for some reason.
Still, ever since they over-nerfed the French high tier TD, nobody plays them at all.
Edited by All that jazz on Tuesday 25th August 00:11
Yes, so rare I only killed a 263 for the first time yesterday to finally complete my "Expert USSR" thingy.
I checked & it's nearly 2 years since I nailed a 263 on the test server with a Deathstar.
Now I just need to kill a Deathstar II, the new French tier 10 medium & a few of the new French low tier tanks for the set.
I checked & it's nearly 2 years since I nailed a 263 on the test server with a Deathstar.
Now I just need to kill a Deathstar II, the new French tier 10 medium & a few of the new French low tier tanks for the set.
Some real clowns playing this game. Just played Lakeville in the SU85B, north spawn, so I rushed to the kemp bush spot on the cliff road in the bottom of D4. A20 comes flying up the road from the other team and promptly tries to ram me off the edge into the drink. I'd didn't work out for him and I killed him in 2 shots but he also killed me with some flanking fire help from those going into the town.
Anyway another SU85B player with 42k games and a nice shade of turquoise on XVM then starts shouting "noob team" in chat like they do so I followed his gameplay to learn how a unicum does it
. He spent the next 4 minutes camped in the C5 bush overlooking the lake doing feck all because since the view range nerf the SU can't see s
t even with bins. Eventually he moves into the town to help take down some enemy Churchies. He has one of them fully side on and about a tank's length away, fires 5 shots into it and every single one missed 
. The Churchy then finished killing the other tank and promptly 2-shotted the SU. How the juddering fk do you miss even ONE shot at point blank range square on into a Churchie, never mind FIVE !!?!? It's not like they need gold to pen is it - but he didn't even hit the tank anyway! Yet we're all the "noobs" . Seems legit.
Anyway another SU85B player with 42k games and a nice shade of turquoise on XVM then starts shouting "noob team" in chat like they do so I followed his gameplay to learn how a unicum does it
. He spent the next 4 minutes camped in the C5 bush overlooking the lake doing feck all because since the view range nerf the SU can't see st even with bins. Eventually he moves into the town to help take down some enemy Churchies. He has one of them fully side on and about a tank's length away, fires 5 shots into it and every single one missed . The Churchy then finished killing the other tank and promptly 2-shotted the SU. How the juddering fk do you miss even ONE shot at point blank range square on into a Churchie, never mind FIVE !!?!? It's not like they need gold to pen is it - but he didn't even hit the tank anyway! Yet we're all the "noobs" . Seems legit.God know how he missed, that tank is OP as hell with the right match up as long as you can keep your distance. I've been top for damage in tier 6 games with that thing. The tier 3 is even more OP.
I'm playing a lot of light tanks at the moment (T71 and AMX 12t) and am trying to find good spotting bushes on all the maps. There's a good one on Lakeville from the north spawn, right at the tip of the lake at C6. You can sit here with binocs and light up the the lake road and the area the south spawn like to sit as well.
I got over 3.5K spotting damage last night in a tier 9 game and it stopped their lake road push in its tracks. That was quite an exiting game in the end. It came down to my T71 vs an E-50 with a Top Gun. Fortunately I caught him on the lake road unable to move into cover and hit him 3 times to kill him.
I'm playing a lot of light tanks at the moment (T71 and AMX 12t) and am trying to find good spotting bushes on all the maps. There's a good one on Lakeville from the north spawn, right at the tip of the lake at C6. You can sit here with binocs and light up the the lake road and the area the south spawn like to sit as well.
I got over 3.5K spotting damage last night in a tier 9 game and it stopped their lake road push in its tracks. That was quite an exiting game in the end. It came down to my T71 vs an E-50 with a Top Gun. Fortunately I caught him on the lake road unable to move into cover and hit him 3 times to kill him.
True, there are worse tanks, but the M3 Lee is bloody awful, a good gun, poor gun handling, struggles to fight around right hand corners, poor all-round armour, huge turret tumour is practically an auto-pen for most tanks. No doubts about it, the M3 Lee stinks!
In a strange way I found the AMX 40 to be a better tank - with the top gun iirc it gets a decent HEAT round, so I just fired those exclusively, often at a considerable loss, until I was through it. There is one of the Russian tanks at tier 4, the T-80, that is just incomprehensibly bad, I can't think of a single good thing to say about it, it's best just avoided, especially when you can play through the T-28 - also poor but nowhere near terrible, to get to the T-34.
In a strange way I found the AMX 40 to be a better tank - with the top gun iirc it gets a decent HEAT round, so I just fired those exclusively, often at a considerable loss, until I was through it. There is one of the Russian tanks at tier 4, the T-80, that is just incomprehensibly bad, I can't think of a single good thing to say about it, it's best just avoided, especially when you can play through the T-28 - also poor but nowhere near terrible, to get to the T-34.
I finally got rid of my pz.38nA last night 
I'm starting to get a collection of tanks around tier 5 and grinding them all fairly equally so it'll be a while before I can move up. I'll probably be trying to buy all my tier 6 tanks at the same time so I can see an issue with gaining enough silver. I'm not using any gold so I don't have any premium tanks and not firing any gold ammo. Constantly bouncing shots is getting frustrating.
I'm starting to get a collection of tanks around tier 5 and grinding them all fairly equally so it'll be a while before I can move up. I'll probably be trying to buy all my tier 6 tanks at the same time so I can see an issue with gaining enough silver. I'm not using any gold so I don't have any premium tanks and not firing any gold ammo. Constantly bouncing shots is getting frustrating.
Jayyylo said:
I'm not using any gold so I don't have any premium tanks and not firing any gold ammo. Constantly bouncing shots is getting frustrating.
You're just going to have to learn where to shoot, then... like me! #cough#The lower glacis plate is usually a good place to start; then any machine gun or driver's viewports on the front; then the commander's cupola. Or anywhere around the back end
Or you could spend hours learning every tank's actual individual weak spots... but I think a game should be fun!In the meantime, if a tank's at a sharp angle to you, the shot's going to bounce whatever, so don't even bother!
defblade said:
You're just going to have to learn where to shoot, then... like me! #cough#
The lower glacis plate is usually a good place to start; then any machine gun or driver's viewports on the front; then the commander's cupola. Or anywhere around the back end Or you could spend hours learning every tank's actual individual weak spots... but I think a game should be fun!
In the meantime, if a tank's at a sharp angle to you, the shot's going to bounce whatever, so don't even bother!
Sometimes you just cant pen. Or the spots you can pen are so small you have to sit there aiming for too long getting torn apart. The lower glacis plate is usually a good place to start; then any machine gun or driver's viewports on the front; then the commander's cupola. Or anywhere around the back end
Or you could spend hours learning every tank's actual individual weak spots... but I think a game should be fun!In the meantime, if a tank's at a sharp angle to you, the shot's going to bounce whatever, so don't even bother!
If this is the case dont trade damage, shoot something else, go elsewhere and flank etc.
Rule 1 - dont yolo
Rule 2 - dont be stupid
Rul3 3 - dead guns dont fire
I swear, if I wasn't a skinhead I'd tear my fking hair out playing this game. Tier 9 game on South Coast, we spawn north, demolish the 9 line and take the flag. The enemy rush the 1 line and arrive at our cap. All we have to do is sit on the cap and we'll out-cap them, some idiot is shouting "We should attack, we outnumber them, we can take them" - I remind him they are only 10 cap points behind us and we can never, ever get back to base in 10 seconds, so he is like "Oh right". Meanwhile, this fking idiot cockney who has been shouting all through the match with his battle commander bullst suddenly rolls right off the cap while trying to look for the enemy arty - losing us a chunk of cap points. As he stumbles back on, we go neck and neck with the enemy and end in a draw. Everyone with half a braincell goes apest, while he gives it the "Sowwy guys, awight, awight it's just a game mate, it's just a game innit!". Yeah, I'm not here to fking lose, fking dhead.
The next game was a total disaster also, Sand River east spawn, 7 tanks go up the hill into the top right corner of the map, I defend the middle and two TDs camp at base. The 7 tanks in the north amazing lose the fight and die up there, I control the middle of the map and the base gets overrun. As the 4 enemy tanks that won the mountain fight loop round behind me I get killed as the 112 just can't fight two flank at once, the enemy don't even bother capping, having completely pincered our idiot team and they proceed to destroy everything left alive. I end with a high calibre, 1500 damage clear of anyone on the enemy team and 2000 clear of anyone on my team. I absolutely fking despair, I really do.
king hair out playing this game. Tier 9 game on South Coast, we spawn north, demolish the 9 line and take the flag. The enemy rush the 1 line and arrive at our cap. All we have to do is sit on the cap and we'll out-cap them, some idiot is shouting "We should attack, we outnumber them, we can take them" - I remind him they are only 10 cap points behind us and we can never, ever get back to base in 10 seconds, so he is like "Oh right". Meanwhile, this fking idiot cockney who has been shouting all through the match with his battle commander bullst suddenly rolls right off the cap while trying to look for the enemy arty - losing us a chunk of cap points. As he stumbles back on, we go neck and neck with the enemy and end in a draw. Everyone with half a braincell goes apest, while he gives it the "Sowwy guys, awight, awight it's just a game mate, it's just a game innit!". Yeah, I'm not here to fking lose, fking dhead.The next game was a total disaster also, Sand River east spawn, 7 tanks go up the hill into the top right corner of the map, I defend the middle and two TDs camp at base. The 7 tanks in the north amazing lose the fight and die up there, I control the middle of the map and the base gets overrun. As the 4 enemy tanks that won the mountain fight loop round behind me I get killed as the 112 just can't fight two flank at once, the enemy don't even bother capping, having completely pincered our idiot team and they proceed to destroy everything left alive. I end with a high calibre, 1500 damage clear of anyone on the enemy team and 2000 clear of anyone on my team. I absolutely f
king despair, I really do.RobDickinson said:
Trying to be less potato recently. Not getting isolated, trying to kill the right stuff at the right time rather than just pump out damage etc. Theres a whole list of small/meta things I am working on, seems to be working
defblade said:
Jayyylo said:
I'm not using any gold so I don't have any premium tanks and not firing any gold ammo. Constantly bouncing shots is getting frustrating.
You're just going to have to learn where to shoot, then... like me! #cough#The lower glacis plate is usually a good place to start; then any machine gun or driver's viewports on the front; then the commander's cupola. Or anywhere around the back end
Or you could spend hours learning every tank's actual individual weak spots... but I think a game should be fun!In the meantime, if a tank's at a sharp angle to you, the shot's going to bounce whatever, so don't even bother!
As mentioned earlier, the M3 Lee is best played in a similar style to a TD when possible. The gun really is it's only redeeming feature.
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