World of Tanks (Vol 2)

[Beati Dogu]

Ha, nice shotgun. It's always very satisfying to do that in arty, but to win it is even better.

Greedy bd should have just capped.

[Mastodon2]

I'm sure this game trolls non-premium members. I know the xp is all worked out by a formula, but I've just had a match in my JagdPanther II, scoring 2500dmg against mainly tier 10s, more than half of that was scored against the British tier 10 apocalypse cannon TD, and yet I only netted 567 base xp. Ok, we lost the match, but that seems a little low given I was dishing it out to tier 10s.

Either way, I'm having so much funstration in my JPII that I'm putting the ISU-152 down to the daily double duties. I will spend a while training my JPII crew in the Dicker Max, and collecting doubles in the JPII until the crew are skilled up and the top gun is unlocked. The 105mm gun for the JP is impressive in some ways, it's quick firing and very accurate, but it simply lacks that alpha edge and in the end, means too much time exposed to danger to really dish it out to higher tier tanks.

[Beati Dogu]

I really liked the JPII and you really don't want to get shot by one with the 128mm top gun.

The newer tier 8 Borsig has the same gun, but with the advantage that it gets it as the stock one. On the JPII/Ferdinand it's a 63,000 XP grind.

The reload speed on the Borsig was recently nerfed, but it's still slightly better than the JPII and Ferdinand.

[jimmyjimjim]

Got a bit bored with the dreg T7's I'm grinding; Chi-ri (nothing cheery about it), SU-14-1(bloody awful, hope the 2nd gun improves it), T-34-1(extremely mediocre), T-43(mediocre but 8 times less ste than the A-44), so fired up the Tiger II that's been sat in the garage unused for several months.

I'd free XP'd the tracks, and had the radio and engine from other vehicles.

Not bad, soft, but not bad. Has potential. Only about halfway to the 2nd turret, which I think has to be the first major upgrade.

[Martin_Hx]

I decided to sort my XVM after not having in afor about 6 months, i should have left it off! Its hard knowing how bad your team is before you start

Anyway i had some pretty good games yesterday, i played well i "mostly" all of them, slightly higher % of winning games too.

Decided to save my free exp for something else and i will grind to the M48 Patton the long way as i enjoy driving it. Might save my free exp to get the T10 US TD after the T95, E110E3 or something?

[Beati Dogu]

Yeah, there's some horrible teams out there at the moment. Really clueless. No kidding, but my XVM colours some players so dark red that they're essentially black and I can only just read their name etc if it's against a light background.

When you're doing more damage than anyone in the sluggish (tier 3) FCM 36 PaK 40 in a tier 5 game, you know there's something wrong.


I ammo racked a Panzer 1c yesterday at close range with my Japanese tier 4 light. Wow that thing really cooked off. Gouts of flame and exploding ammo bouncing around. I was quite impressed by the animation. I'll have to stick it on Youtube.

[Asterix]

Talking of animation - recently I had a great shot on a light tank that was at full tilt crossing at 90 degrees to me. Boom! The turret exploded off the hull and flew for ages and cartwheeled off down the hill.

Looked brilliant! Never seen that happen before.

[Jayfish]

Hit 1000 games in my T29 tonight so decided to play that 1000th game with 100% APCR, cue a lemming train team on Murovanka with me covering the exposed flank, got drilled full of holes in side the first 2 minutes, firing only 2 rounds!

So change of plan, I'd already turned off auto resupply, so it was now no silver rounds until the gold ran dry...

El halluf up next, defeat but oh so glorious!

44 rounds remaining...

Live Oaks and a total tomato team, ah well lets see...

Another defeat but an hilarious game, one of their scouts died sideways on the crest of a hill, I spent the rest of the game pushing it around as a mobile shield bouncing shells off my turret until arty got involved, damage blocked by armour 1650
35 rounds in the gun...

round just starting...uh-oh! bottom of the pile...



haha FEAR the T29, top of the tree!



18 shells left...

Kharkov, not the best t29 map but I'll give it a go



9 shells..and just realised I left 3 HE in the basket, they might just come in handy.

Some stupid play on Siegfried netted me 722 damage for a soft death, 7 shells...

Waiting for the tank to recycle I'm looking at costs; when I set out I had 896k silver, 3 HE shells, 47 AP shells and 13 APCR. I've now got 6 APCR to replace at 4.800 and 47 AP at 1.000 , sitting on 915k, so I'm down 50k silver there or there abouts.

Entering a game with 7 shells, I need to go against my nature here and play cautious..

..yup 2nd to die 1150 of 1250 coming in a flash from tanks I never saw.

Sorry for this epic I imagined it'd be 4 games loads of high calibers and top guns but I'm seeing it through to the end.

5 shells...



used the HE and 3 shells for a win, even I think entering a game with 2 shells is taking the piss...



1 hit 1 miss and a glory run to the flag for spotting...

[Mastodon2]

Asterix said:

Talking of animation - recently I had a great shot on a light tank that was at full tilt crossing at 90 degrees to me. Boom! The turret exploded off the hull and flew for ages and cartwheeled off down the hill.

Looked brilliant! Never seen that happen before.

I love one-shotting lights as they drive past at full speed, watching the flaming hull skid to a stop

I've just had a few games with George again tonight, they put a "Random Encounter" event on where dealing 1500 cumulative damage enables 24 hours of Premium, so I used it to knock about 17,000xp off my grind towards the top gun on the JagPantherII. I'm really starting to get my feel back for these German TDs after driving the Russian gunbus TDs for a while. My last match with George was a tier 10 encounter match on Lakeville, sadly George's T28 didn't last, but I ended up scoring 3 kills, taking a tier 8, a tier 9 and a 10, as well as knocking about half of an Object 268's health off. These were all short range hit and run kills in the town, the kind of gameplay the ISU-152 just can't deliver. I felt so quick, decisive and well-placed that it was as if the hand of Will "Quickybaby" Frampton watched over me and guided my shells.

[MoleVision]

Jayfish said:

Of all the mods you can get, I don't consider many cheating... but weakspot skins..... poor form imo.


also.. it makes everything look silly

[Jayfish]

If WG allow it it's fair game, it's their game, their rules; I'm not going to disadvantage myself by imposing a code of conduct the developers don't subscribe to.

[PanzerCommander]

Jayfish said:

If WG allow it it's fair game, it's their game, their rules; I'm not going to disadvantage myself by imposing a code of conduct the developers don't subscribe to.

Thing is the devs don't like it, they have the same view of it being rather unsporting. But because it mods a file on the players computer not the server there is no way of stopping them.

[Beati Dogu]

3D skins of modules & crew positions are banned on the US server,

I was surprised to see a European unicum player on Twitch use the 2D one.

I saw another US streamer the other day using the mod that removes foliage. That's a no no too.

http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/339...

[Jayfish]

TBH it makes so little difference to the way I play, lower glacis shot, I'll take that if not commanders hatch, if not side shot is as technical as I get most games. The game is coded to allow add-ons and since WoW customisation is a must for MMO's, the scope of what is shown/checked server side or client side is largely up to the developer.
All my mods are from long existing threads on the official forums, if WG objected to any of them they'd have said so or asked the appropriate parties to desist.
My mod pack is the Aslains.

[Mastodon2]

Not only is it unsporting, it ruins the immersion of the game. For the same reason, I hate that fking Freedom tank, I'm not sure if they released it on the PC, it was a limited time premium tank, a Super Pershing painted in a stars and stripes livery. I know WOT isn't fully sim, or historically accurate, but it grates on me every time I see one.

[Dr Banjo]

Didnt BI Studios... err you know the Operation Flashpoint & Armed Assault (Dayz Zombie thing) developers manage addons much better than Wargaming. Through some sort of checksum wizardry they can tell if you have modified the client.

Surely would not be that hard for WG to do the same...

Edited by Dr Banjo on Monday 15th September 23:29

Edited by Dr Banjo on Monday 15th September 23:29

[Jayfish]

Mastodon2 said:

Not only is it unsporting, it ruins the immersion of the game. For the same reason, I hate that fking Freedom tank, I'm not sure if they released it on the PC, it was a limited time premium tank, a Super Pershing painted in a stars and stripes livery. I know WOT isn't fully sim, or historically accurate, but it grates on me every time I see one.

Sorry but in this regard you can't compare Xbox to PC play, you have a potted product, we have a more open platform with all sorts of modifications allowed/condoned there is a huge grey area that doesn't exist with console play in Pc gaming, not just in WoT but across all sorts of titles.

[Mastodon2]

Jayfish said:

Sorry but in this regard you can't compare Xbox to PC play, you have a potted product, we have a more open platform with all sorts of modifications allowed/condoned there is a huge grey area that doesn't exist with console play in Pc gaming, not just in WoT but across all sorts of titles.

Mods, add ons or not, it doesn't change the fact it's unsporting. If everyone was forced to use the same skins, it wouldn't be an issue (apart from looking fking st). The mods unbalance the game by giving an advantage to those using them, or acting selectively against players - look at all the unicums who are top targets for SPGs just because of the colour of their name. The fact that you've already had other PC players saying they think it's unsporting should give you some idea of what the other PC players think of players like you. For everyone who bothered to learn the weakspots and improve their play through their own ability, I suppose there's one lazy git who wants to take the easy option. Many top players have even condemned the simple XVM sytem, as it completely changes how you play. If you see a normally dangerous tank, but you know it's being piloted by a complete donkey, you'll pounce, knowing they won't have the skill to defend against you. Prior to that mod, and in the way the xbox is played, you don't know who you're up against or how good they are, instead of saying "lol that SU-122-44 is being played be a total noob, brb sealclubbing".

WG might not have banned it, but it's only because they don't care enough to stop it happening. Mods and hacks can happen in console games too, but as they're for unsporting toads, Microsoft and Sony are very good at spotting people using them and stopping them, because they're unfairly bending the odds of a game to their favour.

Nice attempt at trying justify it though, you sound like the kind of person who moved the piles of jumpers closer together when no one was looking during school football. "Hey, anyone else can do it, and if I can do it without getting caught, why shouldn't I?". Ironically, I bet you'd fking rage if someone somehow did make an aimbot and used it against you, you'd probably say it was unsporting.

[Jayfish]

Wow that escalated quickly, here I was being all reasonable and talking about it then someone got out the size 12's and tried to jump down my throat...but rather than throw insults around, I'll continue to be reasonable about it...

You just don't undestand the PC game space, it's a different world to console gaming, the demands for freedoms are much greater, games that don't provide these opportunities to mod do not get past beta.
Calling me a cheat is a complete lack of understanding of where Pc gaming has gone in the last 10 years.

Edited by Jayfish on Monday 15th September 23:52

[Dr Banjo]

I just think its a lack of foresight from the production team.

It should be a level playing field for all based upon a vanilla version of the game.

If people want to use mods then give them a mod server. No I don't mean scooters and parka's