World of Tanks (Vol 2)
Discussion
Well, my WN8 certainly tells an interesting story, tracking at 2700-2800 over the past month or so as I played thrugh the VK30.02M, Panther and Pershing, then dipping overnight once I got into the M46 Patton and staying at a measly 1400-1800, fluctuating up and down over the few days while I ground the M46 out. Now with the Patton fully upgraded my WN8 has immediately returned to 2800+. I managed a few 1st class games tonight which I'm sure would have been Ace Tankers if the On Track event for the M48 had not been running - the M46 is a fairly rare sight otherwise, so I don't think getting the Ace would be too hard. I'll have sold it and moved on by the time the event is over, never mind.
I may have to concede that in certainly situations, the Fatton isn't bad. It stinks royally on corridor maps, but does well on open maps where the spotting prowess and shoot-n-scoot tactics can be brought to bare. As long as you're not relying on the armour to bounce anything anyway...
There must be some true soft-stattery and black magic going on as the .40 accuracy gun feels like it hits more often than the .37 gun.
I may have to concede that in certainly situations, the Fatton isn't bad. It stinks royally on corridor maps, but does well on open maps where the spotting prowess and shoot-n-scoot tactics can be brought to bare. As long as you're not relying on the armour to bounce anything anyway...
There must be some true soft-stattery and black magic going on as the .40 accuracy gun feels like it hits more often than the .37 gun.
They are rare, but I had to do over 6K damage to get an Ace Tanker with the M46 Patton:
I can remember that game quite well, even now.
Both the M46 and the other tier 9 American medium, the T54E1 are good tanks. I didn't get the M48 Fatton, but it's a capable tank from what I've seen.
I can remember that game quite well, even now.
Both the M46 and the other tier 9 American medium, the T54E1 are good tanks. I didn't get the M48 Fatton, but it's a capable tank from what I've seen.
Mastodon2 said:
Well, my WN8 certainly tells an interesting story, tracking at 2700-2800 over the past month or so as I played thrugh the VK30.02M, Panther and Pershing, then dipping overnight once I got into the M46 Patton and staying at a measly 1400-1800, fluctuating up and down over the few days while I ground the M46 out. Now with the Patton fully upgraded my WN8 has immediately returned to 2800+. I managed a few 1st class games tonight which I'm sure would have been Ace Tankers if the On Track event for the M48 had not been running - the M46 is a fairly rare sight otherwise, so I don't think getting the Ace would be too hard. I'll have sold it and moved on by the time the event is over, never mind.
I may have to concede that in certainly situations, the Fatton isn't bad. It stinks royally on corridor maps, but does well on open maps where the spotting prowess and shoot-n-scoot tactics can be brought to bare. As long as you're not relying on the armour to bounce anything anyway...
There must be some true soft-stattery and black magic going on as the .40 accuracy gun feels like it hits more often than the .37 gun.
That is a very good WN8 indeed!I may have to concede that in certainly situations, the Fatton isn't bad. It stinks royally on corridor maps, but does well on open maps where the spotting prowess and shoot-n-scoot tactics can be brought to bare. As long as you're not relying on the armour to bounce anything anyway...
There must be some true soft-stattery and black magic going on as the .40 accuracy gun feels like it hits more often than the .37 gun.
I've had a good few days (for me) with, over the weekend, an average WN8 of around 1100.
However, last night was the night when the gods of Wargaming decided to slap me down and 14 games yielded an average WN8 of, I s
t you not, 170.I think the worst games were when I trundled round a corner in my O-I to be hit by Nashorn and arty at exactly the same time before a sodding JgPz4 finished off my 38 health with a shot to the side.
Also, I really, really need the top gun on the KV4. When you get into tier 10 matches with the KV3 gun it just makes you start blubbing.
I also need much more practice with it. I had one game where I hid my lower glacis and, I thought, had angled quite well but an IS3 in front of me put shot after shot into, I presume, my commanders hatch.
Hopefully last night will not be repeated for a loooong time.
BigMon said:
KV4...I also need much more practice with it. I had one game where I hid my lower glacis and, I thought, had angled quite well but an IS3 in front of me put shot after shot into, I presume, my commanders hatch.
KV4 turret isn't as strong as you might expect overall, regardless of the cupola / Mg port on the top of it. I've had a few games in mine where Tier 8 heavies have reliably penned my mantlet area time and time again, to the point where I now treat the whole turret as vulnerable. It's actually almost a relief when I see people going for the MG port on top, as it's harder to hit and not really any less armoured.There is a mod, paintball or something I think it's called (but it's certainly in Solo's mod pack), that highlights on your tank where you have bounced / penned in different coloured blobs. All it's doing is making the already visible holes / marks a bit more easily seen, but it could be a good learning tool if used when watching replays to figure out what's hurting you. I haven't tried it, but you never know it could be good. Pretty sure it's ok to use, as it's not giving any information that isn't already there in the vanilla version of the game.
this made me giggle
http://wotreplays.com/site/2182828#airfield-cirian...
full health 2150 IS-7 ammo rack at 12.00 by my 704
http://wotreplays.com/site/2182828#airfield-cirian...
full health 2150 IS-7 ammo rack at 12.00 by my 704
Edited by cirian75 on Wednesday 30th September 11:15
bstb3 said:
KV4 turret isn't as strong as you might expect overall, regardless of the cupola / Mg port on the top of it. I've had a few games in mine where Tier 8 heavies have reliably penned my mantlet area time and time again, to the point where I now treat the whole turret as vulnerable. It's actually almost a relief when I see people going for the MG port on top, as it's harder to hit and not really any less armoured.
There is a mod, paintball or something I think it's called (but it's certainly in Solo's mod pack), that highlights on your tank where you have bounced / penned in different coloured blobs. All it's doing is making the already visible holes / marks a bit more easily seen, but it could be a good learning tool if used when watching replays to figure out what's hurting you. I haven't tried it, but you never know it could be good. Pretty sure it's ok to use, as it's not giving any information that isn't already there in the vanilla version of the game.
That's a bit of a blow. I was hoping on reliably bouncing tier 8s!There is a mod, paintball or something I think it's called (but it's certainly in Solo's mod pack), that highlights on your tank where you have bounced / penned in different coloured blobs. All it's doing is making the already visible holes / marks a bit more easily seen, but it could be a good learning tool if used when watching replays to figure out what's hurting you. I haven't tried it, but you never know it could be good. Pretty sure it's ok to use, as it's not giving any information that isn't already there in the vanilla version of the game.
What do other peeps do then? Hide the lower glacis, angle and then waggle the turret between shots?
Yeah, I think the problem there is the Reliable word. It will bounce plenty of Tier 8s at a distance, and if they get a low pen roll quite often a lot up close frontally, apart from the lower plate. It's just the likes of the IS3, T34, Tiger 2 etc with 220+ pen guns that can be tricky close up. Most of the meds at tier 8 will struggle.
For sure though angling is key, keep the LFP hidden and 'wiggle' between shots gives you the best chance.
For sure though angling is key, keep the LFP hidden and 'wiggle' between shots gives you the best chance.
Nice one.
I was considering getting mine back, but I've just bought the tier 5 British Sherman III instead. I'll train a new crew up on this and eventually get the Sherman Firefly, before playing the newish TD line.
Anyone done the WZ-111 mission this time? I wasn't deliberately trying for it, but completed the US, Russian and German parts for 3 days of premium account.
I was considering getting mine back, but I've just bought the tier 5 British Sherman III instead. I'll train a new crew up on this and eventually get the Sherman Firefly, before playing the newish TD line.
Anyone done the WZ-111 mission this time? I wasn't deliberately trying for it, but completed the US, Russian and German parts for 3 days of premium account.
Finally today managed to complete my LT-15 (stug) mission. And what a mission it's been!
The mission is totally map & team dependant, however when the stars align you can have a brilliant match. A few times in this game I thought I was dead however we pulled through.
Hope you don't mind I've attached links to the download and replay, I'm over the moon with the result and on vbaddict the win8 was 5967.
Link to gallery of images: http://imgur.com/a/Xu8LE
WoT Replays: http://wotreplays.com/site/2184392#stats
Vbaddict: http://www.vbaddict.net/battlereport/the722-eu-601...
The mission is totally map & team dependant, however when the stars align you can have a brilliant match. A few times in this game I thought I was dead however we pulled through.
Hope you don't mind I've attached links to the download and replay, I'm over the moon with the result and on vbaddict the win8 was 5967.
Link to gallery of images: http://imgur.com/a/Xu8LE
WoT Replays: http://wotreplays.com/site/2184392#stats
Vbaddict: http://www.vbaddict.net/battlereport/the722-eu-601...
- you are right the LT-15 missions (in fact most of the spotting ones later on) are really map dependent, so its a huge relief when they get done. Yes, great scouting job there. I'm gonna nick that starting position if you don't mind. 
It's a nice place to spot enemy scouts trying to sneak up and use the bushes on the hillside.
Did you know you can force a reload by pressing the C key? You seemed to sit there with only 2 in the mag for a while.
I think the only thing I would have done differently was check out the corner of the map, as there's usually at least one SPG back there.
It's a nice place to spot enemy scouts trying to sneak up and use the bushes on the hillside.
Did you know you can force a reload by pressing the C key? You seemed to sit there with only 2 in the mag for a while.
I think the only thing I would have done differently was check out the corner of the map, as there's usually at least one SPG back there.
Yep, Only found out about the "c" reload recently however I guess in the heat of the moment I'd forgotten to reload (autoloaders are new to me).
Regarding the SPG in the left, well I had thought about it but as the enemy had captured the right hand side of the map fairly quickly I took a guess that the SPG would have relocated to what would be their safe area away from us if we had made the left hand push.
What surprised me was just how close I got to the waffle TD in the bushes without being spotted. When the AMX50-100 rushed me I genuinely thought that was game over but luckily his first shot missed and allowed me to dodge, duck, dive long enough for my team to deal with him.
Just had a brief look through the next set of missions, most are like min 2k damage + extras so higher tier equipment required I think.
Regarding the SPG in the left, well I had thought about it but as the enemy had captured the right hand side of the map fairly quickly I took a guess that the SPG would have relocated to what would be their safe area away from us if we had made the left hand push.
What surprised me was just how close I got to the waffle TD in the bushes without being spotted. When the AMX50-100 rushed me I genuinely thought that was game over but luckily his first shot missed and allowed me to dodge, duck, dive long enough for my team to deal with him.
Just had a brief look through the next set of missions, most are like min 2k damage + extras so higher tier equipment required I think.
Tier 8 Waffles are sneaky bds and they didn't used to lose it when they fired either. You can see why they're impossible to approach undetected if they're hiding in the woods on some maps. With the long gun they're perfectly capable of defending themselves too. You were practically right on him.
It was an AMX 50 120 that came at you. I'd have been bricking it if that had happened to me. Good job your arty wasn't an asshole and waited until you were clear. Most wouldn't.
The next lot of light tank missions aren't too bad actually. That game would have been enough for LT-15 on the T28 too.
ds and they didn't used to lose it when they fired either. You can see why they're impossible to approach undetected if they're hiding in the woods on some maps. With the long gun they're perfectly capable of defending themselves too. You were practically right on him.It was an AMX 50 120 that came at you. I'd have been bricking it if that had happened to me. Good job your arty wasn't an asshole and waited until you were clear. Most wouldn't.
The next lot of light tank missions aren't too bad actually. That game would have been enough for LT-15 on the T28 too.
bstb3 said:
Yeah, I think the problem there is the Reliable word. It will bounce plenty of Tier 8s at a distance, and if they get a low pen roll quite often a lot up close frontally, apart from the lower plate. It's just the likes of the IS3, T34, Tiger 2 etc with 220+ pen guns that can be tricky close up. Most of the meds at tier 8 will struggle.
For sure though angling is key, keep the LFP hidden and 'wiggle' between shots gives you the best chance.
With the top turret I am finding it pretty reliable if you are positioned correctly. Heavily angled with turret facing enemy or side scrape etc, have to hide that LFG.For sure though angling is key, keep the LFP hidden and 'wiggle' between shots gives you the best chance.
Was side scraping against a tiger2 and IS-7 one game this week, IS7 couldnt hurt me(likewise..) but I kept taking chunks out of the tiger2.
When out in the open or flanked you are in more trouble..
BigMon said:
If it's any consolation the Stug is a POS. I ended up selling mine.
I have the standard stug 3 and whilst it should be good it just doesnt seem to ever do well. Not sure if its view range (tho was ok with the su85) or camo , also has no armour few hp. I try play it like an e25 would, have a shot or two from cover, relocate etc but even so... looking forward to moving on from itGassing Station | Video Games | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff