World of Tanks (Vol 2)

World of Tanks (Vol 2)

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All that jazz

7,632 posts

147 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Well, decided to get it before it disappears from the shop and bought the JgT 88 tier 8 premium. Fell out of love with my E25 as I seem to have lost the ability to drive and shoot at the same time for reasons unknown. frown

Other than the mobility the JgT 88 seems pretty good on paper.

... so expect another post in a few hours about me having uninstalled the game...... hehe

bstb3

4,087 posts

159 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Well on the plus side it's good at shooting on the move thumbup

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

166 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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All that jazz said:
Well, decided to get it before it disappears from the shop and bought the JgT 88 tier 8 premium. Fell out of love with my E25 as I seem to have lost the ability to drive and shoot at the same time for reasons unknown. frown

Other than the mobility the JgT 88 seems pretty good on paper.

... so expect another post in a few hours about me having uninstalled the game...... hehe
As you probably know, it's quite situational. Lower plate is butter, narrow gun traverse makes effective angling difficult. A total pain in the arse if you draw Himmelsdorf or Ensk. The supposed .31 accuracy is a bit troll too, I've got mine shooting like a machine gun with the equipment and crew on board, but it is still fully aimed between every shot, but even fully aimed it seems remarkably good at missing. However, on the right map, in the right spot it's absolutely lethal. It's got good gun depression, so hiding the lower plate isn't too hard on most maps, set it up on overwatch or pointing at choke points and just rattle the shots off. The DPM is very strong for a tier 8 premium, mine is up to about 2900 with a rammer and BIA. Ammo is cheap as chips, 252 silver a shot for the regular stuff and it carries loads on board, so go apest.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

147 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Rage quit imminent. 10 losses on the trott and counting. grumpy

Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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bstb3 said:
That's exactly it with Tanks. On the face of it it's pretty simple, especially in the lower tiers, but better performance becomes increasingly tied to how much knowledge you have about armour profiles, reload times and such. Of course you still need the awareness, tactical thinking and right environment to do well (good pc, lack of distractions etc), but that alone won't help in the high tiers if you just don't know how to hurt that T95.

Quickybaby last night for example gave a great tip on dealing with the new Tier 6 O-I frontally if you don't have a high pen gun - and it's knowledge like that that can make the difference between winning and getting stomped.

(Shoot them just inside the front track area, between the track and hull, the hull armour is only 40mm or so and vulnerable to HE splash or direct AP penetration. Just don't shoot through the track, as it acts as spaced).
I saw that too & filed it away.

Did you see that game Jingles showed, where a guy got 11 kills with the tier 6? It's the second game he shows here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vezEsf6p-hc

I'd have just capped him out if I was on the other team. If he'd managed to crawl back to defend it, I'd just run off. Even if it meant a draw, there's no way I'd let him win.

Someone should have at least applied cap pressure to give him something else to think about.

bstb3

4,087 posts

159 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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yeah, they should have capped. Probably though there was a "no cap kill all moment", and all brains went out the window. The thing about capping though is in the right situation its a useful tool to put pressure on opponents. You force them to have to come back and potentially expose weaker side / rear armour to your team. So far, from the few I have seen in battle and more so on streams the Tier 6 O-I looks like the pick of the bunch really. The ace level is stupid high, which sort of suggests that maybe it's a bit too strong but that's normal with a new line, just surprising it's not made that way at a higher tier. The tier 9 Circon is playing doesn't look that good to be fair.

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

166 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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I sort of wonder where they're going with the tier 10, it looks to be worse than a Maus in just about all fields, and the Maus has been powercreeped into irrelevance since way back when.

JustinF

6,795 posts

204 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Mastodon2 said:
I sort of wonder where they're going with the tier 10, it looks to be worse than a Maus in just about all fields, and the Maus has been powercreeped into irrelevance since way back when.
it has more DPM, much higher alpha, marginally more pen and better frontal armour.

JustinF

6,795 posts

204 months

Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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The tier 5 & 6 do seem to be the best of the bunch. The tier 7 is worse in every way than the T29 apparently.

The low tier ones are very derpable though. I've one-shot a few with my tier 4 derp Stug.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

147 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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All that jazz said:
Well, decided to get it before it disappears from the shop and bought the JgT 88 tier 8 premium. Fell out of love with my E25 as I seem to have lost the ability to drive and shoot at the same time for reasons unknown. frown

Other than the mobility the JgT 88 seems pretty good on paper.

... so expect another post in a few hours about me having uninstalled the game...... hehe
irked I have indeed just rage quit and uninstalled the game. 60 games played and only 14 wins. No kidding. How much BS do you take before you finally say enough is enough? JgT 88 is a decent tank fire power wise but everyone just fires gold at you and arty can 1 shot you. Gave up with that for tonight and went down to the lower tiers, Cruiser 3, FCM, SU, Hellcat but despite consistently doing decent damage and kills I just had tomato teams all night and mostly bottom tier yet again. Had 10 kills in FCM on Ruinberg, they had an SU85 left which hadn't been seen at all and it was me and a ChiHa left. Time was getting short so I said to ChiHa follow me and cap - he needed to be on cap with me to win. So I tell him this and what does he do? Goes all the way across the top road at a leisurely pace instead of following me along the middle road. Needless the say the SU was nowhere to be seen and the ChiHa just sat in the top corner and we drew. mad

Then an E25 game on Malinovka, south spawn, 3 arty a side. Rushed the bush on the edge of the centre field in the river bed to light up their entire base and did so. Arty then complaining and told me to go up to windmill on hill and spot. Ignored him then a few seconds later he 1 shots me "I SAID GO HILL, NOW YOU DIE!".

Just what is the fking point of this game? banghead

Edited by All that jazz on Tuesday 8th September 00:54

Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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I've never been very impressed with the JT 88 or the E25 for that matter. Both super easy to kill.

The Jagdpanther at tier 7 with the same gun was a bloody nightmare until you get the top one. I can only imagine how bad it would be at tier 8.


All that jazz

7,632 posts

147 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Beati Dogu said:
I've never been very impressed with the JT 88 or the E25 for that matter. Both super easy to kill.

The Jagdpanther at tier 7 with the same gun was a bloody nightmare until you get the top one. I can only imagine how bad it would be at tier 8.
Gun on JgT 88 is actually pretty decent if you aim it properly and take a bit of gold with you. The pin sharp accuracy can hit cupolas and LFPs no problem, however I do have my E25 crew in it which are on 4th round of training so that might have something to do with it. The problem is that of course it's very much a support tank and once you get spotted by the mediums and arty you're on life support. If there was still a good rotation of open maps with some foliage then it'd work better but getting Himmelsdorf, Stalingrad, Ensk and that other town one all the time just renders you useless. Didn't have El Halluf even once, Steppes only a couple of times, same for Karelia, Malinovka once, out of about 60 games. Vast majority were town maps and it's fair to say that I hate town maps where it's all peek-a-boo or in your face brawling taking bets on who has the most HP to take the hits.

Edited by All that jazz on Tuesday 8th September 03:11

wildoliver

8,788 posts

217 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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I'm getting frustrated with most of the games I'm ending up in recently, I know it's pot luck but there are too many players that don't seem to realise that to score well you need to win as a team and to win you need to work as a team.

Lights than run straight in to the middle of the battle field on a suicide run, leaving artillery hunting and spotting to mediums and tank destroyers, heavies that only go after the soft targets, no one keeping half an eye on the base and artillery in case a light slips up the flank, totally inappropriate camping by lights with light short range guns, a team of you pushing down one of the choke points of the map then you end up in a firefight with a couple of tanks and before you know your team mates have pulled out and left you in the st when you could easily have taken them as a team.


Fane

1,309 posts

201 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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t'was ever thus, i'm afraid.

Alan O'Hagan

441 posts

138 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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All that jazz said:
Ignored him then a few seconds later he 1 shots me "I SAID GO HILL, NOW YOU DIE!".

Just what is the fking point of this game? banghead
I've been asking myself the same question for some time now. I have not been having a lot of fun playing recently and therefore not playing a lot.

However what I have done is turned off all stats and I don't even care about or want to know my WR either and it seems to be working for me. I just take each game as it comes. It might end up good, it might end up bad. A "friendly" retard Arty may one shot me because "reasons" and I just think "meh, its only a silly computer game, lets get another tank". When you play with no fks given, it doesn't matter who trolls you because you can always just grab another tank, or go get a beer.

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

219 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Alan O'Hagan said:
I've been asking myself the same question for some time now. I have not been having a lot of fun playing recently and therefore not playing a lot.

However what I have done is turned off all stats and I don't even care about or want to know my WR either and it seems to be working for me. I just take each game as it comes. It might end up good, it might end up bad. A "friendly" retard Arty may one shot me because "reasons" and I just think "meh, its only a silly computer game, lets get another tank". When you play with no fks given, it doesn't matter who trolls you because you can always just grab another tank, or go get a beer.
Playing the game giving zero fks about winning or losing is the best way to play it; preferably whilst mildly intoxicated smile

All that jazz

7,632 posts

147 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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^ Yes that's fine if you have all the tanks in the game and have a barracks full of 4x trained crews for every tank at your disposal and 100m in coins sat in the bank, but that is highly unlikely and thus you need to play well and have everyone else on your team play well to ensure wins so that you can earn enough XP to make the grind through the stty tanks to the ones you want as painless as possible. If you don't give a fk about how you play or anyone else on your team then you'll be stuck playing the AMX38 forever (other tanks available) because the XP you earn from a loss can be counted on one hand.

Alan O'Hagan

441 posts

138 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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All that jazz said:
^ Yes that's fine if you have all the tanks in the game and have a barracks full of 4x trained crews for every tank at your disposal and 100m in coins sat in the bank, but that is highly unlikely and thus you need to play well and have everyone else on your team play well to ensure wins so that you can earn enough XP to make the grind through the stty tanks to the ones you want as painless as possible. If you don't give a fk about how you play or anyone else on your team then you'll be stuck playing the AMX38 forever (other tanks available) because the XP you earn from a loss can be counted on one hand.
Oh I do care about how I play. It is all about the win for me and I do my best to make sure I get the win. But what has changed is that I do not get upset at the losses anymore and I do not obsess over the stats anymore. I just move on. I have all stats removed but I have kept the useful mods such as the minimap ranges, zoom out mod and anything else that is useful for my gameplay and isn't perceived as illegal or questionable. I just don't get upset over losses and stats. Much better for my blood pressure.

Dr Banjo

656 posts

150 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Given the amount of potatoes/bots/idiots out there the only way you can swing the pendulum in your favour is by platooning.

Its not really an option for me so I just try to do my best and take it on the chin if I lose a game. Life is too short to get wound up by internet pixel tanks smash